Max ram late 2007 17" MBP

The book says 4GB max OWC 6GB. I have bought a lot of memory from them in the past with no problems and wonder if anyone has installed 6 in their MBP.

If OWC says 6 GB will work, 6 GB will work and you not have any problems.   Mactracker concurs with them.  If you want to add RAM to total 6 GB, by all means do so.
Ciao.

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    Hi,
    Has anyone else tried upgrading the RAM to 4GB or 8GB in late 2007/early 2008 models ?
    Discussed here some time ago :
    http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1586222&start=15&tstart=0
    John

    OWC (in the US) have tested this pretty thoroughly. 6 Gigs definitely works fine in the late 2007 and 2008 C2D models - from the 2.2 and 2.4Ghz "Santa Rosa" models onwards, and they sell warranted 6 gig "kits" accordingly - see http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/memory/MacBook/Pro/Core2/.
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    Rod

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    Hi guys,
    this is my first post here. I look forward to learn and help others.
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    Hardware Information:
              MacBook Pro (15-inch  2.4/2.2GHz)
              MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro3,1
              1 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo CPU: 2 cores
              4 GB RAM
    Video Information:
              GeForce 8600M GT     - VRAM: 256 MB
    Audio Plug-ins:
              BluetoothAudioPlugIn: Version: 1.0
              AirPlay: Version: 1.9
              AppleAVBAudio: Version: 2.0.0
              iSightAudio: Version: 7.7.3
    Startup Items:
              DynDNSUpdater - Path: /Library/StartupItems/DynDNSUpdater
    System Software:
              OS X 10.9 (13A603) - Uptime: 6 days 2:7:17
    Disk Information:
              WDC WD5000BEVT-00ZAT0 disk0 : (500.11 GB)
                        EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted>: 209.7 MB
                        Macintosh HD (disk0s2) /: 149.92 GB (76.8 GB free)
                        Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>: 650 MB
                        Storage (disk0s4) /Volumes/Storage: 349.19 GB (54.74 GB free)
    USB Information:
              Apple Inc. Built-in iSight
              Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller
              Apple Computer Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad
              Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver
    FireWire Information:
    Thunderbolt Information:
    Kernel Extensions:
              com.rim.driver.BlackBerryUSBDriverInt          (0.0.74)
              com.globaldelight.driver.BoomDevice          (1.1)
              com.eltima.SyncMate.kext          (0.2.5b15)
              com.vmware.kext.vmci          (90.4.18)
              com.vmware.kext.vsockets          (90.4.23)
              com.vmware.kext.vmnet          (0104.03.86)
              com.vmware.kext.vmx86          (0104.03.86)
              com.vmware.kext.vmioplug.10.1.24          (10.1.24)
    Problem System Launch Daemons:
    Problem System Launch Agents:
    Launch Daemons:
              [loaded] com.adobe.fpsaud.plist
              [loaded] com.adobe.SwitchBoard.plist
              [invalid] com.bjango.istatmenusdaemon.plist
              [loaded] com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper.plist
              [loaded] com.rim.BBDaemon.plist
              [loaded] com.synium.cleanappdaemon.plist
              [failed] rapiback.plist
    Launch Agents:
              [not loaded] com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist
              [loaded] com.bjango.istatmenusagent.plist
              [loaded] com.epson.epw.agent.plist
              [loaded] com.rim.BBAlbumArtCacher.plist
              [loaded] com.rim.BBLaunchAgent.plist
              [loaded] net.culater.SIMBL.Agent.plist
              [loaded] org.gpgtools.macgpg2.gpg-agent.plist
              [invalid] org.gpgtools.macgpg2.gpg-agent.plist.plist
              [failed] syncmateStarter.plist
    User Launch Agents:
              [loaded] com.google.keystone.agent.plist
              [loaded] com.spotify.webhelper.plist
              [loaded] com.valvesoftware.steamclean.plist
    User Login Items:
              Boom
              Flux
              iTunesHelper
              Dropbox
              Cinch
    3rd Party Preference Panes:
              Application Enhancer
              Box Sync
              Flash Player
              Flip4Mac WMV
              FUSE for OS X (OSXFUSE)
              GPGPreferences
              Perian
    Internet Plug-ins:
              Default Browser.plugin
              DirectorShockwave.plugin
              Flash Player.plugin
              FlashPlayer-10.6.plugin
              Flip4Mac WMV Plugin.plugin
              Google Earth Web Plug-in.plugin
              JavaAppletPlugin.plugin
              MeetingJoinPlugin.plugin
              QuickTime Plugin.plugin
              SharePointBrowserPlugin.plugin
              Silverlight.plugin
              Unity Web Player.plugin
    User Internet Plug-ins:
    Bad Fonts:
              None
    Time Machine:
              Skip System Files: NO
              Auto backup: NO
              Time Machine not configured!
    Top Processes by CPU:
                  22%          vmware-vmx
                   6%          Google Chrome
                   4%          WindowServer
                   3%          coreaudiod
                   2%          Boom
                   1%          EtreCheck
                   0%          BBLaunchAgent
                   0%          mds_stores
                   0%          CleanApp Daemon
                   0%          mds
    Top Processes by Memory:
              586 MB             vmware-vmx
              135 MB             Finder
              98 MB              Google Chrome
              90 MB              softwareupdated
              74 MB              Dropbox
              66 MB              VMware Fusion
              59 MB              mds_stores
              58 MB              Google Chrome Helper
              53 MB              WindowServer
              45 MB              systemstats
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              40 MB              Free RAM
              1.18 GB            Active RAM
              1.13 GB            Inactive RAM
              1.07 GB            Wired RAM
              24.09 GB           Page-ins
              645 MB             Page-outs
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    Oscar.

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              MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro3,1
              1 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo CPU: 2 cores
              4 GB RAM
    Video Information:
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    Audio Plug-ins:
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              AirPlay: Version: 1.9
              AppleAVBAudio: Version: 2.0.0
              iSightAudio: Version: 7.7.3
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              OS X 10.9 (13A603) - Uptime: 0 days 0:22:52
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              WDC WD5000BEVT-00ZAT0 disk0 : (500.11 GB)
                        EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted>: 209.7 MB
                        Macintosh HD (disk0s2) /: 149.92 GB (77.67 GB free)
                        Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>: 650 MB
                        Storage (disk0s4) /Volumes/Storage: 349.19 GB (54.09 GB free)
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              Apple Inc. Built-in iSight
              Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller
              Apple Computer Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad
              Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver
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    Thunderbolt Information:
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              com.rim.driver.BlackBerryUSBDriverInt          (0.0.74)
              com.globaldelight.driver.BoomDevice          (1.1)
              com.eltima.SyncMate.kext          (0.2.5b15)
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              [loaded] com.adobe.fpsaud.plist
              [loaded] com.adobe.SwitchBoard.plist
              [invalid] com.bjango.istatmenusdaemon.plist
              [loaded] com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper.plist
              [loaded] com.rim.BBDaemon.plist
              [loaded] com.synium.cleanappdaemon.plist
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              [not loaded] com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist
              [loaded] com.bjango.istatmenusagent.plist
              [loaded] com.epson.epw.agent.plist
              [loaded] com.rim.BBAlbumArtCacher.plist
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              [loaded] com.google.keystone.agent.plist
              [loaded] com.spotify.webhelper.plist
              [loaded] com.valvesoftware.steamclean.plist
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              Boom
              Flux
              iTunesHelper
              Dropbox
              Cinch
    3rd Party Preference Panes:
              Box Sync
              Flash Player
              Flip4Mac WMV
              FUSE for OS X (OSXFUSE)
              Perian
    Internet Plug-ins:
              Default Browser.plugin
              DirectorShockwave.plugin
              Flash Player.plugin
              FlashPlayer-10.6.plugin
              Flip4Mac WMV Plugin.plugin
              Google Earth Web Plug-in.plugin
              JavaAppletPlugin.plugin
              MeetingJoinPlugin.plugin
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              SharePointBrowserPlugin.plugin
              Silverlight.plugin
              Unity Web Player.plugin
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    Time Machine:
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              Auto backup: NO
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                   5%          WindowServer
                   4%          coreaudiod
                   3%          com.apple.qtkitserver
                   2%          com.apple.WebKit.WebContent
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                   0%          SystemUIServer
                   0%          BBLaunchAgent
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              152 MB             com.apple.IconServicesAgent
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              2.02 GB            Active RAM
              620 MB             Inactive RAM
              561 MB             Wired RAM
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    Found a workaround, to sum it up, it's pretty much my dead internal superdrive (as for unbootable USB, that's still a mistery). What I did was moving the HDD to my 2012 MBP and install from there. The problem is now that since I installed it on another machine (with ofc all different hardwares) I got blue screen whenever I tried to start Windows7 (in 2007 MBP after moving the HDD back there).
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    If fsck finds trouble, and it will surely find orphaned or invalid links and directory counts, etc., it will attempt to repair the problems and it will report a FILE SYSTEM MODIFIED ofter a successful repair (just follow the writing on the screen, it's kinda fun . At this point press the "up" arrow key on your keyboard, which tells the unix shell to repeat the operation, just to be on the safe side. Wait through it and if you get a short list ending as described above, type reboot or exit in SL.
    If all went well, you should get your drive back after normal GUI boot up. You should run Disk Utility's Repair Permissions after a normal boot.
    If not, then invest in DiskWarrior (http://www.alsoft.com) and / or TechTool Pro (http://www.micromat.com), as both come with MacOS X booting disks and try the revival from outside you mbp. TT Pro can run actual hardware & file system diagnostics on your mbp, even down to components.
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    I'm no UNIX head, but I find myself doing this routine almost every time I have to restart or do a cold boot.

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