MD04 whem returns Third-party sales

Srs,
I have a process where they generate a sales process whith sales order and billing and second monent a sales order , with shipping and billing.
Our process is MTO and therefore the first step I generate the need for production in MD04. If the order must be returned billing (first stage), is no longer generated the need for production.
It is possible to do this in standard SAP?
Thanks
Filipe Borges

Hello Felipe
Not fully sure about what you needed when you say 'If the order must be returned billing (first stage)'. Please provide more details.
But here are my initial thoughts:
1) Do you know at the time of order entry, whether the item needs to be produced or not. Can you not use Item categories- You can manually change item categories- to control the requirements as needed?
2) You can also use a custom routine for transfer of requirements - T code OVB8. Will it be of any use.
Hope this helps. Let us know more about what is needed.

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Return process in Third Party Sales

Hi ppl need some help,
In Third party Sales what happens if certain goods supplied by the Vendor to the customer are 'Defective' & are to be returned by the customer.
Does the customer return it to the Company to which he placed the order or he returns it to the Vendor.
How can we configure this process in SAP to settle the billing & issue the credit memo to the customer?
Shilpi

Hi Shilpi,
third party Return process you can configure like this,
Take return goods from ur customer, Your customer will return goods to you and not to vendor, remember one thing ur cutomer doesnt know who is vendor.
Create CR with refeerence to RE. Because RE will contain that Product and quantity which you ar getting back from the Customer and that you have invoiced the customer.
E.G. If you Sent 2 Quantiy of Materail XYZ at 50 Rs each to the customer, but you Got invoice from ur vendor at 40 Rs Each.
and if customer retuirn 1 quantity u have to return him 50 Rs and not 40 Rs.
So Create CR with respect to RE.
Hope this will help.
Revert back if u need any further help.
Thanks,
Raja

Return Sales of Third Party Sales

Dear Guru's,
My scenario is that I have done Third Party Sales with Shipping Notification (Sale Ord - PR - PO - MIGO - MIRO - Cust. Invoice) in SAP System. According to this vendor has delivered the material to the customer but customer found some damage to the material
and now the customer wants to return this material and also required credit for paid amount. So whom should the customer send this complaint (ofcorz to the company) and how the company will handle this return process to provide the credit to the customer.
Company can convince the customer for subsequent free of charge delivery also but tell me how that flow would be in SAP.
I have to map this with correct Financial impacts. Please Guru's guide me on the above scenario and if you need some more input
please ask me. Suggestions are also welcome.
regards,
Vojas

Dear Vojas,
You can ask your client as to how they process practically in this scenario.
You can do...
Create return sales order wrt original SO or Billing doc. --> Create return delivery with move. type 651. So there will not be any accounting doc. created --> then wrt return SO you can create credit memo or if the customer agrees, company can deliver free of charge material
Then
Create Subsequent FOC SO wrt original SO -
Here For this FOC SO, at schedule line VOV6, assign Order type as NB- PR and Item category as 5. So again PR will be created and you can process like normal Third party process. Here you will not bill the customer.
Hope you get some inputs
regards,
Sagar

Third Party Sales Returns process

Hello All
We have a third-party sales process which is automated i.e Sales order and Purchase requisitions(VA01) are created using the data coming in the incoming EDI file, the Purchase requisition is automatically converted to a Purchase order, the Invoice Reciept(MIRO) is posted and the Sales Invoice (VF01) is posted.
The question is how do we handle the Returns or the Credit process?
Is there a way I can configure the system to create a Returns order which will also update the Pur.Req quantity then the Purchase order quantity or directly the Purchase order quantity. I can then use this information to raise a credit to the Vendor Invoice.
I don't want to just raise a credit memo and update the sales side and leave the purchase side open.
I appreciate your reply.
Best Regards
Rama

Third Party Return Process
Please check this extract from the sap library :
If the vendor grants you a credit memo on a quantity or a value basis, you can then send this credit memo directly to your customer.
The billing type Third-party credit memo (G2S) is available for this. The billing type Third-party credit memo works with the item category TASG (third-party credit memo item). The Billing-relevance indicator F is set in Customizing for Sales for this item category. This means that the cost is not created. In Customizing for Sales, the item category TASG is set at item level in copying control for the billing type G2S (copying control sales document by billing document) as the target item category (source: TAS-> Target:> TASG.)
Process Flow
Create a billing documente with billing type Third-party credit memo (for further information, see the section Creating a billing document in the Billing document). Enter the third-party order as a document still to be processed. The quantities are automatically removed from the invoice.
The above is the process for giving a credit memo which can be adapted for return goods.
Regards,
Rajesh Banka
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Returns for Third-Party Sales

Hello Gurus
Could anybody give a step by step procedure for How does Returns take place in Third party Sales?

Dear Nadarajah,
thank you for your information. But I can only confirm again that officially this process is not supported by SAP. There have been many attempts to bring this functionality into the standard ( as the SAP employee working in this area I know this very well), but there have been always some technical problems or limitations which would do it impossible to release this functionality to the customer. The returns for the third-party order is therefore officially a not supported process at SAP ERP. The SAP note above documents this.
Be careful with workarounds, they can have many critical restrictions or limitations here. I am sorry that I cannot give you a more positive response.
But I hope that this info helps a little bit further.
Kind regards,
Akmal Vakhidov
Development Support IMs SD, SAP, Walldorf/Germany

Process Required for Third party sales

Hi Guru ji's ,
Pls let me know the step by step procedure for Third party sales processing.
on the below conditions.
1] Sales order to be created automatically based on the Bapi .
2] Based on the Sales order, automatic Purchase order and Gr must happen.
3] Automatic invoices must also be created automatically.
Can any one explain us what is to be done under the above said conditions,
Best Regards,
Gurpreet Singh Saini.

Hi
Please find enclosed the details on third party.
Process Flow for 3rd Party Sales
Customize the third party sales in summary:
1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material u2013 Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
4. A sale order is created and when saved a PR is generated at the background
5. With reference to SO a PO is created (ME21N). The company raises PO to the vendor.
6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO
7. Goods receipt MIGO
8. Goods issue
9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and,   therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
10. Billing      *-- Seema Dhar
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Sales Order
VA01
      Order Type
      Sales org, distr chnl, div
      Enter
      Sold to
      PO #
      Material
      Quantity
      Enter
      Save
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created with a third party sales order
VA01
      Order Number
      Goto Item Overview
      Item ->Schedule Item
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created
ME52N
      Key in the PR number
      Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Assign the PR to the vendor and create PO
ME57
      Key in the PR number
      Toggle the "Assigned Purchase Requisition"
      Execute
      Check the box next to the material
      Assign Automatically button
      Click on "Assignments" button
      Click on "Process assignment"
      The "Process Assignment Create PO" box , enter
      Drag the PR and drop in the shopping basket
      Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Receive Goods
MIGO_GR
      PO Number
      DN Number
      Batch tab , click on classification
      Serial Numbers tab
      Date of Production
      Flag Item OK
      Check, just in case
      Post
      Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Invoice
MIRO
      Invoice Date
      Look for the PO , state the vendor and the Material
      Check the box
      Clilck on "Copy"
      Purchase Order Number (bottom half of the screen)
      Amount
      State the baseline date
      Simulate & Post
      Invoice Number
      *Invoice blocked due to date variance
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a delivery order
VL01N
      In the order screen , go to the menu Sales Document , select "Deliver"
      Go to "picking" tab
      State the qty and save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a billing document
VF01
      Ensure that the delivery document is correct in the
      Enter
      Go to edit -> Log
      Save
Third party Return Process
If the vendor grants you a credit memo on a quantity or a value basis, you can then send this credit memo directly to your customer.
The billing type Third-party credit memo (G2S) is available for this. The billing type Third-party credit memo works with the item category TASG (third-party credit memo item). The Billing-relevance indicator F is set in Customizing for Sales for this item category. This means that the cost is not created. In Customizing for Sales, the item category TASG is set at item level in copying control for the billing type G2S (copying control sales document by billing document) as the target item category (source: TAS-> Target:> TASG.)
Process Flow
Create a billing documente with billing type Third-party credit memo (for further information, see the section Creating a billing document in the Billing document). Enter the third-party order as a document still to be processed. The quantities are automatically removed from the invoice.
The above is the process for giving a credit memo which can be adapted for return goods.
Hope it will help you

Purchase Requestion for Third Party Sales Order

Hello Team
I want the system to create Purchase Requisition automatically and some times Manually (Possible if both Option are available) for the Sales Order which belongs to Third Party.
How to achieve this?
Thanks
Nick

Hi Nick
Following are the steps of third party:
1) Creation of third party sales order
2) Generation of automatic purchase reqisition through the configuration of schedule line CS in SD.(schedule line is determined by the item categoty and the mrp type.
please dont maintain mrp type in the material master.so that it will determin CS directly.
in the tcode VOV6,please check whether the document type NB is maintained for CS.
This will created auto PR).
3) You can check the PR Number in the schedule line tab of sales order.PR requirement will not be available in the MD04.
4) Manually create a PO for vendor with item category S.
5) There will be no GR in this case.
6) Create an invoice verification document.
7) Create an invoice from the SD side w.r.t Sales order.
Hope this might have answered ur question
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STO's INTER / INTRA & THIRD PARTY SALES

Dear friends!! plz clear my doubts in the following : -
1) in STO cross comp, internal customer required and doc flow is like NBNLCCF2
and my doubt is whether pricing comes to F2 from NB with MM pricing procedure? Does Doc.PP should be assigned to F2 here??
2)in STO intra comp, internal customer is not required and doc flow is like UBNLJEX and pricing is triggered from UB with MM pricing procedure? Does SD Pricing procedure is required or not? SD pricing procd determinaion is required??
3)In Third paarty sales how we got to know that how much stock is delivered by vendor to customer? as we are doing order related billing? is there any other things then migo and miro?
Pls let me know the things clearly.
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9916362878

Hi ,
Following are the steps of third party:
1) Creation of third party sales order
2) Generation of automatic purchase reqisition throught the configuration of schedule line CS in SD.
3) You can check the PR Number in the schedule line tab of sales order.PR requirement will not be available in the MD04.
4) Manually create a PO for vendor with item category S.
5) There will be no GR in this case.
6) Create an invoice verification document.
7) Create an invoice from the SD side w.r.t Sales order.
Sail

Cannot do MIGO in Third Party Sales Process with shipping notification

In the Third party sales process with Shipping notification,the item category for the material is TAS (Billing relevance=R),item category group is BANS.
Intially sales order is created,then using me21n with reference to purchase requisation purchase order is created,then in MIGO stage i used the PO No there but i get the message no item found in PO.
what adjustment have to be done in order to do MIGO

Refer following SDN thread, by that you will be able to get overview on best practices about Third Party Sales & necessary configuration you need to follow for statistical GR:
- Third party direct shipment (II)
Further maintain Billing Relevance for Item Category as G - Order-related billing of the delivery quantity.
Regards
JP

Accounting Entries hit in Third party Sales Process

Hi,
Can anybody tell which accounting entries are hit when we create the following entries in third party sales process
1.When Sales Order is created.
2.When PR is Created
3.When ME21N is done
4.MIGO
5.MIRO
please provide your valuable suggestion..
Thanks...

Hi,
1. When Sales Order is created.
No FI Entry
2. When PR is Created
No FI Entry
3. When ME21N is done
No FI Entry
4. MIGO
(GBB-VAY) COGS - 3rd Party A/c - Dr
(WRX) GR/IR Clearing A/c - Cr
5. MIRO
Vendor Account - Cr
GR/IR Clearing A/c - Dr
6. VF01
Customer Account - Dr
Sales Revenue A/c - Cr

GR date (MIGO) as the Billing date in Third Party Sale

Dear All,
I have a scenario where the GR date should be the billing date in third party sale.
Can it be accomplished by any user exits of billing? Please share your ideas and if this can be done through user exit, please name the user exit.
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Ipsit

hi,
read sales order number or PO number or get the information from document flow of VBFA if pO exists thengo to PO history in EKBE table if BWART - 101 then trigger billing document with reference to SALES ORDER on the same day.
for that you need to create a Back Ground Job in SM36.
balajia

In Third party sales, Part of MM..?

Hi guru's
Can explain about third party sales and what is major part of work for MM in that.
1.Please send me the overall flow in Third party sales process with Transaction codes.
thanks
sap-mm

THIRD PARTY SCENARIO
in third-party order processing, your company does not deliver the items requested by a customer. Instead, you pass the order along to a third-party vendor who then ships the goods directly to the customer and bills you. A sales order may consist partly or wholly of third-party items. Occasionally, you may need to let a vendor deliver items you would normally deliver yourself.
Process Flow
the processing of third-party orders is controlled via material types. Material types define whether a material is produced only internally can be ordered only from third-party vendors, or whether both are possible. For example, a material that is defined as a trading good can only be ordered from a third-party vendor. However, if you manufacture your own finished products, you may also want, from time to time, to be able to order the same type of product from other vendors.
Processing Third-Party Orders in Sales
Third-party items can be created automatically by the system, depending on how your system is set. However, you can also change a standard item to a third-party item during sales processing manually.
Automatic third-party order processing:-
if a material is always delivered from one or more third-party vendors, you can specify in the material master that the material is a third-party item. During subsequent sales order processing, the system automatically determines the appropriate item category for a third-party item: TAS. To specify a material as a third-party item, enter BANS in the Item category group field in the Sales 2 screen of the material master record.
Manual third-party order processing
In the case of a material that you normally deliver yourself but occasionally need to order from a third-party vendor, you can overwrite the item category during sales order processing. For a material that you normally deliver yourself, you specify the item category group NORM in the material master.
If, as an exception, you use a third-party material, change the entry TAN to TAS in the ItCa field when processing the sales document. The item is then processed as third-party item.
If address data for the ship-to party is changed in the sales order in third-party business transactions, the changed data will automatically be passed on to purchase requisition and also to the purchase order ,if one already exists. In the purchase order, you can display the address data for the ship-to party in the attributes for the item.
You can only change the address data for the ship-to party in the sales order for third-party business transactions, and not in the purchase order.
Processing Third-Party Orders in Purchasing
when you save a sales order that contains one or more third-party items, the system automatically creates a purchase requisition in Purchasing. Each third-party item in a sales order automatically generates a corresponding purchase requisition item. During creation of the requisition, the system automatically determines a vendor for each requisition item. If a sales order item has more than one schedule line, the system creates a purchase requisition item for each schedule line.
Purchase orders are created from purchase requisitions in the usual way. For more information about creating purchase orders, see the Purchasing documentation. During creation of the purchase order, the system automatically copies the delivery address of your customer from the corresponding sales order. In a sales order, you can enter purchase order texts for each third-party item. When you create the corresponding purchase order, the texts are automatically copied into the purchase order. The number of the purchase order appears in the document flow information of the sales order.
All changes made in the purchase order are automatically made in the sales order as well. For example, if the vendor confirms quantities and delivery dates different from those you request and enters them in the purchase order, the revised data is automatically copied into the sales order
you process third-party items by creating a normal sales order. In overview for the order, you can then overwrite the default item category (TAN in the standard system) with the special item category for third-party items: TAS
Billing Third-Party Orders
If relevance for billing indicator for the item category has been set to B (relevant for order-related billing on the basis of the order quantity) in Customizing, the system includes the order in the billing due list immediately. If, however, the indicator has been set to F (relevant to order-related billing on the basis of the invoice quantity), the system does not include the order in the billing due list until an invoice from the vendor has been received and processed by the purchasing department. In the standard system, item category TAS (third-party order processing) has been given billing-relevance indicator F.
In the first case, the third-party order is considered to be completely billed only when the invoiced quantity equals the order quantity of the sales order item. In the second case, each time a vendor invoice is received, a customer invoice is created for the quantity in the vendor invoice and the order is considered to be fully invoiced until the next vendor invoice is received.
If you have activated billing-relevance indicator F for item categories in Customizing, billing can refer to the goods receipt quantity instead of the incoming invoice quantity.
You can control whether the invoice receipt quantity or the quantity of goods received is relevant for billing in Customizing for copying control for billing at item level.
FOR YOUR PROCESS Individual Purchase Orders WELL GIVE THE RIGHT SOLUTION
Individual purchase orders are used when your customer orders goods from you that are not in stock and must be ordered from one or more external vendors.
Process Flow
During sales order entry, the system automatically creates a purchase requisition item. The purchasing department creates a purchase order based on the requisition and the vendor ships the goods directly to you (unlike third party order processing, where the vendor ships directly to your customer). You then ship the goods to your customer. While the goods are part of your inventory, you manage them as part of the sales order stock. Sales order stock consists of stock that is assigned to specific sales orders and cannot be used for other purposes.
Process Flow for 3rd Party Sales
Customize the third party sales in summary:
Prerequisites for 3rd party sales,
Purchasing org,
purchasing group,
assign the Purchase org to company code
assign Purchase org to plant,
should not maintain the stock in material, it should be trading goods,
1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
4. A sale order is created and when saved a PR is generated at the background
5. With reference to SO a PO is created (ME21N). The company raises PO to the vendor.
6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO
7. Goods receipt MIGO
8. Goods issue
9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and, therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
10. Billing *--
i think this will be helpful to you

In third party sales order process how business come to know that the vend

Hi SD Gurus,
In third party sales order process how business come to know that the vendor has delivery the goods to the customer?
Where Business will check whether Vendor has delivered the goods or not to the customer?
Thanks & Regards,
Nivas

Hi,
Process
VA01 - Create sales order (Schedule line CS and item category TAS) >> ME52N - PR is generated after save of sales order >> ME21N - Convert PR in to P.O >> Then vendor will send goods to customer and will send invoice to our company >> MIRO - Invoice receipt from vendor >> VF01 - Final invoice to customer
When you enter vendor invoice then you come to know that vendor sent qty. same will be billed to customer(Billing relevance in item category should be F)
Kapil

Third party sales orders are not showing in Billing due list (VF04 )

Hi,
In Billing due list Third party sales orders are not appearing because VKDFS table those entries are there. How can we get Third party sales orders in VKDFS table as well as VF04 ?
Please suggest me.
Regards,
KUR

Hi Kur & Sandepp,
Check this notes:A) Note 210500 - Billing status of a third-party item,B)2) Note 210561 - When is a third-party item displayed in VF04.
Re
Regards,
Madhu.

Credit Management not working for Third Party Sale

Hi Experts,
We have a scenario of Third party sale where sales order generate purchase requision after saving. Now we have appled static credit check to the customer, at the time of saving sales document it warns credit limit is over same time it doesn't allow to save, displaying incompletion log - " Subsequent function 'Purchase requisition from sales document' not possible due to a credit block".
Pl. suggest us, since it is third party sale no delivery is available, so we cann't apply credit check at the time of delivery also.So what would be the solution.
Kindly help.
Thanks
Prashant Ray

Hi Prashant,
Check in FD32 what is the credit limit and try to do the cahnges there if required.
Also you can relase the SO through VKM3 / 2 /4.This will allow you to releasea nd the save the SO.
Hope it helps
Regards
Rohit.

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