MDM WF's Vs BPM and CAF GP

Hi All,
How are MDM WF's positioned against BPM and CAF GP in terms of performance, flexibility, capability? Which WF should be preferred over others?
Thanks.
AK

Hi Abhishek,
If we compare three of them then theBPM/GP would be more powerfull than MDM Workflow because we can design a very complex workflow in BPM/GP that spans accross Systems (Not Only MDM) and customisation can be achived easily in them. MDM workflow are best suited if you are having a simple workflow that spas MDM system only.
BPM is the latest in the market and hve several unique features that are not available in other two. like Automatic Notifications, Dynamic Rules, Graphical Modeling based on BPMN standards.
Hope this helps!!
Cheers,
Arafat

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See, I assume that you understand the different steps of MDM workflow, like Assign, Validate, Branch, Start, Stop etc.
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can I get this information from MDM level by any means, saying can we get the records which failed during validation
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