MBP + Cinema Display + TV

Ok so heres my situation.
I have a 15" MBP and would very much like to get a large 30"+ cinema display. Current choices:
30" Apple HD Cinema Display
30" Dell equivalent
or
Sony Bravia HD TV probably 40" though I'm not sure yet.
The reason for my last choice is that i would very much like to be able to watch TV on it, as i don't have a TV in the room I wish the Display to go (so i thought i would kill two birds with one stone, not litterally of course).
Is there any way of hooking the 30" displays to a Digi (Sky) box of some sort, and viewing a TV signal (as obviously they only take the DVI link).
Also if i went for the Sony, what do you think the on screen display quality would be like, when linked to the MBP??
Any suggestions/comments or experiences shard would be very much appreciated....
Thanks
S

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MBP + Cinema Display + TV Moved

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Ok so heres my situation.
I have a 15" MBP and would very much like to get a large 30"+ cinema display. Current choices:
30" Apple HD Cinema Display
30" Dell equivalent
or
Sony Bravia HD TV probably 40" though I'm not sure yet.
The reason for my last choice is that i would very much like to be able to watch TV on it, as i don't have a TV in the room I wish the Display to go (so i thought i would kill two birds with one stone, not litterally of course).
Is there any way of hooking the 30" displays to a Digi (Sky) box of some sort, and viewing a TV signal (as obviously they only take the DVI link).
Also if i went for the Sony, what do you think the on screen display quality would be like, when linked to the MBP??
Any suggestions/comments or experiences shard would be very much appreciated....
Thanks
S

Computers don't limit the output to TVs. The limitation comes from the TV itself. Many manufacturers don't consider us 1% of the market that desire to hook a computer up to a large screen TV and so they don't account for it. Fortunately, this is begining to change.
What you might want to do, when you decide on a specific model number of TV, is search the AV Science Forums (avsforum.com) for that model and see what others have to say about their experience hooking it up to a computer (PC or Mac; doesn't really matter). I believe the new Sonys that are true full HD are working better at this, at least over a VGA connection. The new Sharps (D62U series) are reported to be working over digital connections.
It pays to do research on the TV up front to avoid disappointment.

Connecting MBP & Cinema Display

I just purchased a MBP 2.4 C2D 15" and have a Cinema Display (20") newer aluminum model. What I noticed is that when I use the Cin Display with my MBP and CLOSE the MBP lid (screen) DOWN and use just the Cinema Display, the sleep light on the MBP comes on in a steady light, not pulsing like it does in sleep. So far it goes to sleep and wakes up out of sleep properly - sleep as defined as sleep light pulsating and HD & functions stop.
My powerbook does not do have the sleep come on when I use the cinema display with it. No light comes on as the computer is in use. And I'm concerned there's something wrong with the MBP. Any others out there who have the same set-up PLEASE let me know if the light comes on for you when set up w/ a Cin Display.
I've been on the phone w/ applecare for over an hour and he doesn't know.. now I'm on hold for someone else.. It's got to be a simpler answer than that. Either it's not supposed to do that or it is. Hopefully someone who knows will take the time to respond. Thanks much!
Regards.
This is a rewording of another post I put up, perhaps this is more specific. Thanks.

Well, I think I finally have an answer... I spent 2 hours on the phone w/ applecare (for such a simple question, but no one seemed to have the answer) and it was stated to me that with the MBP, when in clamshell mode, the sleep light does come on (in steady pulse) when using an external monitor. So that's what I'm going with.. So if you're wondering about the same thing as I, this I what I was told from apple (applecare) and she polled several other people who actually use the MBP in this way.

MBP Battery Maintenance Using Cinema Display

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Pulgee wrote:
When using MBP in clamshell mode I read many report no easy way to discharge the battery monthly to preserve it as recommded.
NO, youre NOT supposed to do that!
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http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1490
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Portables with built-in batteries
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Macbook Pro no longer support Apple Cinema Display after graphic update 1.0

I recently updated my system to ver. 10.5.2 and after that I updated to graphic system 1.0. After that my macbook pro began to have several problems dealing with my 23" Apple Cinema Display.
1- if started in 'closed lid' mode it gives me a kernel panic (shaded screen) error during start up
2- if started in 'open lid' mode it boots fine but whether i decide to close the lid it fails to wake from sleep mode. It starts for one or two seconds and then it gets back to sleep.
So, I made a long time taking test during the weekend and after several "archive and install" I found that this issue is related to the leopard graphic system update 1.0. Somehow this update mess up the way that macbook pro deals with my Apple Cinema Display.
I hope that someone at Apple will address this issue toward a solution in a short time.
I appreciate any other experience in this sense by anybody.
Thank you for any reply.

DGarrett wrote:
Virgin,
Check out the 'Apple Displays' forum and you'll find that you are not alone. MBP/Cinema Display relationship broken since graphics updater. Hopefully an Apple patch soon, or it's time for an Archive and Install w/o updating the graphics.
Best,
DG
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http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=981

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Hi,
I'm using a 23" Apple Cinema HD Display as a 2nd monitor hooked up to 17" Macbook Pro 2.8GHz/7i via the mini display port. When I play out ProRes from the timeline with the external display set as Digital Cinema Desktop Preview, the image looks sliced horizontally, approximately in thirds, very noticeable when something is moving. It looks like a refresh issue, parts of the screen showing adjacent frames.
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Hi bogisan
To clarify, I mentioned in my original post that I'd tested with DV and got the same problem...
dewshi wrote:
Actually, it shows the same issue displaying DV-PAL!
Although I'm working with ProRes, I have already experimented with playing out DV on a DV timeline, which should be less demanding than ProRes, as you're suggesting.
It doesn't look to me like the familiar cheese-grater artefact associated with interlacing issue as there's only one break in the image, rather than mismatching alternative lines when there is horizontal motion. I've tried different sequence settings for the field order, with no difference.
I'm wondering if the display is out of sync? It literally looks like the screen has been sliced by a razor 1/3 of the way down, and the bottom part is a different frame to the top. It happens when I scrub through the timeline too, but stabilises once parked on single frame.
By the way, I've also checked that the MBP has switched to the NVIDIA card rather than the slower, less energy consuming Intel video card.
Will check out the MBP forum too...
Thanks

Mid-2012 MBP with 27" Cinema Display SCREEN GOES BLACK WHEN USING USB PERIPHERALS IN DOCK

I haven't been able to find any straightforward answer as to why this is happening and it's becoming one of the most infuriating things in my life, impeding my workflow and costing me unmeasurable time in waiting, rebooting, screwing with cables, etc.
I use my MBP as a DAW for multitracking live audio events to ProTools through a digital console where I work. Here's my gear list that I use every day:
Mid-2012 MBP - Yosemite, 8GB, i7 quad 2.5, mechanical hd
HengeDocks dock for my exact model machine - has set-screw jacks for CinemaDisplay power, Tbolt, FW800, USB, USB, SDcard, headphones, etc
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Anker 1x4 USB3.0 hub - I have a TimeMachine 1TB drive, 3TB project backup drive, audio interface and MIDI I/O or PT iLok, depending what I'm working on
Magic Mouse (BlueTooth)
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SCENARIO 2 - Install cD powercon, TBolt connector, USB3 hub, USB keyboard into the dock, close the lid on MBP (again, logged in), insert into dock... cD comes up, looks great for about 15 seconds then goes completely blank. No response from key presses, mouse clicks, threats with a hammer, etc. Then, of course, I have to yank the MBP out of the dock, which hard-disconnects the external drives (backup and TimeMachine... good for them, right?) and causes the MBP to flake, thinking it's still in the dock, then not, then logging me out & requiring a password (not a big deal- I deal with copyrighted stuff, so passwords aren't the issue).
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***??? In 20 years of owning Mac equipment, this is my first major "uh-oh".

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Hello Sigh
I am sure there is no way to get your ADC connector display to function with your new Mac Book Pro.
I tried everying I could and gave up and purchased a 24" Apple refurbbished Cinema Display for $599 + tax on 4/27/2011. The Apple part number is FBXXXXL/A, Model A1287.
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d
Sent- Tuesday, August 9, 2011-- 3:49 PM(Pacific Time)
Don Macdonald
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Re: How do I connect a new Thunderbolt MBP to and old 23" HD Cinema Display ADC port Jul 8, 2011 4:58 PM (in response to Russy47)
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My dream is to have it like my old laptop--I mostly leave it shut, and main display is on the Cinema Display. So far, if I close the laptop lid on my new MBP, display shuts off. Also, can't get it to bump up the resolution to 1920.
Sigh.

Share Cinema Display and peripherals with MBP and PC

Share Cinema Display and peripherals with MBP and PC
I am about to be forced to use a business network connected PC in my office, but I will continue to bring my personal MacBook Pro to work for my personal e-mail, calendar, internet, etc. (it will be connected to a seperate open DSL network). I am thinking about getting an Apple Cinema display and trying to use this one display for both computers. I would like a way to "switch back and forth" between the two systems, all the while using the same mouse, keyboard, printer and Cinema display.
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Thanks so much!

You can use synergy (link: http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/) to link the mouse and keyboard across the two platforms.
If you want to use only one display, you'll need a KVM switch.
You can run the MBP either with it's own screen open, or shut it and use only the external screen.
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