Mavericks Mail group address issue

Since upgrading to Mavericks, the method to NOT show all email addresses in a contacts group does not work. We have unchecked the show all group email addresses in Mail Preferences, but just typing in a Contacts group in the TO line shows only the group name (like Friends), but when the actual email is sent, all email addresses are visible to all recepients. This has always worked in the past.
We realize that you can start your new email by Control-clickling the group in Contacts, but that is a poor work-around, since you can't start the email first.
Anyone have a fix? We have duplicated this on both our MBAs.

I have the SAME Problem, exactly, very frustrating.
Before Mavericks, this has not happened.
Thank you
Harry
[email protected]

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Klaus Blume wrote:
Mmmhh... The last group email I have sent was almost a year ago April 1, 2014. It worked then. I can't remember what OS we were on then, but I keep my system software always up to the minute.
For me, hiding the recipients of a group is vital. There is always some i**ot who hits 'reply all,' and kicks lose an avalanche of emails...
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Austin,
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