Mavericks Install time

Just so folks have an idea of time necessary for the mavericks upgrade - I downloaded and installed mavericks on its first night of release.  The actual download time wasn't bad - about 10 minutes at 7.2 MBps (or 57.6 Mbps - darned good speed, considering my service tops out at a nominal 50Mbps - but often gets more, closer to 60Mbps).
My computer is a 2009 dual quad core Mac Pro. 2.26 GHz - not blindingly fast, but hanging in there.
After the download, then the long delay - TWO HOURS of number crunching to finish the install.  I was concerned when, with 18 minutes left to complete, my screen went black.  I started worrying about conflicts with the 3rd party peripherals attached - but no need.  I remembered my energy saving settings put my screen (only) to sleep a bit short of 2 hours.  Moving the mouse restored it.  However, it went to sleep several more times before the installation was complete. There was no disruption of the install proces, however.
Pay no attention to the estimated times shown in the "time remaining" windows.  One early estimate was 26 hours.  That finally adjusted - but the times are still wildly inacurate.  Inside 18 minutes remaining for the Mavericks completion, each "minute" took 3 to 4 actual minutes to tick off.  The final "Less than 1 minute" took 10.  But that was no different from earlier OS updates, which were just as bad.
I upgraded iMovie, iPhoto and Aperture after installing Mavericks.  The downloads/installation of just those 3 apps took over 2 hours, with speeds in the range of 60 to 700 KBps, likely becaus the App Store was deluged - thee were Safari and other app upgrades out for Lion and Mountain Lion systems too, plus the 3 needed with Mavericks.
I had expected the first startup after the installation would be slow, and it was.  What was surprising ws how slow the whole computer was - to the point that I shut down and restarted.  It improved, but was still slow.  Too tired and way past my bedtime, I shut it down.  However, on start today, everything was fine.  I don't notice much speed improvement over Mountain Lion - I was looking for some because of Mavericks' allegedly improved memory management.  But, I'm running 12 GB of RAM anyway, and have yet to max it out - so likely that isn't a big factor on this machine.

Since number crunching is involved in the uodate, of course machine speed would be a factor.  That's why I specified which mine was.
My brother's 2012 iMac - I don't recall its specifics, except that it had the fastest processor available for the iMac and the Apple SSD/HD combo unit - and his installation, done midday, took 36 minutes.
I mention the time of day for a reason:  I don't know if additional downloading is done after the OS10.9 Install app is downloaded, once the install begins.  If it is, then load on Apple's servers and you own ISP could be a factor.
Because I used an improper setting in Carbon Copy Cloner when I backed up to my hard drive, not all of the Mavericks files were written properly.  Before I found out what I had done wrong, I decided to simply "restore" 10.9 on that drive using the 10.9 Restore I had made on a thumb drive, via the uodated Lion Diskmaker program (yes, it is updated for Mavericks).  When I tried that, it invoked the OS 10.9 Install App, but also indicated the "additional downloads" were being performed.  That install took about 45 minutes - but it was also unsuccessful.  The install via the "restore" thumb drive operates in conjunction Lion Diskmaker - which I am sure is what provided the "additional downloads" message.
Fortunately, I had also kept a copy of the install software on yet another drive.  I dumped my entire System and Library files on the target backup HD, and did a fresh install from this 3rd drive, using only the Apple OS10.9 Install App - there was no notice of additional meterial, and the install alone took 36 minutes (which again, does not include the time to download the install app).  Including the download time for that from Oct. 22, my total install would likely have taken 46 minutes.
Both of the latter efforts were at midday also - but there is a hint at least that once the download of the Install App is complete, more may still have to be downloaded - and server load on the Apple site could explain the 2 hour time to complete on Oct. 22, despite the very fast initial download of the install app.
The time estimates generated on my machne were still way off.

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    Before we get started, I just want to open with this info: My Macbook Pro is from 2008, and has a notorious habit of crashing... I hear what sounds like a rhythmic "ticking" sound from within the laptop, and everything on screen freezes up, and I have to do a hard-reboot. Other than that and a few graphical glitches with games, it runs seamlessly and had a good 19 GB free while attempting the update. Also to note, I have a BootCamp partition of about 30 GB for Windows XP. Additionally, I was an IDIOT and did NOT set up Time Machine or make a backup for my files, because, I repeat, I'm an IDIOT apparently.
    So I had 10.6.8 installed -- Snow Leopard... and I heard there was a new free update to 10.8.0: Maverick. Of course it peaked my interest and I tried to install, not realizing it could potentially brick my laptop! Shoulda done some research
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    Of course at this point, I'm confused. I have no idea what that means. So I try to reboot to see if it would help, and the same error occured twice more.
    This time, when I rebooted, I held Alt-Option to see if I could just select my HD drive and bypass the install. Nope. The only options were this: "Windows Partition, Maverick OSX Install, recovery-(something something)"... my HD drive wasn't even listed! This made me nervous. So, I selected the recovery disk option and it opened a menu with a few options, including reinstalling OSX, disk utility... etc. So I selected disk utility. I then proceeded to select my HD drive, and click "repair" in the first aid tab. It took about 10-15 minutes, but it successfully finished, giving me a green "Disk seems ok" message. This was a bit of relief. But now that the disk is repaired, how do I access it and exit the endless loop of Maverick installation? Do I need to reinstall OSX with my original disk/Snow Leopard disk?
    Please help me recover my HD drive... I desperately need my laptop for school.
    Thanks in advance. If you need any more additional info on my computer, I will be happy to try and provide it.

    if you have no install disk, best to do fsck. http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106214 hopefully that will do something for you. when you say it "freezes" at startup it is hard to know what to tell you. there are different types of screens that occur with startup issues. this is an incredible article for startup issues--http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106464. do not worry that it says "10.3.9 or earlier". these steps are reliable for tiger as well. i hope that works for you.[:)]

  • I cannot down load Yosemite from the App Store. It keeps saying there is an error.  I have Mavericks installed now.  Can I download Yosemite anywhere else besides the App Store?

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    ☞ In the Finder, select Go ▹ Utilities from the menu bar, or press the key combination shift-command-U. The application is in the folder that opens.
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    Copy the messages to the Clipboard by pressing the key combination command-C. Paste into a reply to this message (command-V).
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    ☞ The log contains a vast amount of information, almost all of it useless for solving any particular problem. When posting a log extract, be selective. A few dozen lines are almost always more than enough.
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  • Mac App store problem after Mavericks install

    I have installed Mavericks, 3 times now, on my MacBook Air. There have been a few hicups but the only one I have been unable to fix is the App Store. It will open, accept my user name and perform updates however it will not allow me to view or download new Apps. If I create a new user that user has full functionality. So the Maverick install has obviously done something to my Mac Store user settings. Has anyone any idea how I fix it?
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    This procedure will unlock all your user files (not system files) and reset their ownership and access-control lists to the default. If you've set special values for those attributes on any of your files, they will be reverted. In that case, either stop here, or be prepared to recreate the settings if necessary. Do so only after verifying that those settings didn't cause the problem. If none of this is meaningful to you, you don't need to worry about it.
    I've tested these instructions only with the Safari web browser. If you use another browser, they may not work as described.
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    Copy the selected text to the Clipboard by pressing the key combination command-C.
    Launch the Terminal application in any of the following ways:
    ☞ Enter the first few letters of its name into a Spotlight search. Select it in the results (it should be at the top.)
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    You'll be prompted for your login password. Nothing will be displayed when you type it. You may get a one-time warning to be careful. If you don’t have a login password, you’ll need to set one before you can run the command. If you see a message that your username "is not in the sudoers file," then you're not logged in as an administrator.
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    Take this step only if you have trouble with Step 1 or if it doesn't solve the problem.
    Boot into Recovery. When the OS X Utilities screen appears, select
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  • I have Maverick installed and my mail, Safari, Mac App Store, and iMessages apps all say that they quit unexpectedly and will not open.  Any suggestions?

    I have Maverick installed and my mail, Safari, Mac App Store, and iMessages apps all say that they quit unexpectedly and will not open.  Any suggestions?
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    Version:    
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    Build Info: 
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    Date/Time:  
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    OS Version: 
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    Anonymous UUID:  5D0F67F3-4D58-F054-66B6-24017FD68ADC
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    I will check.  Can the security update be installed if you can no longer open the Mac App Store app?
    I was listening to the MacCast podcast and the host had a similar issue and did something similar to the link below.  I am concerned that I may mess something up by doing this.
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    I've been experiencing intermittent networking slowness with my MacBook pro since I installed Mavericks (previously had Mountain Lion). Where before I never noticed any slowdowns, now many web pages (like google.com) stall for several seconds before loading, and LAN operations (file sharing to a Mac OS X 10.6 server machine, Windows 7 boxes, etc.) are all rather pokey. Speedtest.net shows 1-3 Mb/s it's internet test, another wifi connected computer (linux) tested immediately after gets 12+ Mb/s (My provider is comcast).
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    Thanks for the tip about the logs. I found a leftover VPN service which I removed. (Cisco OpenConnect, installed with MacPorts). Unfortunately, removing it didn't help the wifi troubles, but I also don't need it anymore.
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