Material vs. Products and Business Partner vs. Customer and Vendor

Hi,
Just wondering if there's any SAP recommendation for using 'Products' repository vs. Material repository. Similarly, is there any SAP recommendation for using 'Business Partner' repository vs. Customer and Vendor repositories.
Can anyone would like to shed some light on what is recommended with pros and cons? Any help will be highly appreciated.
Thanks

Hi Mins,
you can group the repositories in the following way:
Group 1
- Material
- Vendor
- Customer
Group 2
- Product
- Business Partner
Repositories of Group 1 are related to the corresponding R/3 (ERP) data models. The repositories cover a large part of the R/3 fields and can be used to integrate your R/3 systems with MDM as they contain import and syndication maps for R/3.
Repositories of Group 2 are related to the common CRM and SRM data model. Those repositories have been developed with the goal to integrate CRM, SRM and R/3 with MDM. Unfortunately the structure of the Group 1 repositories was not capable to fullfill this. Group 2 repositories contain import and syndication maps to all remote systems (CRM, SRM, R/3). But those repositories are not as large as the Group 1 as the first task of the Group 2 repositories was the data consolidation scenario.
There is no general recommendation which repository to use. It depends on the project setup on customer side:
- If you want to use MDM for R/3 only, it makes sense to use Group 1
- If you want to use MDM for R/3 only, but you want to consolidate your customers and vendors in one single repository, you should use the Business Partner Repository because this one can hold both object types
- If you want to use MDM for CRM and SRM, you should use Group 2
So a general recommendation could be to check the Master Data setup and landscape within your project and then to choose the corresponding repository.
Kind regards
Michael

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