Material Determination - VB11 / VB12 / VB13

Dear Friends,
We are maintaining material determination master record in VB11.
Both in the transaction (display mode) as well in the tables we are getting the Valid From & Valid To date, but we are not able to find out the date when transaction was maintained.
Please suggest where this can be found out.
Regards,
Dhananjay

Dear Sai,
The validity periods are already available to me as mentioned in my earlier message.
What I want is the date on which the record was created.
Please suggest.
Regards,
Dhananjay

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Material Determination VB11

Dear Friends,
We are maintaining material determination thru VB11.
I just wanted to know where can we find the user name who maintained the master record thru VB11.
Regards,
Dhananjay

Dear Raja,
Thanks for your reply.
Yes even i tried quiet many tables but couldnt find user name anywhere.
Regards,
Dhananjay
Edited by: Dhananjay. on May 14, 2009 4:12 PM

Tracking of Changes in Material Determination type or Material Substitution

Hi Gurus,
Can anybody suggest how to keep track of the changes made in VB11/VB12/VB13 which is for Material Determination type Maintenance?
Is there any TCODE or tables for tracking the above changes??
Thanks in advance
VIJAYB.

material determination is based on custom condition tables, that are created like one creates tables for pricing or message determination.
Because of this, SAP cannot know that it has to track changes.
You have to activate change records yourself.
Go SE11, enter the table name of your substitution, then click the button for technical settings. in the lower part of the screen you will see a box that need to be flagged if you want log changes.

How to Differentiate between Parent & child item of material determination

Hi Experts
I have a list of material & the Business requirement is to found that whether a material is a Parent material , Child material or Both ( a parent to other children and a child to another parent).
I tried using table KONDD & KONDDP but I was not able to differeniate between Parent & Child item.
I even cant use item category to diferentaite the two as by item categairy i can only find that it is a Prent material but cant find whether this material is a Child material or not.
Is there any table in which i can enter the Parent material & the output would be child material or any other table which contain both parent & child material.
Note : In Material determination ( VB11) , the material which is entered is Parent material & the material with which it would be replaced is Child material.
Kindly Guide.
Thanks in Advance

Hi
The wording of Parent and Child sounds like using a BOM material. In material determination...these two items can be called as Material entered and material determined or Main Item and Sub Item.
In the sales order overview screen...at line item level check the field 'HLvItem' (Higher Level Item). It will show the POSNR of the main item to which this item is linked. Since this can also happen in the case of free goods and BOM...you have make another check for these items with the item category.
If the substitue material is not determined as a sub item... you can check the material number in the field 'Material Entered' in the sales tab of the item and compare the material number with that exists in the VBAP-MATNR. If both are different, then this material can be considered as a determined material.
Thanks,
Ravi

How to configure material determination???

hi,
v r working on automatic material determination for christmas..so please guide me how i can proceed???
specifically i need info on material exclusion and inclusion..
thanks a lot
h shah

Hi Shah,
MATERIAL DETERMINATION:
A method to determine the material to be used in the sales order. Material determination uses the condition technique to swap one material for another when certain conditions apply. It is triggered by the material entered in the line item of the sales order.
Maintain prerequisites for materialMaterial DeterminationSD- IMG determination Maintain field catalog, create condition table, Maintain access sequences, define condition types, and maintain material determination procedure. Lastly create your condition records with valid dates and substitution reasons.
- Creating a condition record: Logistics, SD, Master data, Products, Material determination, Create [VB11].
Material Determination: - Substituting one product with other product is called material determination.
Maintaining the records for Material Determination: -
SPRO
Logistics
Sales and Distribution
Master Data
Products
Material Determination
VB11 Create.
Enter the determination type [A001] (Material Entered).
Material Entered: - Here enter the original material which has to be substituted.
Material: - Enter the material with which we want to substitute the main material.
Reason for Substitution: - specifies the reason why the system automatically carried out material substitution.
To enter multiple materials as substitution select the icon alternative materials.
This concept is based on condition technique.
SPRO
Sales and Distribution
Basic Functions
Material Determination
Maintain prerequisites for material determination.
Create condition tables [OV16]
Maintain access sequences
Define condition types
Maintain procedure
SPRO
Sales and Distribution
Basic Functions
Material Determination
Assign procedures to sales document types [OV14]
Defining the reason for substitution: -
SPRO
Sales and Distribution
Basic Functions
Material Determination
Define substitution reasons [OVRQ]
Go to new entries and define
Substitution reason: - Specify the substitution reason [0001]
Description: - Advertising campaign
Entry: - If we check this field the system prints the name or number of the original material on the corresponding output.
Warning: - If we check this field the system displays a warning message before substituting the material.
Strategy: - Controls whether the product selection should occur automatically in the background or whether the alternative materials should be offered for a selection in dialog box.
Out come: - Controls whether the out come of product selection should replace the original entry or whether it should be recorded as a sub item of the original entry.
Please Reward If Really Helpful,
Thanks and Regards,
Sateesh.Kandula

Material Determination Tables

Dear Friends,
Pease tell me all the tables where material determination (VB11) data is stored.
Regards,
Dhananjay

Dear Dhananjay,
refer link:
Material Determination VB11 - Entries Overwritten
Best Regards,
Amit.
Note: In his Quesion, Elly has mentioned various Tables' name.

Account ,partner,material determination explain?

hi
can u explain me in brief what is mean by account determination,partner determination and material determination ???/

Hi Candhrakanth,
MATERIAL DETERMINATION:-
A method to determine the material to be used in the sales order. Material determination uses the condition technique to swap one material for another when certain conditions apply. It is triggered by the material entered in the line item of the sales order.
Maintain prerequisites for materialMaterial DeterminationSD- IMG determination Maintain field catalog, create condition table, Maintain access sequences, define condition types, and maintain material determination procedure. Lastly create your condition records with valid dates and substitution reasons.
- Creating a condition record: Logistics, SD, Master data, Products, Material determination, Create [VB11].
Material Determination: - Substituting one product with other product is called material determination.
Maintaining the records for Material Determination: -
SPRO
Logistics
Sales and Distribution
Master Data
Products
Material Determination
VB11 Create.
Enter the determination type [A001] (Material Entered).
Material Entered: - Here enter the original material which has to be substituted.
Material: - Enter the material with which we want to substitute the main material.
Reason for Substitution: - specifies the reason why the system automatically carried out material substitution.
To enter multiple materials as substitution select the icon alternative materials.
This concept is based on condition technique.
SPRO
Sales and Distribution
Basic Functions
Material Determination
Maintain prerequisites for material determination.
Create condition tables [OV16]
Maintain access sequences
Define condition types
Maintain procedure
SPRO
Sales and Distribution
Basic Functions
Material Determination
Assign procedures to sales document types [OV14]
Defining the reason for substitution: -
SPRO
Sales and Distribution
Basic Functions
Material Determination
Define substitution reasons [OVRQ]
Go to new entries and define
Substitution reason: - Specify the substitution reason [0001]
Description: - Advertising campaign
Entry: - If we check this field the system prints the name or number of the original material on the corresponding output.
Warning: - If we check this field the system displays a warning message before substituting the material.
Strategy: - Controls whether the product selection should occur automatically in the background or whether the alternative materials should be offered for a selection in dialog box.
Out come: - Controls whether the out come of product selection should replace the original entry or whether it should be recorded as a sub item of the original entry.
Please Reward If Really Helpful,
Thanks and Regards,
Sateesh.Kandula

To create/change material determination records using VB11/VB12 transaction

To create/change material determination records using VB11/VB12 transactions, do you know any relevant FM's or BAPI's for these transactions instead BDC?
Thanks in advance.
regards,
vamshi

Thanks for the response. I wrote the BDC.
Have some problems in BDC for VB12.Uploading ten thousand records at a time.
Following problems exist.
Before updating i am reading existing data.
In selection condition, if i give ten thousand records
i am getting dump.
(ii) In the change material determination third screen
to delimit the date ( Valid on and Valid to) it does for header not at item level. No option to do at item level.
thanks,
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VB11 Material Determination - Message Notification

Hi
Currently the substitution material determination is in place (VB11 Material Determination).
However any possiblity to notify the user as the material is changed duing the material determination takes place.
Where the setting should be done ?
Regards
RG

Hi Raj,
In standard its not possible
if you want like that create your own reason like 0007 put only check mark in warning box
put blank for all coloums strategy,out come,substitute category
save it and assign this reason to condtion type A001 in VB11 or VB12 what ever you created.
here once the user create sales order and enter a material he doesn't have chance to select the substitute product and it will give warning message like " Material xxxxx found on the basis of entry xxxx(reason)"
once press the enter it will automatically replace the original material with substituted material.
check and revert.
Regards,
Krishna.

VB11 - CREATE MATERIAL DETERMINATION. need a BAPI for this

i have to develop an inbound interface program to create VB11 - CREATE MATERIAL DETERMINATION.
Can any one suggest me if there is any BAPI for doing this insted of going to BDC program .
Regards
Raadha

I don't think there will be any BAPI to do the update as material determination is itself dynamic depending upon which determination type you chose from - the key field combination changes accordingly. Just like updating pricing doesn't have any general purpose BAPI.
I think BDC is the only way out here

Any IDoc/BAPI for Loading Material Determination Condition records - VB11??

Hi All,
I need to load the material determination condition records which can be done through the transaction VB11. I dont want to do load the records through BDC.
So, I am looking for any IDoc or BAPI which can do this job.
Any help in this regard is highly appreciated.
Points will be awarded for all useful replies.
Thanks in advance,
Surendra K

hi surendra,
i have a exact same task to load material determination to SCM
"load the material determination condition records which can be done through the transaction VB11. I dont want to do load the records through BDC, i am looking for any IDoc or BAPI which can do this job"
thank you
sridhar K

VB11 Material Determination - How to substitute only when ATP fails?

I created a material determination rule with VB11 (A is replaced by B).
However, my intention was to has A replaced by B only when ATP fails in SO....
Now I have A replaced every time....
I tried to create two lines: A=>A, A=>B as alternative, but A is always replaced by A now...
Did I miss anything?
Thank you!

Its possible to do this. Please do as below.
Ex: xyz is the main item and abc is the substitution item which needs to be activated only when xyz qty is less)
1. Under VB11 maintain the following records:
For Reason : Z003 (ATP Check)
Material Entered is XYZ and Substitution Materials are XYZ and ABC.
Basically Material XYZ substitutes XYZ and if the qty is less it substitutes ABC.
2. Substitute Reason Settings are as under (SPRO):
Reasn Z003
Description Availability check
Entry
Warn
AvCh dep. X
Strategy
Outcome B
Category
This will work wonderfully...
Hope this helps...

EDI: Extending VB12 - Material determination.

Hi everybody.
Sorry if I'm posting a wrong place - but has been away from SCN for a while....
I'm working with EDI and we wants to extend Material determination for inbound Orders so that Partner Profile is part of the selecttion.
so instead non "only" SOrg/DistCh/Mat is the key combination but also eg Partner Type KU ( from T-code WE20)
I have searched but not found anything usefull.
Any hint will be rewarded :-)
Best regards
Lars Henrik Andersen

Solved..

Free goods determination from material determination.

Hi experts,
I have one issue for you,
My scenario is:
we issue freee goods 1:1. i configured free goods setting and maintained VBN1 (condition records for free goods). i even maintained material determination configuration settings and maintained VB11 (condition records for material determination). The problem is system proposing free goods automatically when i process sales order without material determination list, if i go through material determination list system not determining free goods nor giving any message. what is the system behaviour if we go through material sustitution list to free goods. the main item (for free goods)will be existed in the substitutiion list. plez help. any suggestion will be highly appreciated.
thanks,
sada

Hi
Please consider the two issues separately. Don't club both the issues. If you have records for both material determination and free goods.,
1. Whether the material substitution is happening perfectly (as per the records created in VB11) or not.
Next.,
2. check whether the free goods are determined for the material in the sales order line item (as per the records created in VBN1) or not.
Please check and post the result.
Sometimes the freegoods will be determined in the sales order but will not create any second line item(as sub item) because while creating the records in VBN1 if you select the option 'Free goods Inclusive without line item generation. In this case NRAB condition type will be determined instead of R100.
So, also check the conditions tab and see whether the entire quantity is priced or not.
Thanks,
Ravi

Material Determination based on Availability

Hi SD gurus,
I have a client requirement as below:
We create order via BAPI. Data comes from ext call center system.
Whenever Matnr A is entered in Sales order & it is not available then Matnr B should come.
1: I know that we can handle this in Material Determination. I did req. config in IMG
2: I have created VB11 stating that MATNR A should be substituted by Matnr B. I have ticked the MRP ind in VB11 as well.
Now the question is:
When I enter MATNR A in sales order, & assuming its not available then, MATNR B will come in Sales order.
In my case it is happening. But whenever this happens what should be the item category of the MATNR A & MATNR B?
Please let me understand how will standard SAP behave.
I thought the item A should appear as Text item & probably item B should become relevant for delivery & pricing.
But currently I am getting item category TAX for item A & TAPS for item B in sand box. Is that correct?
What should be the standard item categories in this case?
regards

Hi,
The system runs several checks on on each possible substitute, for example to determine if the customer would accept the product based on the product attributes and current stock availability.The system checks substitute materials until the order quantity is satisfied, or until there are no more possible substitutes.
When a valid alternative is found, the system creates a sub-item for it, using the item category that you have defined for the main material in Customizing.
If there is not enough inventory for the alternatives to cover a required quantity, the system confirms only the available amount and ignores the rest. The main item contains information on the confirmed quantity of the sub-item, but is not relevant for planning. For this reason, the material shortage is not passed on to planning.
If you set the material requirements planning indicator for one of the alternatives, however, the system creates an additional sub-item for this material, assigning it a confirmed quantity equal to zero, and a required quantity equal to the open quantity. Since this material is placed as the final alternative in the substitution, it captures any remaining quantities. The system takes this item into account and passes the material shortage on to planning.
Based on your settings Customizing, the system performs pricing at the main or sub-item level.
There are two separate item categories in sales documents for product selection. The item category TAX contains specifications for the main item (original product). The other, TAPS, contains specifications for the sub-items (substitute product).
Review the item category configurations in the standard system. If these do not meet your requirements, perform the activities in the following topics to modify the item category configuration, or create your own categories. Note that if your product selection procedure requires that pricing be done at the main item instead of the sub-item, you will have to create new item categories.
The following examples detail how pricing is carried out at the main item level and sub-item level for product selection.
Pricing at the Main Item
the price for the order is determined based on the price condition records for the main item only. You have deactivated pricing for the sub-item category, so the system does not determine a price for it. Since both the main item and the sub-item categories are relevant for billing, the prices (even if there is no price) are copied to the invoice and billed accordingly.
Pricing at the Sub-item
the price for the order is determined based on the price condition records for the sub-items. You have deactivated pricing for the main item category, so the system does not determine a price for it. Since both the main item and the sub-item categories are relevant for billing, the prices (even if there is no price) are copied to the invoice and billed accordingly.

Material Determination - VB11 / VB12 / VB13

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