Mavericks Messages - iMessage offline when Messages closed

Hi there,
when i have Messages closed on my Mac, I cannot receive iMessages. Other iPhone Users cannot send me any iMessages. This just works when I have Messages up an running on my Mac. Is that normal? Shouldn't I be able to receive iMessages on Mavericks even if Messages isn't actually running?
Thank you very much in advance!
Cheers

How about this -- it seems like it should work though I've never personally tried it:
Do what I suggested above, which will make Notification Center not responsible for alerting you about messages.
Make the Messages app responsible for notifying you instead.  Do this by opening Messages > Preferences > Alerts and making sure the event "Message Received" has the "Play a Sound" box checked with something like "Received Message" as the sound.

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    Thread 16:: JavaScriptCore::Marking
    0   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x00007fff8a1520fa __psynch_cvwait + 10
    1   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff87e6afc9 _pthread_cond_wait + 869
    2   com.apple.JavaScriptCore                0x00007fff879570f4 JSC::SlotVisitor::drainFromShared(JSC::SlotVisitor::SharedDrainMode) + 212
    3   com.apple.JavaScriptCore                0x00007fff87956fd6 JSC::MarkStackThreadSharedData::markingThreadMain() + 214
    4   com.apple.JavaScriptCore                0x00007fff87a09a9f ***::wtfThreadEntryPoint(void*) + 15
    5   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff87e66782 _pthread_start + 327
    6   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff87e531c1 thread_start + 13
    Thread 17:: CVDisplayLink
    0   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x00007fff8a1520fa __psynch_cvwait + 10
    1   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff87e6b003 _pthread_cond_wait + 927
    2   com.apple.CoreVideo                     0x00007fff85e36ed5 CVDisplayLink::waitUntil(unsigned long long) + 271
    3   com.apple.CoreVideo                     0x00007fff85e3623d CVDisplayLink::runIOThread() + 529
    4   com.apple.CoreVideo                     0x00007fff85e36013 startIOThread(void*) + 148
    5   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff87e66782 _pthread_start + 327
    6   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff87e531c1 thread_start + 13
    Thread 18:
    0   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x00007fff8a150686 mach_msg_trap + 10
    1   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x00007fff8a14fc42 mach_msg + 70
    2   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x00007fff8a14ce2a thread_suspend + 71
    3   ???                                     0x000000011683d78f 0 + 4672706447
    Thread 19:
    0   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x00007fff8a150686 mach_msg_trap + 10
    1   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x00007fff8a14fc42 mach_msg + 70
    2   com.apple.CoreFoundation                0x00007fff8e3def23 __CFRunLoopServiceMachPort + 195
    3   com.apple.CoreFoundation                0x00007fff8e3e4606 __CFRunLoopRun + 1078
    4   com.apple.CoreFoundation                0x00007fff8e3e3dd2 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 290
    5   com.apple.CoreFoundation                0x00007fff8e3f2a81 CFRunLoopRun + 97
    6   eia                                     0x0000000116c1fc25 spectorRunLoop(void*) + 154
    7   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff87e66782 _pthread_start + 327
    8   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff87e531c1 thread_start + 13
    Thread 20:: com.apple.appkit-heartbeat
    0   libsystem_kernel.dylib                  0x00007fff8a152386 __semwait_signal + 10
    1   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff87ef0828 nanosleep + 163
    2   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff87ef073f usleep + 54
    3   com.apple.AppKit                        0x00007fff836850e8 -[NSUIHeartBeat _heartBeatThread:] + 543
    4   com.apple.Foundation                    0x00007fff8b416842 __NSThread__main__ + 1345
    5   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff87e66782 _pthread_start + 327
    6   libsystem_c.dylib                       0x00007fff87e531c1 thread_start + 13
    Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (64-bit):
      rax: 0x0000000000000000  rbx: 0x0000000000000006  rcx: 0x00007fff50d02158  rdx: 0x0000000000000000
      rdi: 0x0000000000000c07  rsi: 0x0000000000000006  rbp: 0x00007fff50d02180  rsp: 0x00007fff50d02158
       r8: 0x00007fff73182278   r9: 0x000000000000000b  r10: 0x0000000020000000  r11: 0x0000000000000206
      r12: 0x00007fff50d022e0  r13: 0x00007fff83cc7bf1  r14: 0x00007fff73183180  r15: 0x00007fff50d021c0
      rip: 0x00007fff8a152212  rfl: 0x0000000000000206  cr2: 0x00007fff7317bfe8
    Logical CPU: 0
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    Subject: Re : How to tell embedded jinitator applet is still running when window closed
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    Subject: Re : How to tell embedded jinitator applet is still running when window closed
    I'm sorry this is not helpful at all.
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    Closing thread.
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