Mavericks - clean install with filevault and Time machine restore

Hi All,
I will update my MacBook pro mid 2011 with the new Mavericks OS.
I've activated Filevault on my HDD due to corporate security rules.
I want to make a clean install of the new OS.
I plan the following action:
1 - Make a full backup with Time machine
2 - Create a USB drive with Mavericks on it, I'm using Diskmaker to create it
3 - Start MBP with the USB
4 - With disk utility erase my HDD
5 - Install Mavericks
6 - Reload my data from the Time machine Backup
Question:
I'm a bit Scare about the Time Machine backup and Filevault, any experience with the same configuration, do I risk anythink if I follow my plan ?
Do I need to desactivated Filevault before to lunch my clean install and make the backup after that ?
Thanks in advance for your feedback
Regards
Alain M.

Hi Alain,
I see you never got a reply to this, but I'm wondering what you finally did? I have very similar questions, but I'm "upgrading" from 10.6.8 Snow Leopard. I also have FileVault activated and use a Time Machine backup. Any comments/suggestions/experience you (or others) would like to share would be helpful.
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