Material Determination issue

Hello SD experts,
There is an issue with the material determination table.We want that the entered material should get replaced with the substitution material if the substitution material has stock. This works fine in our case.But when the substitution material is out of stock the sytem should point to the material entered (original material) and confirm the stock from it.This is not happening as the system is pointing towards the substitution material only and confirming the stock.
Material entered: A
Substitution material : B
B is out of stock so A should be there in the sales order as its has got stock. Buts system is showing B and confirming stock from A.
Please help. Thanks in advance.

Hi Prashant, please try this and let me know if it works.
in your material determination record, enter
substitution material 1: B
substitution material 2: A
enter substitution reason 4 or 6

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Dear Friends,
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The reason for substitution here is non availability of stock of ordered material, because of which system seeks the stock of substitute material.
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>
SAPCON SD wrote:
> Hi SAP Gurus
>
> We are using material determination with product selection. The process is that customer will send in one product in a sales order. At the time of doing ATP we have to look for about three or four possible alternatives and confirm that alternative which has the highest stock level depending on the ATP situation. We have configured material determination with SAP standard substitution reason0006 to take care of this. The problem with this is that this creates two line items in sales order as the item substituted is shown as a sub-item of the material entered. We do not want to have two line items in a sales order for this. Is there a way we can do material determination with product selection (Based on ATP) and have the item substituted replace the item entered in a sales order? In other words we do not want to see two line items in a sales order. The substitute item should simply replace the original item and the material entered could be stored in field VBAP-MATWA. I have gone through all the standard SAP documentation which clearly states that in order to material determination based on ATP we have to use outcome A or B both of which create a sub-item.
>
> I was wondering if there is any workaround or if there is any user exit in which we can replace the original item with the substituted item?? Any help or any direction will be highly appreciated.
>
> Another question is if we were to use APO for doing global/Rule based ATP is it possible to get rid of the double line items. We have also tried to use rule based ATP in APO and use product/location substitution in our sandbox system to see if we can get back only one line item. But even in that case we do get a sub item. Any help on this issue will be greatly appreciated. You can also send me an e-mail at [email protected].
>
> Thanks
>
> SDSAPCON
In the substitution reasons ...mark the OUTCOME as blank for this particular 0006. I am not sure for ATP
rgds
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Edited by: Sai on Mar 27, 2008 10:00 PM

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IssueNo:1
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1. we have created a reason for substiution in th ovrq as below
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Entry
Warn
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Strategy
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Category
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example for this is :
****Materialdetermination master data:
Material entered :INT1_AUTOLITE
Alternate materials:
INT1_AUTOLITE
INT1_FRAM
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INT1_AUTOLITE :5000
INT1_FRAM     :5000
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IssueNo2:
we also find a strange thing.
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why is this so ???
can anyone give a good response.
Reg
satheeshkumar

Hi,
IssueNo:1
we are working with the material determination and the ATP .
1. we have created a reason for substiution in th ovrq as below
Reasn             ZATP
Description     Autom.mat.selection
Entry
Warn
AvCh dep.     X
Strategy
Outcome             B
Category
2.we have the material determination as below
Material entered :INT1_AUTOLITE
Alternate materials:
INT1_AUTOLITE
INT1_FRAM
In this we have the INT1_FRAM material marked for the mrp.
3.The above are the config and the master data ,
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Description     Autom.mat.selection
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Warn
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Category
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Alternate materials:
INT1_AUTOLITE
INT1_FRAM
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INT1_AUTOLITE :5000
INT1_FRAM     :5000
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why is this so ???
can anyone give a good response.
Reg
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Regards,
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