Maximum Memory Clarification - MBP 2012 (Non-Retina)

I have seen conflicting sources regarding the maximum amount of memory that can be put into the 2012 MacBook Pro 15" (Non-Retina). I would like to max out the memory. Can it handle 16GB or only 8GB? I plan to use the additional memory for VMs. I would like to upgrade it with memory from Crucial (which is one of the places I've seen conflicting information).
Purchase Option #1
Non-Retina 15" MBP 2.6Ghz
Purchase Option #2
Non-Retina 15" MBP 2.3Ghz
Thanks!

As someone who has been and currently is tasked with minimizing risk exposure to the infrastructure, I take issue with this sequence and prefer thus:
clintonfrombirmingham wrote:
Buy yourself a $10-20 2.5" USB enclosure for your 'old' drive (OWC is a good source).
Place the new SSD temporarily in the enclosure and connect to the Mac. Boot normally then use Disk Utility to format your SSD (GUID partition scheme / Mac OS Extended (Journaled) format).
Use Carbon Copy Cloner, Disk Utility (i.e. your choice of cloning software) and make a clone of your internal drive onto your SSD.
Boot from the SSD - the first time may take a moment - be sure and select your SSD as the startup disk in System Preferences and you'll be booting in 14-15 seconds, tops. Test and make sure all is well and TRIM is enabled if necessary.
Swap the SSD with the HDD in drive bay: this requires removing ten screws from the back casing and two screws on the drive casing using a Phillips #000 screwdriver. You will also need a Torx screwdriver for four screws on the drive itself (I got an $18 from OWC).
After putting old drive in external enclosure, use as desired or keep as a backup.
Enjoy!
This reduces the downtime during which the Mac is unusable in case of any problem. BTW, SuperDuper does not clone the all-important Recovery Mode partition on the Lions.
Cheers.

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try this. see if it sorts it out for you.
keep your ssd plugged in the USB.
open up disk utility. format/erase using Mac OS extended journaled.
once that's done, open carbon copy - free download if you don't have it.
start cloning your drive to your ssd. you will get a pop up message saying a lion recovery partition wasn't created. Create one with carbon copy.
Proceed to clone your drive. Once that's done, you can do a test boot buy selecting your ssd as your start up drive.
Once it boots up, install it in your macbook. Power up and you should be back in business.
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If I were you, I would take the machine into your local Apple Store and compare it with similar models on display. My late 2011 15" has a bright, vibrant screen and so should your new 13".
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I would really appreciate any help and advice. I've never switched out a hard drive before.
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Macbook Pro 15-in Mid 2012
Model Identifier: MacBookPro9,1
Processor: 2.3 GHz Intel Core i7
Memory: 4 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
Software: OS x 10.8.5
Storage (Hard drive): APPLE HDD ST500LM012 Media, Rotational, SATA, GPT (GUID Partition Table)

1. Is a hybrid solid state drive going to need some kind of special formatting after I put it into the macbook so that I can put the operating system on it?
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2. Is a "normal" platter hard drive more reliable than a hybrid solid state drive?
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3. Is there any additional driver or special software that I have to install for a hybrid solid state drive?
No
4. Currently there is no personal data stored on the computer. Can I just put the new hard drive in, and then insert the snow leopard install cd?
You can physically put the hard drive in but probably not install Snow Leopard on this MBP.
The mid-2012 MacBookPro9,1 models came with Lion 10.7.3 (11D2097) preinstalled.   It is very unlikely you would be able to install Snow Leopard on it. Historically you cannot install a version of OS X that is earlier than the version that came with your Mac (even if you replace the hard drive).
5. If I install snow leopard, can I just go to the App store and get the free upgrade to Mavericks?
Not via Snow Leopard on this MBP. See my response to #4.
6. If I want to do the "Data Doubler" option in the future and add a normal Solid State drive into my computer, will it have trouble interacting with the 1 tb hybrid solid state drive?
No. They are completely independent of each other; they are just independent storage units (drives) and their RAM does not interact.

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Had problems reading SD cards after a Mountain Lion update. Try this XQuartz solution that fixed this for me. I'm using a 13" MBP mid-2012. All you have to do is install this programme and re-insert your SD card.
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See this support page from Apple on where you can download XQuartz.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5293?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US
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If I were you, I would take the machine into your local Apple Store and compare it with similar models on display. My late 2011 15" has a bright, vibrant screen and so should your new 13".
If you see that your display is simply not up to par, exchange your computer for another - you have 14 days from date of purchase to exchange or return for a full refund.
Good luck,
Clinton

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but the latest price updates and new processors on... everything else, makes me think that Apple will just run out the supply of the non retinas until they're gone.
Does this sound like an accurate assessment?
If that is the case, what is the most likely scenario in regards to pricing and processor updates? Will they ever see a price reduction?
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This is a user forum and per the Terms of Use we all agreed to when we joined, speculation about Apple products is not a viable subject for discussion.

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8gb ram
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Im playing around I notice the system get VERY hot. When I say very, I mean hitting 100+ degrees C. Easily surpassing my watercooled desktop machine.
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Have screen shots if needed.

I AM SO HAPPY. I figured out how to fix this!!!!
1. get Temperature Monitor by Bresink
2. get smcFanControl - google it
3. Install them and get smcfancontrol to display the RPM up by your name (top bar)
4. Check your temps with Temp Monitor, mine were about 95 (203 f) celcius when playing Minecraft
5. Click the temperature and RPM sign the smc put on your top bar
6. change Active Setting form DEFAULT to HIGHER RPM
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