Maximum Multitrack Audio Recording Length

Hi there..
I'ld like to know about the Maximum Multitrack Audio recording length of LE.
For Cubase software,the Multitrack Audio Recording Length is depends on the capacity of our H.Disk...but for GarageBand the Recording Length is limited by adjusting the Measure and Tempoh to the lower tempoh....
May i know how about LE?is it posible to set the Recording Length up to 5 Hours even 8 Hours??
thanks...
Ray

This is correct, but it doesn't actually give you an ENDLESS amount of recording time.
The time is still dictated by logic, it seems to be linked to a certain number of bars. So therefore by setting the tempo really low, as the original poster said you can get a very long time out of it. I'm not sure how long this would equate to.
Once before I transferred a minidisk to cd for a friend I remember it stopped recording at about 70 mins ish, and that was set to the default of 120 BPM. So I would expect somewhere in the region of 4 times this length if setting the tempo to 30 BPM. The minimum tempo you can set logic to work at is 5 BPM, this would equal roughly 1680 minutes or 28 Hours. But whether or not it would actually happen or not is a different matter, and bare in mind these are rough maths done from a distant memory of a rough figure.
But hope that helps.

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I have three sources of media that I'm using in my project, which is a recording of a gig that my band played:
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I've figured out how to sync the sources together - I set an in point on a distinct piece of audio that exists in all three sources (actually it's someone coughing, I didn't think to have the drummer clap his sticks together before we started). Then I set an in point in the sequence, edited in the three sources, and adjusted the in points of the clips forward to the beginning of the set. At that point where the clips were matched up, the sources are perfectly in sync.
However, within 30 seconds before or after the sync point, some drift is evident in the audio that was captured on the R16. And a few minutes out, it's seconds off. I capture these gigs one set at a time, so we're talking about clips that are an hour long (we usually do two or three sets).
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fudster wrote:
RyanManUtd wrote:
Hmmm ... honestly .... I am running out of ideas ...
Can I ask:
1. did you get both their starting point correct ?
2. Are the duration of both the video clips & audio clips you are trying to sync the same length ? That is, if the audio is 10 secs, then is the video also 10 secs ?
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1. Yes, I'm certain that I matched up the in points correctly while making the edits. In the audio tracks, I zoomed in all the way so I could get sub-frame position - as described starting on pg 474 of the manual. At that point, they are in perfect sync. And as you get further away from that matched point in the sequence, the drift gets worse.
2. The length of the audio that was recorded on the cameras is exactly the same length as the video (of course). The audio clips recorded on the R16 are all exactly the same length as each other as well.
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I don't actually know how exact clip lengths from separate recording sources could be achieved, and since I'm editing them in separately, I think it shouldn't make a different. The keyword being "shouldn't", of course. In any case, if you extend the clips all the way out to play all the available media in the track (using up all the handles), the extents of the clips in the tracks appear a few seconds different from each other, as they should.
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