MDVP for collective orders
Hi Experts,
I have a scenario that if i run material availabilty check for FG material then all level of BOMS planned orders should be check collectivily. I have set the process as Collective orders for that because client wanted to have a linkage between parent order and sub-order.
But Now in MDVP I can not see any option to run the collective orders material check as in COHV where collective orders check box is present. Can anyone tell me how I can do the material availabilty check for collective planned orders too?
OR any enhancement I have to use for that?
Regards
Deepak Sharma
Dear,
Solution for this also same use the function module MD_SET_ACTION_PLAF for action control.
Transaction MDAC .
Also in MDVP -
> you put there as 000001-Standard profile
and 000001- Planned order view and put plant and execute that so will also work as collective.
Please try and come back.
Regards,
R.Brahmankar
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Transaction similar to MDVP, for Production Orders
Hello.
I have used transaction MDVP to perform a collective availability check on Planned Orders. Do you know of a similar one that gives me the same information on Production Orders?
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Vishal -
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Hello folks,
Can somebody explain the business scenario associated with collective orders? why we need collective orders? what is the business requirement that calls for collective orders?
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A collective order is a linking together of planned orders or production orders over several manufacturing levels.
Every production order has its own routing and order number.
When you are in the collective order structure, you can edit an individual order, a subtree, or the entire collective order.
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order up.
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Changes to dates and quantities affect all related orders.
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DOCUMENTED GOODS MOVEMENT FOR COLLECTIVE ORDER
Hi Guru's
In the 4.6C version
If i got to Production order from transaction code CO03 , Read the collective order , highlight the toplevel item and ''GOTO'' in the menu bar and select Documented goods movement , the display shows the Top level order AND the Sub-Assemblies.
( sub-assemblies goods movement with main assembly can be seen in the single screen)
In the ECC 6.0 Version
If i got to Production order from transaction code CO03 , Read the collective order , highlight the toplevel item and ''GOTO'' in the menu bar and select Documented goods movement , the display shows the Top level order only.
To see the Goods Movement in the Sub-Assemblies you have to go to each production order individually.
can this be changed in ECC 6.0 exactly to that seen in 4.6c version .
pls give me your valuable inputs at the earliest .
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Regards
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In collective order struture ,Automatic goods movement will be happened between toplevel & lower level.
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Pradeep -
COOIS Capacity report for Collective Order
Hello Expert,
Need your help & assistance. I have an issue related to collective order, COOIS report display for list Capacity.
For one collective order, when I check this COOIS>Capacity report it display only header order detail, not for dependent order.
But for another collective order for same order type & Plant, it display for both header & dependent order.
Please find the attached word doc with screenshot for the steps I am following. Please point out the reason, that I can check so that for first order also it displays both header & dependent orders in the COOIS > Capacity list.Case:01: Wherin COOIS>Capacity list display only show for header order not dependent order
Case 02:Wherin COOIS>Capacity list display show both for header order & dependent order
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For detail please check .xml attached
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Piyush -
Dear experts:
I met a problem of Collective order.
My scenario is : Fert (A) -- Halb (a) -- ROH ( b) . Set special procurment 52 in mrp2 of material a.
suppose material "a" has stock 30pcs, now when i creat a Plan order for "A" 100pcs,
and then run MRP,system generate a plan order "a" 100pcs directly,
not consider the stock of a (30pcs).
my question is how to setting, then i can get the result : Plan order "a" is 70pcs.
And also how to setting when scenario is creating Production order.
Thanks in advance.Dear R.Brahmankar:
Fert A : M0 Individual/coll. "blank"
Halb a: M0 , special procurement: 52 , idual/coll. "blank", stock 30pcs
ROH b: PD.
Now , I creat a Plan order for "A" :100pcs, and Run MD41,
result is: material "a", plan order : 100 pcs.
but what I expectation result is : material "a", plan order : 70 pcs. for I already have 30pcs stock of material "a".
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My problem here is , PO is created using CO10 . WBS is input at the time of creation and available in order header only.
But WBS field is empty for subordinate orders when displayed using CO03.
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I got the solution.
There is a link between BOM header and items and WBS elements through table AFPO.
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User exit/ badi needed for planned order create/change,collective ATP check
Dear All,
I'm looking for a user exit/ badi which can be used for planned orders at the stage of
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I need after collective availability check to perform the following:
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then
2) to start a scheduling.
Very appreciate your help.
Best Regards,
Andrey
Edited by: Andrey Kruglov on Apr 15, 2010 3:06 PM
Edited by: Andrey Kruglov on Apr 15, 2010 3:07 PMDear,
Use the BAPI : BAPI_PLANNEDORDER_CHANGE
Or use the function module MD_SET_ACTION_PLAF for Schedule planned order.
and the transaction MDAC Execute action for planned order
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Explode BOM
Explode BOM, check availability
Check availability, only explode BOM in the case of a requirement
Check availability, do not explode BOM
Reset availability
Change planned order data
Schedule planned order
Delete planned order
Assign the key for the respective action control to the materials in the material master (MRP 4 view).
Please refer this thread,
Re: MDVP for collective orders
Regards,
R.Brahmankar -
Collective Orders with GR & GI for sub-ordinate orders
Hello,
I am lookng for collective Orders where superior order and sub-ordinate ordes can be tagged together and at the sametime, I would like to GR for sub-ordinate Order which trigger Auto GI to superior Order. this feature is not available in collective orders.
why I am looking for GR execution is that GR quantity changes for sub-ordinate order from one order to another order always. it needs to be actual.
any work acound to satisfy this requirement?
Thanks
JKHi JK,
I have a doubt that whether this would be a business requirement. Say as per the BoM if there are 3 levels the last level was expected to be produced as 100 UoM but after production run the yield was 98 UoM or 105 UoM then how system will undertsand that it should post the GI of level 3 SFG2 as yield produced from the last Production/ Process order. But at the same time you need to do subsequent adjustment at SFG1 level also.
This is highly dynamic situation thats why when you have multiple level of BoM and at each stage the chances of yield variation is high then its always better to create Production/ Process order of superordinate level of BoM when the lower level are produced, confirmed and available in the stock.
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Shoyeb -
Goods movement in collective order
Hi all,
We have ticked the indicator for 'Goods movement for collective order' in OPJH, still we are not getting required results. The goods receipt against the child order does not occur.
Please help.
SmanSHi Dear Can u please explain..how you solved this..
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Raghu -
Collective order - manuell booking
Hello all!
Is there a way to use collective orders without automatic booking, but with manual booking.
We like the idea of the linked production orders and the way it is handled. Our problem is,
that we need the semi-finished goods on stock. So we have to book them with MIGO.
Is there any other way to link the production orders and do physical bookings (like in every
standard production order)?
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BarbaraHi,
In a collective order, goods movements (GI & GR) are usually not required for assemblies that are directly produced.
When u do the confirmation for Lower level order, Produed assemblies will be issued to Higher level order directly, so manual goods issue not possible for assemblies to Higher level order.
U can confirm this, with Higher level order cost analysis after the confirmation of lower level order.
So need not issue the produced assembly to higher level order using the MB1A.
Only thing u have to activate Collective order with goods movements object box for Order type at OPJH .
For Lower level order (Assembly order ) good issue for procured components of assembly can be done using MB1A with MVt type 261.
Dependencies :
For collective orders without automatic goods movements you must take organizational measures to ensure that the WIP calculation and the settlement of orders are each carried out twice. You cannot carry out a variance calculation for collective orders without automatic goods movements. You cannot carry out a standard cost calculation for a collective order without automatic goods movements.
You can find detailed information on collective orders in the document Cost object accounting -> Order-related Product Controlling.
Thanks,
Mohit -
I have gone through the threads in w.r.t collective order and direct production. the sap help (IDES too) and the ERP documentation. I still cannot trigger get a process order to be directly created for the subcomponent when I convert the parent planned order (superior planned order).
My BOM structure is the standard FERT-HALB-ROH.
I have setup sp proc key 52 for the halb, BOM and recipe are valid and they are linked to a prod ver. I see a DEP req for the FERT material in the HALB's MD04 screen after I run MRP for the FERT.
I know this setup works for production order. I am however trying with "process orders" since this is required for a PI based inventory. Is this possible?Dear colleague,
Which transaction do you use?
The conversion should be possible.
Please use COR7 and COR8.
we usually recommend not to use PPBICOR8 for collective orders,
because the program flow logic is different from planned order
conversions that do not result in a collective order. For example,
in dialog mode, you usually receive the collective order overview,
in batch input mode (PPBICOR8 is a batch input for COR7), you don't.
PPBICOR8 cannot distinguish between collective orders and non-collective
orders when the batch input is set up for the planned order conversion -
at this point, it is not known if the resulting order will be a
collective order. This is why PPBICOR8 should not be used for
collective orders.
Please apply the attached note 974946 to suppress the pop-up.
If the issue persists, please open a new OSS message with this issue,
thanks and best regards -
Hi Team,
I am working on PP Collective order process. What is PP collective order? In what business scenario shall we use this concept?
What are the configurations required to enable this collective order concept in SAP?
Thanks
KumarDear,
There are lot of postings for Collective order in SDN forum, Better refer the PP forum and use the search option.
Please refer my reply from these threads,
Collective order
Please try and come back.
Regards,
R.Brahmankar -
Hi
good afternoon!
I have a problem in the production record in transaction CO1F (used for collective order).
The system is too slow to make the appointment, can someone help me to improve performance?
Thank you,Hello Reginaldo
Generally, performance issues are only observed on the order confirmation if there are too many operations or goods movements.
If there are many goods movements, maybe it is better to post them in update mode. Check the setting on OPK4 and note 208477 for more details.
Otherwise, you should run some traces on ST05 and ST12, in order to identify exactly what is causing the performance.
BR
Caetano -
MD50 With Collective order scenario
Hi!,
Can we have multi level sales order planning for collective order scenario without runnnng the multi level planning (MD02 / MD01) subsequently.
Actually when we run MD50 system creates the planned order for header material but not for dependent requirements.
I know that this can be done by subsequently running MD02 / MD01. Please let me know that whether is it possible in collective order scenario without running the maulti level planning.
Thanks in advance.
Regards.
UdayHy Uday,
Yes It is possible To generates Planing Proposals for dependent requirement also through MD50.But most imp conditions are,
- For all the BOM Components Ind./Coll requirement type(MRP4) should be maintain as individual requirements only (option 1) or individual or collective requirements.(Blank).
- For Header Material - MRP for Dep. Requirements should be active in MRP 4 view.
If above condition is maintain for BOM components then system will generates Planing proposals for all the BOM components upto the last level of BOM.
For In house Production system will generates Plan order with reference to Sales order (HALB).
And for externally procured Items system will create PR with Reference to Sales order.
Regards,
Dhaval
Edited by: Dhaval Choksi on Aug 18, 2008 3:16 PM
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