MBP is hot topic

I see so many 2011 Macbook Pro heat issue threads, but no resolution of what is too hot. My question is: When I set up this laptop within the hour of unboxing it and run it under stress, what figure (in celcius) should I be on the look out for? In other words, what figure should I think about returning it for a possibly cooler beast of an i7?
Edit: the model I will be collecting is the 2.2ghz, 15 inch.
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Bonsai: Your three melted power cables had nothing whatsoever to do with the internal temperature of your MBP, and your damaged screen may (we have no idea, because you've shared no details) have resulted from your interfering with adequate air circulation around and through the machine. Or your machine's cooling system may really have malfunctioned — again, we can't know. But all MBPs are designed to shut down before they reach damaging temperatures — not afterward — and they're all designed to maintain themselves within a safe operating temperature range as long as they're used in accordance with the instructions in the user's guide...which, of course, most users never bother to read, so they don't know what it says.

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Your handle is newbieDBA whereas you claimed to be OCP and on the track of RAC certification.
Where's the truth ? To my point of view, you cannot be a newbie and OCP. There's a paradox. At the least.
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MBP running hot, full fans and sluggish with both Safari and Firefox

Hi guya,
Im having problems with my kate 2007 MBP.
Im sure lately it seems to be running slower and slower and more and more sluggish - I was hoping my Mac wouldn't be subject to "slowdown" like every PC ive ever owned has.
The biggest problem is that if i use either Safari or Firefox to browse the web, they quickly start using 80-100% of my processor causing everything else to run sluggish, the computer to get hot, processors to run up to 90 degrees and fans on full.
Perhaps i multitask more than some people - I can tend ot have a lot of tabs open in Firefox, but sometimes Safari or Firefox show this behaviour with just one tab open.
I do multitask by having about 8 programs open at once and I jump from job to job, but in its early life the MBP used to deal with this - now i feel that i type faster than writing appears on screen, i have to wait ages to work in programs like indesign, and forget trying to run a game like The Sims...
Does everyone else have the 100% processor problems with Safari (and yes im on version 4, and the latest version of firefox too) the only browser which doesn't give me these problems is Opera - I can have many tabs open and it uses very little CPU, I just dont like use Opera as much as Firefox which is my browser of choice.
But why would my OSX run differently to anyone elses? Is there a problem with my Macbook, is there a problem with OSX (does it need installing again?) Is it just time for me to buy a new Macbook Pro - or if I run firefox on that will i get the same problem? Ive got nearly 30gb of spare HD space and maxed it out with 4gb of Ram - so neither of those are causing a problem either...
Any input would be great...

Have you tried restarting the comp? Sometimes a simple refresh will cure the sluggishness.
Try running repair permissions from your HD and afterwards run +repair disk+ from your software install DVD.
Regarding your comp running hot, make sure it is properly ventilated while in use. The MBP is not a laptop. According to the user manual it states in part:
+"Do not operate your MacBook Pro on a pillow or other soft material, as the material can block the airflow vents. Never place anything over the keyboard when operating your MacBook Pro. Never push objects into the ventilation openings."+

My MBP runs hot in the boot volume selection menu

I noticed that when I start my MBP holding shift to get to the boot volume selection menu and leave it there for 15 minutes or so (might be shorter, I was gone both times that it's happened so far) the MBP gets unusually hot (almost too hot to touch between keyboard and screen) and I can hear the fans going much faster and louder than they should be (I think). After choosing one of the boot volumes and checking the temperatures in iStat Pro I see that the CPU is at just under 70°C. A few minutes later the temperatures go down by about 10°C and the fans quiet down running at the usual 2000rpm.
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After Mavericks Install, MBP runs hot all the time

Im sure this has been said all over the community but I have to add my two cents. My 2011 MBP was perfect on Mtn Lion. I started the update which failed on install, which I then had to wipe the HD and do a fresh install. My time machine backup wouldnt even restore, that was a fun night let me tell you. Anyways, ever since I installed Mavericks, not only do I have the service battery issue everyone else has but now even running firefox or watching a movie will make the laptop run super hot and the fans start going. Ive even had the MBP shut itself down twice b/c of the overheating. Example: I almost couldnt even get time machine to make a new first time backup b/c the laptop starting running hot during the backup and it shut itself down. The second attempt worked but it sure seemed like it was on the verge of shutting down again. I just tried resetting the SMC but I dont think it did anything if you want my honest opinion.
I hope apple is listening and realizes what mess mavericks is making of our older macbooks.

I did do the verify/repair disk, and there is nothing wrong with the disk. Havent had a chance yet to boot in safe mode. Will post an update shortly but in the meantime:
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          NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT - VRAM: 512 MB
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          AirPlay: Version: 1.9
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                    Macintosh HD (disk0s2) /: 255.2 GB (169.85 GB free)
                    Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>: 650 MB
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                    Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller
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When my MBP is hot, the trackpad opens a contextual menu when i click

Hello all,
I have been having an issue with my late 2008 MBP for some time now. When i have been using it for a few hours and it is a bit hot, the trackpad will suddenly interpret single clicks as right click.
You probably think that i accidentaly put several fingers on my trackpad, but it is not so. When this starts happening, the problem remains for one minute or more, during which, for example, i can be careful to just click with a single finger, and wherever i may be (a window bar, for instance), boom, a contextual menu opens. This is rather annoying when i'm working without a mouse, because if i want to grab an item to move it, well, it's just not possible. It returns to the normal behaviour after a while.
It seems to occur more frequently when i am using inDesign CS4, but that is probably just because i use it a lot...
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You have posted in the wrong forum. Try posting in the forum for the product you are trying to use.
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2007 MBP Running Hot and Freezing occasionally after 10.6.3

This is obviously not normal. Anyone else experiencing this or know of the cause or a fix?
It's gotten so hot I've resorted to placing a towel in my lap. iStat says the CPU is running at 148 degrees, all the time, with the GPU frequently hitting 160, and both fans are running full bore.
The freezes come and go, and usually only last for 20-30 seconds, but when they do pop up, they happen frequently, as many as 10 times per hour.
I don't think I am doing anything differently than I have always done. No new software, etc.
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I don't have 10.6 on anything but I believe this works for SL. In Applications > Utilities you will find Activity Monitor (hereafter AM to avoid the extra typing). Launch it and look at its "Show" selector at the top of the window. By default, AM launches to "User Processes" and that seldom shows enough. Change it to "All Processes" to get a good look at the true background picture.
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Processes with "mds" in the name are related to Spotlight indexing but don't run that often after the initial install. If "syslogd" is running at high numbers, something is writing a bunch of stuff to system.log. I had that happen on my MBP with the demo for the game "Prey." Even when the computer was only idling, the demo continued to write to the log file and ballooned it from its usual size of ~250K to over 60MB, and ran the heat up to boot. Deleting the demo and a restart cured that insanity.
I found a process related to Safari 4 called Safari Webpage Preview Fetcher that ran a lot. It's how Tops Sites gets page previews. I now avoid using Tops Sites, especially on our slower G4 Macs which constitute the majority of our household Mac-ness. That process really gummed the works in those older Macs, all running 10.4.11.
You might want to repeat the question in the Snow Leopard forums. Someone more familiar with SL may see a pattern in the shutdowns and stalls. The 10.6 forums are here:
http://discussions.apple.com/category.jspa?categoryID=263
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MBP feel hot when using it during charging

I wonder is it normal? Is MBP is good to be use during charging time because I can feel kinda hot at the left.

Suggestions?
Get it fixed obviously, and don't use it in the meantime, so you don't shock or burn yourself.

My MBP really hot and really slow recently

Hi,
My MBP has become really hot and noticably slower recently (within the last 4-5 months). Before I could keep it on my lap for hours watching video using VLC and run a bunch of other applications (like Safari, Firefox, iTERM, Nisus Writer Pro, TextMate, etc.) without it getting unbearable.
Now, even when it's nearly idle (running just Safari, with Quicksilver in the background) the temperature is around 130 deg. Fahrenheit, give or take 10 degrees. And the usually silent fans continuously give out an evil hiss.
The only changes I made to the MBP within that time are:
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2. Added growl (which I turned off for now)
3. Purchased some software via MacHeist, which includes:
acorn,
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The only things I run in the background and/or login items are:
1. Font Agent's font activator
2. Quicksilver
3. iTunes Helper
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6. Expandrive
7. Little Snitch
8. MacFuse
Also my wireless connection to the USB drive on my AEBS seem to have slowed a lot too. At one point, I was reading and writing to it at almost the same speed as if it were plugged directly into my MBP's USB port. Now, it's around regular ethernet speed (not fast ethernet, nor gigabit, just regular 11Mbps).
Anyone have any idea? I'm thinking of just reinstalling from the 10.5.2 DVD I have, but that means I have to backup everything and I know I'll lose something during the process, because I have a WD 320GB disk and have used it all up except for about 10GB. It's gonna take a good part of a day (or two) to do the complete reinstall.
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Yes, you need more free space on your HDD, for sure. But...
Let's back up a minute. I just re-read your original post - 130 °F is NOT hot. That's barely warm. Most of us are used to looking at temps in Celsius (at least, I am). 130 °F = ~55 °C. My CPU is at 49 °C right now, 5 minutes after waking the machine up from an overnight sleep in a cool downstairs office. Normal MBP idling temps are in the mid 50s °C (the 130s °F), so you are most definitely not having a temperature issue. Running a heavy CPU load will push the temps into the 70-80 °C range (160-175 °F); fans normally don't spin up past idle speed until the CPU/GPU temps are in the 70s °C (your idle speed is 2000 rpm).
So, if the fans are making an 'evil hiss' that's not due to temperature.
To conclude - your initial issues were 1) really hot, 2) noticeably slower and 3) an evil hiss from the fans. So, #1 is a non-issue, since your temps are quite normal. #2 is most likely due to lack of HDD free space (you've run out of room for virtual memory and swap files). That leaves #3 - just how evil is that hiss? What fan speeds does your monitoring software (iStat Pro, for example) report?
Have you run the Apple Hardware Test? (Insert Install DVD 1 and reboot with the d key pressed.) That will check out your fans, sensors, etc.

Does the new MBP run hot?

I'm looking to buy the new MBP 15". Does anyone know if it runs hot? My current white polycarbonate first generation Intel Macbook always runs ridiculously hot.
Thanks!

Picked up a new 15" very recently. Subjective heat evaluation:
9400M: Very cool during general use (web browsing/email/etc...) Warm during gaming (WoW).
9600M GT: Warm during general use. Hot during gaming. VERY hot in Windows, gaming or not.
Of note, Windows only sees the 9600M GT, and gets uncomfortably hot (to the point I'm not only uncomfortable using it on my lap, but feel like I ought to be pointing a fan at the bottom-left (where the GPU is located).
The laptop was never uncomfortable on the 9400M, even while running WoW with the laptop directly on my lap. Just pleasantly warm. Same circumstances with the 9600M GT enabled I needed to throw a lapdesk under it, but it didn't get nearly as hot as under Windows.

Sleep makes MBP very hot.

10.4.11
Most times, it seems, when the MBP is put to sleep, it is very hot when I pick it up, later. anyone else experiencing this?

This has happened to me a couple of times too. According to my IStat widget, it's the CPU and CPU heat sink which are hot. The explanations in other replies that talk about some process hanging up seem the most logical. Another indicator is that upon wake-up from this scenario, a shutdown takes an unusually long time. Unfortunately when I came upon my computer in this state, I didn't think to run the IStat widget which would have told me what the CPU was doing.
Though this may be wrong (more learned advice welcome), I take some comfort in the fact that the temperatures, though hot, were within ranges told to me by folks on this same discussion forum as being tolerable -- roughly 60-70 degrees centigrade.

Screen "marks"appear when MBP gets hot

i know i started a thread yesterday but this is different, my MBP gets really hot when playing video games, to the point where the middle of the screen at the bottom gets really hot, it sometimes leaves "marks" in the form of a line and little mountain ranges of lighter than black colors at the bottom. sometimes it goes away but other times i can still see the line when there is a black background. im getting a cooling pad for sure on boxing day. hopefully i have not damaged the screen yet.

It is still under warranty, I would take it to an Apple Retail Store or an Apple Authorized Service Provider (AASP) for evaluation, or call your nearest Apple Contact Center.

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Where does everyone's MBP get hot?

All,
I have another similar post, so I apologize for this, but I am wondering where everyone notices the heat on their MBP the most? Bottom? Top? Above function keys?
The reason I ask is b/c I recently had my logic board replaced by a local authorized apple repair center. Just as an aside, the job was done in about 3 hours and I was only without my MBP for an afternoon. On the other side, this could be part of the problem . . .
Anyway, after the LB replacement, I have noticed a SUBSTANTIAL heat increase on the left side of my MBP. Specifically, the left palm rest gets considerably hotter than the right and the left speaker grill up by the ESC key and above the function keys is almost too hot to touch. I am a little concerned that something might not have been done right when the LB was replaced.
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Nope, mine stays cool anywhere 'below' the keyboard unless I'm burning a DVD or CD at full speed (4x). I think if you didn't have this heat before you got your logic board replaced I would take it back to the fracking geniuses.
(I'm glad there's nothing wrong with my McBook Pro [geez it's the same quality as McDonalds, seems like] or else I would have to take it to the stupid geniuses everyday).
EDIT: have you tried resetting the PMU?

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