ME52N - Automatic source determination fails

Hello experts!
i have detected an issue at my system when i set the Automatic
Source Determination flag when i change a Purchase Requisition at
ME52N.
Here is the situation.
If we set this flag at the PR creation (ME51N), the source
determination is well done.
However, if the user forgets to set flag "Auto Source Determination" at
the PR creation, at ME52N when it is set, the Source is not
determinate automatically...
If you press button "Assign Source", it is brought to the PR correctly.
Is there any OSS Note that solves this mistake??
Thank you very much in advance.
Regards,
cecil

Hi Maria
The header level "source determination" check box is intended for getting the appropriate source for <b>each</b> PR line items while <b>creation</b>.
As you have created PR lines already without choosing this option, now by simple selection in ME52N will not assign source. You have to use source assignment at individual item level.
warm regards
sairam akundi

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