MBP 15 (non-retina) - price drop ever?

So, I'm most interested in the MBP 15 non-retina...
but the latest price updates and new processors on... everything else, makes me think that Apple will just run out the supply of the non retinas until they're gone.
Does this sound like an accurate assessment?
If that is the case, what is the most likely scenario in regards to pricing and processor updates? Will they ever see a price reduction?
Just want to know whether to buy now or wait, kind of confused as to why pricing/configuration was untouched in mid-feb when the prices of the retinas were dropped.

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