MBP (9,1) Optical Drive SATA link speed?

I have found about 400 different answers for this question. Every messageboard i post to seems to have a different opinion, so to end all my confusion:
Does the Optical Drive SATA port in the Macbook Pro 9,1 non-retina model have a 6 Gbps link, or does it have a 3 Gbps link.
I have been told different answers from numerous Apple techs, and cant seem to get a concrete answer on this one. Anyone know?

It has a SATA 3 rating, 6 GBs. Whether you will ever see that or whethere it really works with fast drives, SSDs, is another story.

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SATA link speed

Hi, this topic didn't appear to be up here yet, so I'm going to ask it. When did the white MacBook switch to the SATA 3.0 Gb/s standard? I recently updated my hard drive to one that has 3.0 capability, but the link speed in the System Profiler says 1.5 only.
Every bit of research I've done tells me that SATA hardware is forward- and backward-compatible, meaning the only thing standing between my new hard drive and its full capability is the MacBook's firmware.
I noticed a recent firmware release for MacBook Pros that "unlocks" the faster standard, and it also mentioned that the newer white MacBooks have it already set up no problem. So my question is: Which model is the earliest capable of SATA 3.0 Gb/s? Also, if my late-2007 MacBook is not compatible...why is that? What is actually responsible for this limitation, if not firmware?
Thanks.
P.S. Your login link malfunctioned in Safari ("404 - We can't find the page you're looking for"). I had to use Firefox to post this message...my Mac was disappointed. Better get your "geniuses" on that

Ah yes, I admit now to have forgotten to search the MacBook Pro discussion posts. That's the only place I now see a date mentioned.
And indeed, this afternoon Safari allowed me to log in, after a week or so of "malfunctioning."
Thanks for the answer, but I would still like to understand what part of the computer is responsible for the 1.5 Gb/s limitation, since serialata.org clearly states that its hardware is forward compatible.
You have an impressive collection of devices; can I have one? :P

How can I install Windows 7 on a Retina MBP with no optical drive?

I'd like to install Windows 7 on a Retina MacBook Pro via Boot Camp.
However, the only distribution of Windows I'm aware of is on a physical disk.
My MBP doesn't have an optical drive. It can't read disks like that.
I'm hoping there's some kind of workaround here, because I'd hate to spend money on an external optical drive I'm only going to use once.
Does Microsoft offer a way to buy Windows 7 via a download?
If so, can I then copy the downloaded installer that onto an external USB hard drive and install from there?
Or is the only option to buy an external optical drive? (If that's the case, any guidance on which one to buy -- can I get away with a generic one or do I need to shell out $80 for Apple's "Superdrive?")
I actually have another Mac that does have an optical drive. Could that help me out somehow?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!

You can follow the instructions here to copy your installation disc over to a USB jump drive: http://lifehacker.com/5347382/wintoflash-turns-your-windows-installation-dvd-int o-a-usb+based-installer

Terminal command for sata link speed?

OS10.6.7. MBP 5.3 with 256GB SSD.
Since the "negotiated link speed" for the SSD is 3 GB/s most of the time, it varies from 3 GB/s to 1.5 GB/s once in a while. Is there a terminal command to "force" the SSD to always connect with a "negotiated link speed" of 3GB/s??
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If you "force" it, then you aren't "negotiating". I suggest letting it work the way it wants. You already get faster speed with that than most of us regular people could imagine.

SSD in MBP early 2011 optical drive

i have an i7 macbook pro that has been very tired lately from video editing and photoshop
i have a 500 gb hdd that i want for random files (current hard drive)
i want to run adobe premiere, photoshop and larger files from the ssd
i will be putting the ssd in the optical drive of the MBP, leaving the hdd in its place
how can i leave my old hard drive in and tell my computer to now boot from the new ssd ?
also can i just drag and drop premiere/lightroom/photoshop from current drive into ssd once completed

First off, I would NOT put the SSD in the optical bay - MacBook Pros MUCH prefer to have the boot disk in the hard drive bay - where it's supposed to be. A lot of people have had trouble with trying to boot from a storage device in the opti-bay. It may work for a while, but it usually gives you problems down the road.
So just put the SSD in the standard hard drive bay, put your hard drive in the optical bay and install OS X and all of your apps on your SSD; leaving your HD for storage.
When you install the SSD you can simply hold down the option key to boot from your 'old' drive in the opt-bay, format the SSD using Disk Utility and either clone your HD to your SSD or make a clean start of it and install ML on the SSD and then begin installing your apps on the SSD. If you're getting a 512GB SSD, you may just want to use Carbon Copy Cloner to clone your old drive to the SSD. If your SSD is going to be smaller, just install everything 'fresh'.
No, you can't just drag and drop the Adobe applications. They have tons of auxiliary files and folders that are stored all over your drive.
Oh, and after you have your SSD prepared as a boot disk, you can simply go to System Preferences>Startup Disk and select it as the boot disk.
Call back with any questions...
Clinton

Is the optical drive SATA & swappable?

I'm looking to buy a bunch of these now that they've finally updated them. However, the whole thing hinges on whether the optical drive can be replaced with a second hard drive.
Once folks start getting theirs delivered, I'd be interested to know if the superdrive is SATA and if there is room to replace it with a second HDD?
Thanks.

These folks have already disassembled the new Mini
http://www.macminicolo.net/macmini2009.html
"Three months ago, we published an article called The State of the Mac mini. In this article, we were the first the mention that the new mini would have a SATA optical drive, making it easier to have a second hard drive in it. It turns out that the optical drive is indeed SATA."

Using MBP(2007) without Optical Drive?

I have a late 2007 Macbook Pro whose optical drive has been broken. I don't even know when it stopped working. (that being said, I wish next MBP comes out without an optical drive)
I'm wondering if I can just remove the broken optical drive and leave the space empty so that I can make the laptop lighter even if it's a little bit?
Thanks for your help in advance.

I took the optical drive out of my MBP then installed a second HDD via a special bracket, I hardly use the optical drive and have an external drive to burn with on the 'once in a while' timeframe
Works very well, but as D0GG said, fraction of weight is saved not really worth it for that alone.

Retina Display MBP - 3rd party optical drive

Hi,
I have just received my retina display macbook pro. I would like to view blu-ray movies on the retina display.
For this reason, I think it would be better to purchase a 3rd party bluray drive instead of the apple superdrive.
Is there any reason the apple superdrive would be preferable to a third party device? Maybe better integration with the OS?
Also, does anybody have any recommendations from these three drives:
Samsung SE-506AB
Asus SBW-06C2X-U
Sony BDX-S500U
Thanks in advance for any advice

Thanks RobotPi for your answer.
I am aware that I will need additional software to play Blu Ray movies.
I am however wondering if a third party drive will be euqally well integrated with Mac OS.
For example, with a non-apple optical drive, will I still be able to right click on a file and click "Burn .... to Disc"?
Will I be able to boot from a non-apple USB optical drive?
Does anybody know any reason why any one of the drives I mentioned is preferable to the other two?
Thanks again

How do I install Windows 8 via ISO onto a modified MBP 2010 without an optical drive?

I have a modified 2010 MBP without an optical drive. I'm trying to install Windows 8 through bootcamp by creating a USB disk, but Startup Disk does not recognize this USB. How do I install my Win 8 ISO? Thanks in advance

I can kind of help you here. First you will need to find out if your computer can install Windows 8. The following computers can install Windows 8
MacBook Air (Mid 2011 or newer)
MacBook Pro (15-inch and 17-inch, Mid 2010 or newer)
MacBook Pro (13-inch and 15-inch with retina display, Mid 2012 or newer)
Mac Pro (Early 2009 or newer)
Mac Mini (Mid 2011 or newer)
iMac (27-inch, Mid 2010 or newer)
iMac (21.5-inch, Mid 2011 or newer)
Your computer MUST have Boot Camp 5 running on Mac OS X 10.8.3 Mountain Lion or later other wise Windows 8 will not work.
If you don't have one of those computers it won't allow you to install Windows 8. You can try getting a Windows 8 install disc and an external optical drive that supports Mac OS X. I reccomend the Soniq Slim DVD-RW Drive becuase it works with almost every disc including install discs. But before trying to use an install disc with an external optical drive make sure you go into boot camp assistant and remove the partition that you made for Windows. If this didn't help you go to Apple's Boot Camp FAQ for Windows 8. The link is below.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5628?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US
Hope this helped!

/dev/sr0 not there; optical drive is fine.

Hi,
i recently detected that my optical drive isnt working. I dont know since when this occurs, i havent used it for some days.
dmesg | grep sr gave the following
[ 28.430936] sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 24x/24x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
[ 28.431517] sr 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0
[ 48.399098] sr 1:0:0:0: CDB:
[ 59.331555] sr0: CDROM (ioctl) error, command: cdb[0]=0x51 51 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00
[ 59.331568] sr: Sense Key : 0xb [current] [descriptor]
[ 59.331572] sr: ASC=0x0 ASCQ=0x0
the kernel seems to recognize the drive correctly
Oct 20 11:58:49 moritz-thinkpad kernel: ata2: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 300)
Oct 20 11:58:49 moritz-thinkpad kernel: ata2.00: ACPI cmd e3/00:1f:00:00:00:a0 (IDLE) succeeded
Oct 20 11:58:49 moritz-thinkpad kernel: ata2.00: ACPI cmd e3/00:02:00:00:00:a0 (IDLE) succeeded
Oct 20 11:58:49 moritz-thinkpad kernel: ata2.00: ATAPI: HL-DT-STDVDRAM GT30N, LT10, max UDMA/66
Oct 20 11:58:49 moritz-thinkpad kernel: ata2.00: ACPI cmd e3/00:1f:00:00:00:a0 (IDLE) succeeded
Oct 20 11:58:49 moritz-thinkpad kernel: ata2.00: ACPI cmd e3/00:02:00:00:00:a0 (IDLE) succeeded
Oct 20 11:58:49 moritz-thinkpad kernel: ata2.00: configured for UDMA/66
Oct 20 11:58:49 moritz-thinkpad kernel: scsi 1:0:0:0: CD-ROM HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GT30N LT10 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
but when i insert a cd or dvd, this happens:
Oct 20 11:59:09 moritz-thinkpad kernel: ata2.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x50000 action 0x6 frozen
Oct 20 11:59:09 moritz-thinkpad kernel: ata2: SError: { PHYRdyChg CommWake }
Oct 20 11:59:09 moritz-thinkpad kernel: sr 1:0:0:0: CDB:
Oct 20 11:59:09 moritz-thinkpad kernel: cdb[0]=0x51: 51 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00
Oct 20 11:59:09 moritz-thinkpad kernel: ata2.00: cmd a0/00:00:00:02:00/00:00:00:00:00/a0 tag 0 pio 16388 in
res 40/00:00:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/00 Emask 0x4 (timeout)
Oct 20 11:59:09 moritz-thinkpad kernel: ata2.00: status: { DRDY }
Oct 20 11:59:09 moritz-thinkpad kernel: ata2: hard resetting link
Oct 20 11:59:10 moritz-thinkpad kernel: ata2: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300)
Oct 20 11:59:15 moritz-thinkpad kernel: ata2: hard resetting link
Oct 20 11:59:15 moritz-thinkpad kernel: ata2: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300)
Oct 20 11:59:15 moritz-thinkpad kernel: ata2: limiting SATA link speed to 1.5 Gbps
Oct 20 11:59:20 moritz-thinkpad kernel: ata2: hard resetting link
Oct 20 11:59:20 moritz-thinkpad kernel: ata2: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 310)
Oct 20 11:59:20 moritz-thinkpad kernel: ata2.00: disabled
Oct 20 11:59:20 moritz-thinkpad kernel: ata2: EH complete
Oct 20 11:59:20 moritz-thinkpad kernel: sr0: CDROM (ioctl) error, command: cdb[0]=0x51 51 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00
Oct 20 11:59:20 moritz-thinkpad kernel: sr: Sense Key : 0xb [current] [descriptor]
Oct 20 11:59:20 moritz-thinkpad kernel: sr: ASC=0x0 ASCQ=0x0
Anyone has an idea whats going on here?

karol wrote:Looks similar to https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=151016
Thanks i look into this. I rebooted twice since the last update. Will try do downgrade now...
edit:
downgrade works!
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Optical Drive keeps checking for a disk every 5mins

MBP 15" - My optical drive keeps spinning up as if is checking for or reading a disk. There is not one in there. It doesn't seem to be causing any problems, it's just annoying.

dseibold wrote:
MBP 15" - My optical drive keeps spinning up as if is checking for or reading a disk. There is not one in there. It doesn't seem to be causing any problems, it's just annoying.
I was going to begin my own thread about this but I'm glad you've begun one already.
I'm having the same issue as you are and it's quite annoying. It's not only annoying but it makes me worry about the longevity of the motor in the optical drive.
A bit of history -- after my LCD backlight died on my original 2.0GHz MacBook Pro and after 3 repair attempts (all gloriously FAILED) by the Apple Store on Regent Street here in London (flagship store my eye!) it was decided that rather than attempt more repairs Apple would replace the machine. As Apple would only guarantee they'd meet the specs of my previous machine I was given a stock 2.4GHz unibody MBP. I received that machine 4 days ago, Thursday of last week. Out of the box it was exhibiting the phantom disc issues you describe, roughly every 5 minutes. The only time it wasn't making the noise was when I had a disc in the drive.
Assuming it to be a defective optical drive I booked a Genius appointment and the earliest I could get was earlier today. I took the old machine in and between the issue I described with the new machine and the recent repair debacle they decided to swap the new computer for another new one on the spot (which was good as I would have asked for that to happen had they not brought it up). For interest's sake, that first unibody machine also had 2 dead pixels.
Fast forward to when I get back to the flat and unpack the second replacement unit today only to find that after I restore from my Time Machine backup the optical drive is doing the SAME THING again. The new unit also has 3 dead pixels. I will be taking this machine straight back to Apple tomorrow to ask *** is going on and get some satisfaction.
One thing I did find, after some investigation, is that when the optical drive does its phantom ejection, there's a process started. If you watch Activity Monitor (sort by process ID, newest first) you'll see DiskManagementTool kick in when the noise is made. That's a component of Disk Utility however thus far I've not discovered what triggers it or why; however, I wonder if it's anything to do with some component that was on my original MBP that was archived via Time Machine migrated to the new unit. Because I've neither done a clean OS reinstall nor waited past the migration assistant to restore my data, I'm not sure if the drive makes the noise when my backup's not in use but I have this nasty feeling it wouldn't.
Anyone else having this issue, please launch Activity Monitor and keep an eye on it to see if the same process kicks in when the optical drive makes its noise. I suspect others will see that happen, meaning that's the first step in figuring out a solution. It really seems like it's a software issue so it should be fixable.

Why is my hard drive not performing at the maximum Sata II speed? MBP mid-2010 (macbook pro 7,1)

I have a question pertaining to the factory hard drive in this Macbook pro mid-2010 that i have. Currently my system profiler is showing that I am using only 1.5 GB/s of the maximum 3.0 GB/s allowed in the SATA II controller. below are a couple of copy and pastes of the information on my Apple product. Any help would be much appreciated before i have to go to the genius bar and battle it out with them. I am using the operating System: Lion OS X 10.7.2
Best,
James
COMPUTER INFORMATION:
Model Name:          MacBook Pro
Model Identifier:          MacBookPro7,1
Processor Name:          Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed:          2.4 GHz
Number of Processors:          1
Total Number of Cores:          2
L2 Cache:          3 MB
Memory:          8 GB
Bus Speed:          1.07 GHz
Boot ROM Version:          MBP71.0039.B0B
Serial SATA information
NVidia MCP89 AHCI:
Vendor:          NVidia
Product:          MCP89 AHCI
Link Speed:          3 Gigabit
Negotiated Link Speed:          1.5 Gigabit
Description:          AHCI Version 1.30 Supported
Hitachi HTS545025B9SA02:
Capacity:          250.06 GB (250,059,350,016 bytes)
Model:          Hitachi HTS545025B9SA02
Revision:          PB2AC60W
Serial Number:          100917PBL200CSKTY7TN
Native Command Queuing:          Yes
Queue Depth:          32
Removable Media:          No
Detachable Drive:          No
BSD Name:          disk0
Rotational Rate:          5400
Medium Type:          Rotational
Partition Map Type:          GPT (GUID Partition Table)
S.M.A.R.T. status:          Verified
Volumes:
disk0s1:
Capacity:          209.7 MB (209,715,200 bytes)
BSD Name:          disk0s1
Content:          EFI
Machintosh HD:
Capacity:          249.2 GB (249,199,591,424 bytes)
Available:          52.48 GB (52,482,621,440 bytes)
Writable:          Yes
File System:          Journaled HFS+
BSD Name:          disk0s2
Mount Point:          /
Content:          Apple_HFS
Recovery HD:
Capacity:          650 MB (650,002,432 bytes)
BSD Name:          disk0s3
Content:          Apple_Boot

Same problem here, but only on the second SATAII, same mid-2010 MBPro
1st (HD)
NVidia MCP89 AHCI:
Vendor:          NVidia
Product:          MCP89 AHCI
Link Speed:          3 Gigabit
Negotiated Link Speed:          3 Gigabit
Description:          AHCI Version 1.30 Supported
OCZ-AGILITY3:
Capacity:          360.08 GB (360,080,695,296 bytes)
Model:          OCZ-AGILITY3
Revision:          2.150000
Serial Number:          OCZ-2589034J44O258XZ
Native Command Queuing:          Yes
Queue Depth:          32
Removable Media:          No
Detachable Drive:          No
BSD Name:          disk0
Medium Type:          Solid State
TRIM Support:          No
Partition Map Type:          GPT (GUID Partition Table)
S.M.A.R.T. status:          Verified
2nd (Originally Optical Drive)
NVidia MCP89 AHCI:
Vendor:          NVidia
Product:          MCP89 AHCI
Link Speed:          3 Gigabit
Negotiated Link Speed:          1.5 Gigabit
Description:          AHCI Version 1.30 Supported
OCZ-AGILITY3:
Capacity:          360.08 GB (360,080,695,296 bytes)
Model:          OCZ-AGILITY3
Revision:          2.150000
Serial Number:          OCZ-YU4C6H7V6390284T
Native Command Queuing:          Yes
Queue Depth:          32
Removable Media:          No
Detachable Drive:          No
BSD Name:          disk1
Medium Type:          Solid State
TRIM Support:          No
Partition Map Type:          GPT (GUID Partition Table)
S.M.A.R.T. status:          Verified

MBP Optical Drive Speeds...

I have a MacBook Pro 2.33GHz (Core2) with a HL-DT-ST-DVDRW GWA4080MA (AE38). I've been noticing that this drive is pretty **** slow. Since I couldn't find benchmarking programs for Mac, I ran Nero CD/DVD speed tests in Windows XP (BootCamp).
CD Read = 8x
DVD Read = 1.1x
CD Burn (using different brand discs at 40x and 52x) = 8x (to start, but slowed down as it progressed)
I am an Apple fan, but for $2500, I should not have an optical drive that's only slightly faster than my iBook from 2001. What gives?

Interestingly enough, tried another 52x using Toast rather than the finder. It had me at 10x, eventually going to 11x, eventually jumping to 20x, and then flip-flopped from 20x to 21x for the remainder of the 700mb burn. Really. Is this normal? Am I seeing a normal 24x Superdrive (CD-R) at work here? My PowerMac G5's burner seems faster and it, too, is rated at 24x.
Pretty soon, I'll be racing my MBP against another MBP of the same model and see what's up.

Can i upgrade MBP MB466LL/A hard drive to SATA 3 SSD

i have a really good deal on CORSAIR FORSE GT SSD 120 on amazon and i was wandering if my MBP can take the upgrade to SATA 3 SSD alsoi if it take the upgrade how can i move my system from the current HHD to the new SSD drive

yes its unibody and its 3 gb link speed as for my storige its only 30gb
i copied the dicription on the drive below i hope it bring more clues, and is it a good buy to get SSD 3 OR 2
Vendor:          NVidia
Product:          MCP79 AHCI
Link Speed:          3 Gigabit
Negotiated Link Speed:          1.5 Gigabit
Description:          AHCI Version 1.20 Supported
Hitachi HTS543216L9SA02:
Capacity:          160.04 GB (160,041,885,696 bytes)
Model:          Hitachi HTS543216L9SA02
Revision:          FB2AC52F
Serial Number:          090326FBE200LCJVBXUF
Native Command Queuing:          Yes
Queue Depth:          32
Removable Media:          No
Detachable Drive:          No
BSD Name:          disk0
Rotational Rate:          5400
Medium Type:          Rotational
Partition Map Type:          GPT (GUID Partition Table)
S.M.A.R.T. status:          Verified
Volumes:
disk0s1:
Capacity:          209.7 MB (209,715,200 bytes)
BSD Name:          disk0s1
Content:          EFI
Untitled:
Capacity:          159.18 GB (159,182,127,104 bytes)
Available:          126.96 GB (126,960,824,320 bytes)
Writable:          Yes
File System:          Journaled HFS+
BSD Name:          disk0s2
Mount Point:          /
Content:          Apple_HFS
Volume UUID:          4F6BDF40-524D-303D-85D9-75BDF14E0143
Recovery HD:
Capacity:          650 MB (650,002,432 bytes)
BSD Name:          disk0s3
Content:          Apple_Boot
Volume UUID:          1200FB16-7EBE-381C-8C54-C1E4DFCC9C7C

I have tried many times to install a SSD drive by using optical drive tray, my MBP is early 2011, intel serise 6, checked on webpage, and someone say SSD could be installed on HDD drive, I guess it could be solved by driver, anyone good idea?

Hi, MBP friends, any ideas for this problem? I tried hard and checked the hardware we have, and it hardly to say the problem from hardware, instead I am thinking it could be solved by driver update, or someone who is good on computer language that could help with the problem.
My computer is early 2011, with intel serise 6 and sata 3 acceptable. I dont know why the opitical drive can not support ssd drive instead.
need help, I really dont want to put my SSD driver to HDD driver, and move HDD driver to optical driver.

well, i have got information from website, and it says it will be harmful to hdd driver set in optical area coz there is no vibration protection function.
i have checked the system, and it says the sata speed is the same 6G and chip intel series 6. it should be the same speed, right?
I am thinking that the chip is the same and mortherboard is the same, the cable is similar as well, why it doesnt work? driver issue? OSX issue? or software issue? firmware?
or simply to say, if i am trying to setup two ssd driver into MBP, it has to be one in opitcal driver area. how could work?
thanks... still in puzzle.
right now, i have reinstall the osx into ssd by usb external, and install it back with opitcal tray, however, when i turn on the computer, the system can not be logged in from SSD, and computer can not read SSD driver, and it says it must be formatted or push out.

MBP (9,1) Optical Drive SATA link speed?

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