MDS 9513 in a Telco Rack?

We recently purchased 2 - MDS 9513 SAN switches. The only place to install them in our data center is in 2 Telco racks. I realize this is unsupported and we are on our own in terms of how to physically install this. We have placed one on a shelf and are looking for a way to secure or fasten the system to the rack somehow. The mounting ears can't be used because the unit is too deep to be flush mounted.
Has anyone out there been forced to use a Telco rack? If so, do you have any ideas on how to fasten to the rack?
Thanks

Jose,
can't you move the ears back? I just looked at our 9513's and there are what appear to be two more sets of holes on the sides for the ears. This is a picture of one or our 9509's in a telco rack and it came with the big plates that bolt to the telco rack that the switch sits on for this kind of mounting. I believe the 9513 (and 9509) chasiss are the same as the big Catalyst switches and we have those telco rack mounted all over the place so I bet you could get some of these mounting plates from Cisco (or your reseller.)

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There is no separate command required on MDS switches for a graceful
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Disengage the power or down the power source feeding the MDS to
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I am new to Cisco Fabric Concepts. In my enviornment i have a F port channel(8 Port Group) created on MDS 9513 switch and this Fport
channel is connected to Cisco UCS 6296 FI. The Cisco UCS Blade servers are connected to the Fabric Interconnect .
On MDS NPIV is enabled.
Can anyone explain the below questions.
1. Why do we create an F port Channel Group and connect it to the UCS FI? Is this something similar to Brocade Edge to AG Switch Connectivity.
2. How to configure F port Channel Group in MDS . Can anyone explain with an example.
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4. What happens when a VSAN on MDS switch is added to the Port Channel.
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Look at my remarks in
https://supportforums.cisco.com/discussion/12468266/fc-port-channels-between-mds-and-ucs-fi-best-practice
1. Why do we create an F port Channel Group and connect it to the UCS FI? Is this something similar to Brocade Edge to AG Switch Connectivity.
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2. How to configure F port Channel Group in MDS . Can anyone explain with an example.
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https://supportforums.cisco.com/sites/default/files/legacy/9/9/2/53299-UCS_1-4-1_F-port_channel-trunk-v1.pdf
3. Do we need to make any Configuration on UCS FI ports for server connectivity and Channel port Connectivity if yes what are the steps required to
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https://supportforums.cisco.com/sites/default/files/legacy/9/9/2/53299-UCS_1-4-1_F-port_channel-trunk-v1.pdf
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