MBA 13" new LCD color temperature is too blue?

I had the Rev C 13" (128 SSD) and just received my new machine. It seems that the display on the new 13" is much "cooler" (blueish tint) than on the late 2009 (rev C) MBA. Disturbingly so, and very noticeable side by side.
Did I get a lemon or is the LCD on the new 13" just different? It doesn't look obviously buggy, just noticeably cooler.

I agree that it's a little bluer, note there are multiple LCDs being used so one brand might be a little different than another. The real solution is to calibrate your screen with something like the X-Rite i2Display or the Spyder 3 Pro options out there. I've calibrated mine and it works very well.

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Hi,
Is there a way to adjust monitor color temperature? As notebooks surely don't have any buttons on the lid, should be a software thing.
Toshiba Satellite L40-14G, KDEmod 4.
Is it possible?

I've used argyllcms with the one of the cheap Huey colorimeters and it worked pretty well. I don't need professional grade color management, but I understand that argyll can provide this if you have the patience and hardware to get setup. Note that the target color temp is typically based on the type of work you'll be doing with the system. You can read more about that at the argyll docs page.
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MBP LCD Caliberation, the color temperature

guys, I use spyder 1 pro with optical to caliberate the LCD screen of my MBP. I want to caliberate it to 6500k gamma 2.2. However, the result is a nightmare!!!
Do you know the excact color temperature of MBP's LCD? or, should I caliberate it to Native white, gamme 2.2?

guys, I use spyder 1 pro with optical to caliberate
the LCD screen of my MBP. I want to caliberate it to
6500k gamma 2.2. However, the result is a
nightmare
do you have the glossy screen?

I brought a new ipad mini with retina. The color saturation is too low to me, especially the purple. My wife started to complain because the color is really different from iphone and ipad. Can user adjust that?

I brought a new ipad mini with retina. The color saturation is too low to me, especially the purple. My wife started to complain because the color is really different from inphone and ipad. Can user adjust that?

Other than a couple of minor adjustments, such as the one that Diavonex suggested above, there is nothing that a user can do in settings to adjust color. There is no way to calibrate the color like you can do with a computer monitor.

New to color correction - need help on too bright shot

Need help to fix this shot! I've been messing around with color corrector 3 way and nothing seems to help. I'm new to color correction and would greatly appreciate any advice.
Thanks,
Jenny

When you see white pixels in an overexposed shot, it means that there's often no pixel data to work with.
While the best option is a reshoot (this time with proper monitoring), you may want to try the "Captain's Blowout Fixer" filter available here: http://pistolerapost.com/pluginz/index.html
It let's you looks to see which color channel has the most remaining pixel data (if any) and work with it to overcome production screw-ups like this. Make sure you watch the tutorial on how to properly use the filter.
-DH

Color temperature brush

I vote for a new Color Temperature sliding control for the Adjustment Brush. I recently did a couple of weddings with mixed lighting, and could have use that control. As it is, I had to go to Photoshop to fix. The existing Color Patch control is not as flexible as a sliding control for this purpose.

It's rare I don't agree with you RB but I guess there's a first time for everything
Curves are extremely powerful (especially combined with brushes) but they're still post-exposure and their range appear to be very dependent on that slider.
I just did a side-by-side test by duplicating a picture with a blown-out background:
On the first one I dragged the exposure way down. This resulted in bringing the background completely back to a normal range (making the foreground way too dark obviously).
On the second one I kept the exposure slider at its original position and tried using curves instead. The result was a bit like trying to regain highlights from a JPEG file - the data didn't seem to be there and the blown-out areas were simply lowered in density without any detail recovery.
It basically looks like the exposure slider is acting as a threshold for the curves brick. This is an extreme case mind you. But from what I've seen there's a very real difference there.

Camileo X-Sports - Temperature is too high

Hi everyone,
I just received a brand knew Camelio X-Sports cam and I have a serious problem : I installed le camera into the case, I started filming in 1080p60 and whihin minutes the cam just went off.
I started filming again and 2 minutes later, the lcd displayed "Temperature too high", then the cam shutted down.
I removed the cam from the case, then removed the battery, it was indeed pretty hot.
I updated the firmware to 2248 but it didn't change anything.
I think the battery may be faulty but I wanted to ask the forum before returning it to the store.
I didn't find any relative thread on the world wire web :)
Informations :
- Camelio X-Sports PA5150E-1C0K
- Firmware : v2.2.4.8 (I updated manually)
- 64GB Lexar 300x SDXC
- Powersave 1min
- LCD Brightness 2 / 3
- LCD Off 5s
My apologies for the poor language,
Best regards,
Mathieu

I read in the other thread that you purchased the new battery for this cam.
Did you notice the same higher temperature using new battery?
Feedback would be appreciated.

Color Temperature changes when playing video via Dell 2713H with iMac

Hi people,
I'm having major issues with the above. This happens specifically when video is played, be it via youtube or through VLC or even XBMC.The color temperature of the video just shifts to a cooler blue and then after a while goes back to normal. This does not happen on the monitor of the iMac itself. Otherwise, viewing still photos or browsing the web works okay. It is really very irritating as you don't expect this to be happening.
I've read that this could be an issue affecting macbooks with the ability to switch between integrated and dedicated video cards, but i can't seem to find any thing suggesting a fix for iMacs. Just so you guys know, it occurs on my macbook pro as well too.
I'm running mountain lion 10.8.2 on the iMac and connecting the dell u2713h via an displayport to mini displayport cable supplied by Dell. iMac is a late 2009 model.
If anyone could offer any insights, i'll really appreciate it.
Thanks
J

I found this in another thread and it fixed the same problem for me. Apparently it's a Dell "feature" it detects video and changes the color settings for you... ? On the monitor just disable Display Settings>Smart Video Enhance.
https://discussions.apple.com/message/25116072#25116072

Can I have "All spots to process" checked at all times, even for new spot colors?

When I check “All spots to process” in the pdf export settings and save my settings the settings remember that I've checked this option. But, if new spot color objects using new spot color swatches are added to the document (or another document) and I go into the pdf export settings the check mark has been changed into a dash (with the actual checkbox highlighted) – signifying that only some of of the spot colors will be changed to process colors during export. I absolutely fail to see how this could possibly be seen as a feature and not a bug … if the user has checked “ALL spots to process” wouldn't the user expect ALL spots to be converted to process colors, rather than just any spot colors that happened to be in the document that happened to be open when the user first checked that checkbox and saved that setting?
Am I missing something here? What's the point of even having that checkbox as part of your saved export settings if it doesn't include any other spot colors than those used when saving the settings?
What's the point of having settings if you can't trust them, and still need to manually "override" them every time?
I see that some users have taken to writing scripts that instead turn all spot colors in the swatch panel to process colors, and while I commend them for creating that workaround, I'm still pissed at Adobe for not getting the function right.
If this is a feature, who is it for? People who want to add just certain spot colors and turn those into process colors rather than turning all spot colors into process colors are surely better off doing that in the swatches panel, where they're in total control of what's what. And if they don't want to "permanently" change their spot colors to process colors, and prefer to (temporarily) convert them during exporting/printing only, they can do that in the ink manager. But when someone checks convert "All spots to process" couldn't we safely assume they really want ALL spot colors to be converted and not just some of them? I mean, the way that checkbox behaves now, it's like it's a button and not a checkbox. As in: hit the button "All spots to process" to switch all currently viewed spot colors to process colors in the ink manager, OR check the "All spots to process" checkbox to always convert ALL spot colors to process colors during exporting/printing.
Anyone got any light to shed on this?
And is there a way to actually get the advertised behavior, because if you have to run a script every time you export/print you might as well just manually select the checkbox every time instead, but either way it's just really unnecessary as far as I'm concerned … Adobe should get the feature right instead.
If you save a setting and recall it, it shouldn't be possible for that setting to change into something else (in this case changing a checkmark to a dash).
Clearly CMYK printing is the norm, so for most users it would make a lot of sense to have the "All spots to process" checked most of the time, and then you just go into the swatches panel or the ink manager and set things correctly for those print jobs that really do need spot colors.
I myself am not one of those who add spot colors to my swatches unless I'm really using them as spot colors, but I often work with magazines and folders featuring adverts made by whoever, and typically there's always at least one advert that features spot colors, and therefore it would be very nice if the "All spots to process" feature actually worked as advertised without any required actions from me.
We stopped sending ads back to the advertisers for adjustments a long time ago, unless we absolutely had to, because there were so many things wrong with so many ads that it was simply too much work to write back and explain everything to people who most of the time didn't even understand what we were talking about. We found that it was usually a LOT faster and easier to just adapt the ads ourselves, as long as it was something that could be worked out really quickly from within InDesign itself, which pretty much included most typical errors.
But with this feature I find Adobe is trying to make my job harder rather than easier, and it's pissing me off. Arrrghh… ;-)

But It's not a preference it's a shortcut
It's a bad joke, is what it is. ;-)
So, why in your opinion should it be presented the way it is? I keep saying in it's current functionality it shouldn't be presented the way it is (and that: if it is, it shouldn't work the way it does). If it's not a preference or even a proper checkbox, why present it that way?
If you put it right next to the table at the top of the window (so that it's directly associated with that information, rather than information right above it) and just called the checkbox “Spot(s) to process” and had it only visually reflect the content of the sleected spot colors in the table, then I'd see your point with likening it to the “Hyphenate” checkbox.
If a story has two selected paragraphs that uses two different hyphenation settings then the checkbox should present the way it does now, but if you hit the checkbox so that both paragraphs now use hyphenation and create a third paragraph inbetween the two previous ones it better inherit that setting and not turn off hyphenation for the new paragraph (unless of course there's a defined next paragraph style that switches to a style with hyphenation turned off). And if that checkbox said “Hyphenate all paragraphs” instead, then I would expect it to do just that, and not just the selected ones, and not just the current paragraphs but quite literally all paragraphs even newly created ones – otherwise it doesn't do what it says it does, and simply shouldn't be labeled that way.
And seriously bad interface design aside, you'd have to rename “All spots to process” to “Switch all currently displayed spot swatches listed in the table above to process” to actually describe what that checkbox does. So even if you're a fan of the current functionality, as opposed to one that actually lets the user set and forget a setting like that, and think it's better that users manually check it repeatedly (which I'm not saying that you are, but you're not giving me any feedback suggesting you even see my point of view with any of this, so what do I know?), then why wouldn't you still support an interface that visually matches/signals that functionality better? If it's a “Select all” checkbox supplementing a table containing a column of checkboxes, then present it that way. Don't put it at the bottom of the window next to another checkbox that works just like a regular checkbox and label it “All spots to process” – because that way you are signalling a different behavior.
Seriously, if I was to do design using the same mentality that Adobe uses when designing their user interfaces it wouldn't be long before I lost all clients. There's a lot to be said for de facto monopolies, I suppose. Oh no, there's nothing wrong with the design, just as long as you accept it on it's own terms and don't compare it to anything relevant, and just as long as you give people enough time to understand and accept it … and surrender to it.
For real … I wouldn't win one single pitch that way.
Today's threads have in many ways been a thorough reminder of the following quote from the second link I provided:
Is there an Internet rule yet stating that even the most obviously indefensible mistake will eventually be defended by someone somewhere? Awful marketing efforts get explained as genius viral campaigns, broken features become solutions.
And whether or not you're able to see my point of view or not is really besides the point too.
The real point was, and remains to be:
That for those who receive lots of ads or other external files that may or may not contain spot colors it would be far more useful to be able to set a checkbox to always convert all spots to process when exporting, than the current functionality is (and I'm not suggesting eliminating the current functionality, just change so it's presented like what it really is, and then just let that separate checkbox do what it says) … causing unnecessary manual action on the user's behalf shouldn't be the business of Adobe – preventing it should.
And here's further reading on the subject of bad Adobe interface design for those who might feel so inclined. ;-)
Cheers!

White Balance color temperature for custom temperature shots

Hello,
I would like to understand why LR and Photoshop too are always show wrong color temperature "As Shot"?
Let say I shoot with 6000K, set manually (Canon 40D, RAW)
Canon itself says it's 6000K in the slide info, fine.
Both Adobe apps says it's 5750K!
What's going on there?
Second question - I know the light was EXACTLY 6000K, but the slide has some green in it. Picking white balance in LR gives me 5900K (which is close to the truth) and +31 Tint, which makes slide neutral.
Of course I can correct Tint manually before the shot by WB Shift in Camera, so the question is: what is the best way - to find more or less appropriate WB shift in the camera, or use WB correction in LR after all?
Thanks
UPD. My suggestion is - Adobe doesn't read custom temperature from RAW file, it's just guessing! Is that right?

The white balance value you see in Lightroom is profile specific. It reads your custom white balance and translates it so that neutrals stay neutral, which is exactly what you want. If it wouldn't do this, your neutrals would shift in color.
The best way to get a correct white balance is to shoot a white balance (grey) card or use one of those filters on your camera to measure it. You can either set it in camera from the grey card or do it with the dropper in Lightroom and sync over the series. The effect will be the same.
P.S. unless you shoot a white balance card, you do not know that the color temp of your light is exactly 6000K. That is quite impossible to know. It might be approximately that under certain standardized conditions but you cannot be sure, no matter what you're told by the manufacturer.

IPhone 3Gs has a color temperature display is warmer, or yellow-tinted

All greetings!
My new iPhone 3Gs has a color temperature display is much warmer, or yellow-tinted compared to the my iPhone 3G.
It is a defect of my iPhone 3Gs?
Here you can see it: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2415/2660565874_ef8a841a20.jpg

I recently bought a 3Gs and compared to my old 3G there's a hug difference! my 3Gs looks really yellow! I went to Apple store at the florida mall to verify if this was normal, brought my old 3G with me so they could notice the difference,so I made the appointment and when the so called "apple genius" saw my phone he noticed the difference and took my phone to change it to the back of the store, he came back in 3 minutes claiming that he changed my phone,when I looked at it,same yellow display I said to the guy that the display looks the same but he never gave me any other option, on my way out from the store i checked the info on the phone but it was the same IMEI as the one in the box, how could this be? if they supposedly change the phone, I asked to speak to a manager and explained to her my situation, the "genius" that "helped me" told the manager that what he did was only changing the display and since I didn't like it,he went back and put back again the display that came with the phone... at this point I got really upset and I asked the manager to speak to the "genius" and asked why he lied about the situation, the manager said that she would bring the guy so we could settle this situation,they left me waiting on the store 45 minutes and none of them showed up... Great Apple store service... Yeah right!! F#$%^ them!

Iphone 5S warmer color temperature (yellow hue)

Hi guys,
Yes another yellowgate thread I am afraid...
Ive compared my iphone 5 with the iphone 5s. Both devices set to full brighntess...both running ios7....and its quite clear that my iphone 5S seems to have a much warmer color temperature when compared with the iphone 5. The iphone 5 produces white as brillaint white...whereas the iphone 5S seems to have a yellow hue to it....whites look yellow / washed out .... This is even more noticable due to ios7 which is primarily an OS with a white background / theme throughout.
Question being, is this "the norm" for the iphone 5S or a manufacturing defect ? Anyone else compared the 5 to the 5S side by side see the same issue ?
Its either a defect or apple has changed the default color temperature for the iphone 5S .... anyone got anything to back this up ? I thought these devices had exactly the same LCD panel in them ?
I dunno if I can be bothered with the whole returns process thing if all others out there are the same....
Side by side - all on full brightness...
from left to right
iphone 4s
iphone 5
iphone 5S

Hy james!
I have another problem.
Since two days the right side of my screen (iphone 5s gold 64Gb) became Yellow with a normal use.
If i touch the alluminium case i feel that the temperature is increase a lot and at the same time i see a stain in the right side of my screen.
My iphone is out of warranty.
Maybe your problem is similar of mine?

FR: color temperature adjustment layer

I know there are 5 million methods to adjust colors in PS, but I would really prefer a simple (and almost scientific) method like the color temperature adjustment in ACR (with the green-magenta color cast adjustment).
Ideally, PS would read the current color temperature from the EXIF data (and adjust to any adjustment layers below), and give the option to pick a neutral pixel (and display the color shift based on that). in case there is no original color temp available, the grey pixel picker could be used to establish a base value, and give the user at least relative color shift values (or the user could enter the values by hand from ACR).
The reason for this is that most (pro) photographers probably know the color temp of their environments (lights, ambient, gels etc) (or can read those values from ACR), so adjusting values in regards to kelvin would make things much more precise than the ambivalent values of e.g. the color balance adjustment.

What I was asking is a different method to achieve the same results what is possible with levels/curves/color balance etc without going into lab mode. (btw, the lack of a grey picker and the zoned approach of color balance isn't ideal sometimes)
thank you for reminding me that I need to brush up on my color theory. your reply has a tone of "why are you asking this, there are already tools for this" which I find a bit too conservative, when my intention is to make PS even more user friendly... if we would go with your paradigm, we wouldn't need levels, because everybody could just use curves, and yet both are very popular and often used based on the users preferences.
what I am asking is bringing the white balance settings from ACR into an adjustment layer, with all it's implications.
it would enable users to specifically balance images with mixed light sources (with the proposed color temp/WB adjustment layer with it's mask) by entering values in kelvin, and not some arbitrary numbers from 0-1 or 0-255. it would be so much easier to balance tungsten to daylight by adding 2000 kelvin to the image, or to control a straw gel that was added somewhere in the scene. I can imagine so many applications for this adjustment layer...

Adjusting color temperature from footage from a D7?

Someone is going to give me footage shot with a Canon D7 and he told me he didn't set the White Balance, but instead changed the color temperature. I have next to zero experience with DSLR video. What does that mean in terms of fixing the WB in FCP?
Thanks.

Fixing the WB will depend on how much it is off. If you push the correction too far you will introduce grain.
Transcode the footage to ProRes 422 through Log & Transfer. See Shane Ross' tutorial for tapeless workflows: http://library.creativecow.net/ross_shane/tapeless-workflow_fcp-7/1
If you need to do a lot of correction use Color instead of FCP for best results.
Also see this: http://library.creativecow.net/harrington_richard/final_cut_white_balance/1

Nokia Pro Cam: Color Temperature / Balance

As a creative I purchased this phone as to take better photos. As it does that sometimes others the auto color balance doesn't get it correct. Using the limited manual settings isn't very good either as usually they are worse. If anyone at nokia reads this would you please consider adding in 3-4 steps between each color balance setting so if say "sunny" is too warm you can go a step in one direction or the other to fine tune how it looks. Adding this feature would really make it a better application and help get perfect photos everytime. As of now the iphone auto color balance tends to look betteer, eventhough the quality of the Nokia images are better if the color isn't as pleasing then its all for nothing. Please add finer color balance / color temperature controls to the Nokia Pro Cam application!!

Photoshop CC has made Camera RAW available as a filter. That means it is easy to use it on video.
Can you do anything in Camera RAW to a video that you can't do the hard way with color correction and levels, etc, in Premiere Pro? No. Is it easier because you are used to the sliders? You bet!
This first frame is from a video I shot to test the codecs my camera can use. The trees are rather dark, because, well, I didn't care when I shot the video. I was concerned with the movement of the juggling toys.
But if I take it into Photoshop and use Camera RAW I can do very quickly what would take a lot longer, for me, in Premiere Pro. You will have to take my word for it that the color of the shirt in the corrected frame is more realistic. The Camera RAW settings were pretty much what I do to almost all of my photographs. Very slight adjustment to exposure, a little clarity, bring out the shadows, bring down the highlights that are too white and bring up the contrast.

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