Master Page objects

Bob, I can't find my previous thread, I don't even remember its name. So I am opening a new one, hope I'm not close to spamming by doing this. I had some problems with the objects on the master page, they didn't come out when exporting to PDF. Well, I somehow fixed it, I don't know exactly how, but I think there was another object in front of it, that became visible only on the PDF, covering my object. Maybe you can better guess what happened cause I surely can't.
As I've already opened a new topic, I'll use this opportunity to ask if there is any possibility to activate the objects placed on the master pages from aleatory pages of the document. I mean, if I want to bring forth a master page object on let's say page 5 and place it on top of something else, but leave the other master page objects where they were, can I do that? Or do I have to apply None on page 5 instead of Master Page, and copy the object from the master and place it on the page I'm working in.
Hope I didn't piffle to much and was clear enough.

all objects from MasterPages as always placed beneath of objects placed directly on regular Page from the same Layer
if you need to bring some object placed on MasterPage above object(s) on regular page - you need to click SHIFT+CTRL+LeftMouseButton on this object and override it on current page
robin
www.adobescripts.com

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Everytime I copy pages from one ID CS3 doc to another, it re-applies the master page objects!!

Please Help,
This is a topic I would really like to get to the bottom of.
We have InDesign CS3 templates for creating our reports.
These templates contain around 10 different master pages with grey placeholder image boxes and text boxes with dummy text.
When we copy pages from one ID document to another, all the master page objects that were originally assigned to the pages are re-applied!!
Resulting in lots of grey dummy boxes and text boxes re-appearing on top of the page items!!
It's so annoying because we always customise the pages once we've pulled down master pages to work on, so when we copy pages across to other documents we have to apply the blank master to be able to kick out all the master objects easily. Then we need to add the page numbers and footers back onto the blank master page.
My question is, is there a way to switch this off, so when I move or copy pages from one document to another, nothing happens relating to master page objects, the pages simply just copy across as they are?
Please help! If not I may have to ask an external developer to write a script to fix this, it drives 900 of us crazy!
thanks in advance for any help.
Or am I just being ridiculous and not actually realising you can switch this off, doh!
G

Just a bit of further clarification on this issue (very few people really understand what's going on with master pages and overridden master page items):
When you override a master page item, the object is moved to a local page, but a connection is maintained with the original master page item. This a) allows for the override to be removed (and return the object to its original state). This also, b) allows for changes made to the original master page item (other than the changes made to the local item from the point that it was overridden) to effect the local item as well.
When the connection to the master page item cannot be maintained, the local item gets disconnected totally from the master page, and becomes a regular, run-of-the-mill page item.
In light of this, there's three ways you can end up with duplicate master items:
Reapplying a master page (or applying a new one). When you reapply a master, all overridden master page items get detached from the master, and the original mster page item appears again in its original state. Most of the time this produces unwanted duplication of objects. To fix up your page, you have two options: a) Delete the master page item, and b) copying the contents of the original to the new master page item. The disadvantage of "a" is that you end up with an item which is totally detached from the master, and changing the item on the master will have no effect on the local item. The disadavantage of "b" is that it's a lot of work...
Moving a page to a different document. When you move a page to a different document which has the same master as the one originally applied, the master in the new doc is applied, and the effects are identical to reapplying a master page (i.e. overridden objects are detached). If the applied master (i.e. a master with the same name) does not exist in the new doc, the master is transferred over to the new doc along with the page, and the connections to the master page are preserved (well, re-created actually...). The workarounds in case #1 apply here as well.
When page sides change in a document, the objects on the facing page appears.
What happens here is a bit confusing, but here's an approximate explanation:
When you apply a master to a page or spread in InDesign, what you are actually doing is applying an entire spread to an individual page. You can thing of a master spread as an overlay (or more precisely: underlay) on the page with a window cut out to the exact page dimensions.
When the page side changes that "window cut-out" shifts to show the master spread items which correspond to the position within the spread of your current page (i.e. recto or verso). All objects which exist outside the window shift out of view (but still exist!).
When an object is overridden, the position of the object is defined by its location on the local page, NOT its position on the master spread. When the page then changes sides, the object remains where it was on the page (even though the object it's connected to on the master spread moves out of the window of view). A corresponding object on the facing page of the master (if it exists) will then show in addition to the overridden one.
Now remember: contrary to the first two cases, both objects are based on master ones: one visible one and one invisible one.
Dealing with this third case requires much more care than the first two.
The obvious way to deal with this would be similar to the first two, but if you remove the local object and transfer the content to the new maste object, the invisible master object on the non-visible page was actually removed, so when the page sides change again, the object will now be connected to the now-invisible master page item, and the correct master page item will be gone!
The "correct" way to deal with this would be to transfer the content to the new master page item and remove overrides (not delete!) on the local item (which will make it disappear, because it moves back to the invisible page). Of course, when page sides change again, it becomes necessary to repeat the entire process.
If the local object gets deleted, then your master spread is missing objects with no visible indicator of the fact. This can lead to confusion when the document might be edited at some later point in time.
I believe that this complicated and un-intuitive behavior of master pages is part of the reason people tend to avoid using master page items. Documents tend to get messed up in really odd ways... It's a real shame, because extensive use of master page items has a lot of potential for streamlining workflows and saving an awful lot of time. This behavior really puts a damper on really using master pages as templates.
Getting master page items to work the way they "should" was a big part of what I was trying to accomplish with AutoFlow Pro... When the master page items are defined as such (i.e. given a unique name), AutoFlow Pro solves all three of the above issues by keeping overridden master page items connected to the master page items on the currently applied master (and when a new master is applied as well!).
(When I have a bit of spare time, I think I'll write this up on my blog with some visuals to make this easier to grasp...)
Harbs

InDesign Master Pages; complication with re-appearing master page objects

Hi everybody!
A short intro to understand the problem: I'm working on a commemorative journal for a dinner that people are submitting text based ads to little by little. The types of ads are divided into different chapters so I made different master page spreads for each section. The ads need to be in alphabetical order so as they come in, I add new pages into the layout and place the ad text into the text box.
Here is the basic structure of my master spreads: there is a text box on each side of the spread that contains an anchored object. I'm using that object as a separator to separate between the ad text and the name of the person who placed the ad. When I insert the ad text, I'm releasing the text box master object and I'm inserting and formatting the text.
Here's the problem: when I add pages to the layout and the pages already in my layout shuffle, in some instances the text box with the anchored object re-appears behind what I've already done through the text (the anchored object is a dotted line so there ends up being a dotted line through the middle of the text). For example, if I have master page A applied to page 3 (right side of spread), when I add a page before 3 (making page 3 into page 4 and a left side of spread), the master object text box containing the anchored object appears behind the one that was the original master object that I released and inserted text into.
I did some experimenting and I found that this only happens when I add an odd number of pages. When I add an even number of pages, the additional master page object doesn’t appear. Also, if I add one page after adding a page, the extra master object disappears. I'm assuming that this is because when I add an odd amount of pages the spread with my text switches sides and the master object from the other side of the spread is appearing. Also, if I manually remove the new master object that appears, a new master object does not appear if I shuffle it again.
Solutions I came up with were either just manually going through the document at the end of the project and removing the extra master objects or applying a white background to the text box so that it would the block the new master object that appears. However, I think there has to be a better solution would be more automatic, leaving less room for human error and being less sloppy that giving white backgrounds to all the text boxes.
In short, I think the problem is that when my pages are being switched to the opposite side of the spread it is adding the master objects of the side of the spread it switched to. So would there be a way to prevent that from happening?
Looking forward to what you guys think.

In short, I think the problem is that when my pages are being switched to the opposite side of the spread it is adding the master objects of the side of the spread it switched to. So would there be a way to prevent that from happening?
That is correct behavior. You could stop using master page objects. Instead, make your anchored frames into a snippet or a library object so that you can drag and drop the thing onto a fresh page for that next arriving ad. I would make the master pages show only grid lines and margin and column guides.
If in CS6, and you are on the master pages, and you designate the selected frame as Primary Text frame, then that might not happen (if I understand your description, which I sorta don't)

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I have a book file that is giving me a pretty hard time. There are several master page spreads that do not show as spreads in the book file. The left page from one set of masters with the right page from another set. There is a grouped row of circles that has drop shadow applied that appears on several master spreads. This is built as two groups that meet in the gutter to give the appearance of a row all the way across the spread. When the group is on the gutter between the two pages of the master spread, The object will show up on the both pages of the book spread, on top of the data from the left page master. If we shut off the drop shadow, no problem. If we move the group 0p5 away from the gutter no problem. The problem is that in the end we want this element to have a drop shadow and to run into the gutter.
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Hi,
Yes, I know this question has been asked a million times. But, it's just not working for me. I've got a simple green box at the bottom right of my master page. I've made it into a button. I've allowed the master page to overwrite. But, on my document pages I simply cannot select this object. I've made the object into a button, per the master page, and, I need to have it link from each page back to a previous page in the document. Yes, I've tried Cmd + Shift, then click on the object, but, that doesn't work.
My button shares space with a page text box. Those are the only objects on the page, though. If I move the text box up, then yes, I can select the button. But, that's cheating.
Thanks a lot for any help.

What do you mean shares space with? Is it on top of the button?
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P Spier wrote:
You lost me here, Ken. Are you saying to override all master items?
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Buy a book about InDesign and start learning these basic principles!

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If don't change the default config, We are unble to download master page.
It's better to create your own (perhaps based on the default.master) and use that master page.
also,make sure there's no a permission issue on the website.
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Guangchao chen
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on a content page I can access objects from the assigned master page using the Ctrl+Shift+LeftClick combination. By doing so I detach many attributes of this object from the master page specifications. How to reset an object and attach it back to the source object of the master page?
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