Measuring point and characteristics
what are the measuring points and characteristics to be created for the thermal power station , sap plant maintenance
Hi,
Its based on the equipments in Power Station & Parameters to be measured for the Equipments. For example, for Boiler, Temperature, Pressure, Water Level, etc., will be measured.
So here we need to create Characteristics for all these. For Boilers, Measuring points will be created for these characteristics.
Equipments under Thermal Power stations could be Boilers, Transformers, Electric Generators, Coal Turbines, Condensers, etc., For each equipment, there will be different critical parameters to be measured on periodical basis.
Create Measuring points for all of them.
Regards,
Maheswaran.
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Diffrence between Measuring point and Counter
What is the difference between Measuring Point and Counter ?
-MdHi,
_Measuring Point_
Measuring points in the SAP System describe the physical locations at which a condition is described, (for example, Temparature and Pressure on a Boiler ). The characteristics associated with the measuring points which record the value can only be numeric characteristic. Measuring points are located on technical objects, in other words, on pieces of equipment or functional locations. For every measuring point there should be some characteristics to measure the reading.
To enable you to differentiate more easily between the individual measuring points and provide them with a unit, you assign each measuring point to a characteristic.
The parameters like Running Hours, Temperature, Pressure etc,, on equipments can also be mapped under measuring point.
Counter:
A type of measuring point, where a continuous reading is recorded (e.g. Milometer). In case the measuring point is a counter, it needs to be defined likewise.
Counter readings are taken at counters at particular intervals and in particular measurement units.
For Example, counter readings for kilometers driven or electricity used
Regards,
Krishna Mohan. -
Equipment Efficiency through Measuring Point and Counters
Hi gurus,
I am planning to get the efficiency of equipment by using Meauring points and counters.
Against an Equipment I have created a Measuring point as counter.
I am capturing Actual output of the machine as mesurment reading.
In order to set the Target output i dont find a solution.
I am expecting from all you guys to give me some solution to set the Expected or standard output against an equipment.
so that i can compare the target vs actual as well as efficiency.The purpose of measuring points and counters is to genrate call objects at given overflow reading or points I dont think so that they can help in calculating the effiency in a way that this machine perfomence is let say 80% and other one is 70%.
However you can maintain it manualy while entering the measuring points in format of % .
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Iftikhar -
Functional location in Measuring Point and while creating M.plan or differe
Hi,
we found that functional location in Measuring point and M.plan functional location Measuring point are differrent, how to restrict that one ,we need automatically flow of functional location from measuring point to Maintenance plan.
--GaneshHi,
If you created the Measuring Point for the selected FL, then that measuring point will be populated automatically. If you have more than one measuring point, then you can select using Possible entries option.
In this case, I think its not possible to restrict with configuration.
IPRM0004 Maintenance plan / item: Customer check for time "SAVE"
Use this user exit, while saving check for the functional location for the selected measuring point & give error message.
Use tables IMPTT to get Object Number of FL. Use IFLOT to get the FL.
Regards,
Maheswaran. -
Removing of the Measuring point and superior equipment
Hi,
Can any one tell me the steps to followed for removing and setting og deletion flag for measuring point and superior equipment.
I ran thr Tcode IK05 and deactivated it is it sufficient to do so.please help me.
Regards,
Yashwanthhi
why you want to deactivate the measuring point ,if you have created a maintenance plan you can deactivate the maintenance plan so that system will not generate the maintenance call object.
or it is better you deactivate the equipment itself if you have done that you cannot able to enter further measurement documents for measuring point
regards
thyagarajan -
Unable to Inport Measurement points and Measure documents from R/3 to clien
Hi,
I am not able to import measuring points and measuring documents into the client device even after assigning the measurement point varaint in the back-end config.
Please help!
Thanks & Regards,
KanwarHello Kanwar,
I am thinking of two reasons at the moment.
1. The equipments/Functional location which you had downloaded to your device were not having measurement points. If this is the case, you need to make sure that corresponding Equip/FL's are there on client (provided case 2 is not valid)
2. The measurement points were not replicated. Hope you had checked MEREP_207 table for the required measurement points.
Hope this helps.
Best Regards,
Subhakanth -
Graph of Measurement points and a charecteristic vs time
Hi SAP Masters,
I am currently having a problem and I hope you can help me to solve this. I am trying to create a graph where I can compare one of my Design data which is in my characteristic against the graph that i can generate from the measurement point vs time graph.
How can I add the characteristic into this graph?
And How does SAP know that which two column should be used for the graph? I know It can add a secondary y-axix but doesn't allow me to chose any data for that axis.
My objective is to compare the measurement point data(movement) vs time with the design data(design movement). I can generate a column graph of movement vs time from the measurement points and I can display it over last couple of years. but if I can show design movement along with the measurement point movement then it is good for us to see if it is more than design movement stored in the classification tab of the Floc.
thank you
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Hi all,
Can anyone please tell me the process of how to use measuring points and counters and in which scenario it will be used in plant.It would be great if anyone can tell the process with an example and also how to create measuring points and counters iin SAP as well.
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
VijayMeasuring points are physical and/or logical locations at which a particular condition
is described - for example, the temperature of coolant in a nuclear power station
after an outflow from the pressure vessels, or the number of rotations per minute of
the rotary blades of a wind-driven power station. Measuring points are located at
technical objects.
Counters are resources that enable you to represent the wear and tear of an object or
the consumption or reduction in its useful life - for example, the mileage indicator of a
motor vehicle or the electricity consumption meter of an electrically-powered system.
Counters are located at technical objects.
You can enter measurement or counter readings for each object to be maintained. This
makes sense if you want to document the condition of an object based on measurement
readings or if the regular maintenance of an object depends on its meter readings.
You can also check these links:
http://www.sap-img.com/plant/recording-measuring-docs-against-work-orders.htm
http://www.sap-img.com/plant/measuring-points-questions-in-sap-pm.htm -
Function Module to get usage by supplying measuring point and equipment no
Hi,
I want to know what is the function module to get the usage on giving the measuring point,equipment number and month.Thanks in advance.
Regards,
SGRTry this Function Module : ALM_ME_EQUIPMENT_GETDETAIL
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Measurement point and counter SAP PM
Hi SAP Guru
I've one scenario in which we've to input counter reading smaller than the previous reading
and some times bigger reading than previous reading for a single counter.
It is because single counter is for Energy Meter which sometimes shows bigger value and sometimes shows lesser value in case of shutdown at plant.
Please let me know asap - is it possible for a single counter to accept bigger value one time and next time smaller value ?
We can't make two counters for a single equipment.
Regards
PoojaTry using the counter as a measurement point. Unclick the box measurement point is a counter and set the upper and lower tolerance settings on the details page. The meter is not a counter but a gage. as long as the gage reads between the upper and lower tolerances you are good. If the gage reads out of tolerance designate a warning or an error. You can also set it up through a user exit to produce a notification or a work order for out of tolerance readings. See Condition Based Maintenance. -Rich
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What is Make System Settings for Measuring Points and Measurement Documents
Dear PM Guru's,
i have doubht on the above customization section? in which situations we can activate or create new one ? whats its importance, how its impacts on our business scenarios. please suggest me and help me. Now i am in realization phase i am not observed much more difference with this check box .
i hope i will get the answer very soonly, and thanks to all of the PM gurusHi,
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Regrds
Jitender
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Datatable for upper and lower limit maintained in Measuring Point.
Hi,
I am making use of user exit : IMCR0001. User exit generates maintenance order for measuring reading which are beyong the range maintained in measruing point.
I have create measuring point with characteristics as TEMPERATURE. I have maintained upper limit : 1500 C & lower limit : 1200 C.
When I check datatable IMPTT and look for upper and lower limit, it is showing me : Upper range :1.7731500000000001E03 Lower range : 1.4731500000000001E03
Why is that I can not find the actual value as 1500 and 1200 n the datatable?
In which datatable I can find these values?
Kindly help.
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
TOM.Hi Tom,
These are system Generated Values, but they will be concatenated by a few Zeros, but you can always find the exact value,
I am able to see the Values correctly in my system follower by some 10-12 zero's "E"+ 02 or 03.
but can check the values
can cross check the Characteristics for the same measuring point?
Regards,
Yawar Khan -
Reg: measuring point creation and measuring point counter creation
how to create measuring point and measuring point counter.
what is the difference between these two.
what is measuring point category,
what is measuring point
what is measuring point object
what is measuring position.
can anyone explain me in an easy for better understanding.Firstly a Measuring point is nothing but, a factor which you measure on an equipment/FL. (Temperature, Vibration etc)
Then, a measuring point is created either on a Functional location or on an Equipment.
IK01 is the T-code for creating it.
If it is for F/L you have to use IFL as measuring point object, when it is an equipment you use IEQ
Generally these two will be in use.
In the IK01 screen if you tick the counter checkbox, the MP becomes a counter.
Example for simple MP is temperature.
And example for a Counter MP is 'Litres of petrol consumed'
In the first case you don't need to add the temperature measurements, whereas in the petrol consumption you may wish to have the cumulative value of readings taken for a period of time.
The measuring position: Example : If you are measuring the temperature of a Motor on the Drive side, you may put 'Drive End' in this field, or similar many applications.
Category would group these MPs.
In case of need you may define in customisation a sep[arate MP category.
Then each time you read a MP through IK11 or other methods a Measuring Document is created.
Regards
Jogeswara Rao -
Measuring point in equi[ment for calibration cycle.
Hi All,
Can any body tell me how to use Measuring point and measuring document in calibration - in Equipment.
Its urgent for me
Thanks
Siddheshhi siddesh
iam not having any doc. please follow the link in that a model company has performed all the operation in PM
<b>http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/fe/67f9609d6f11d189b60000e829fbbd/frameset.htm</b>
regards
thyagarajan -
Team,
I am trying to create a measuring point based PM. The requierment is i am checking the wear of an equipment and if it goes below 50 mm, i want a notication to be created. I am sure the IMRC001 is activated in my client. I did the following process
1. Create IK01 measuring point.
2. Create IK11 measuring document
3. Create Tasklist
4. Create PM
But when i create the Plan in IP41, i still see the counter which exists for the equipment , but dont see the measuring point in the plan.
Am i missing something? Please guide me.
Thanks,
NureyaMaheswaran
Thanks for the reply. Why should this wear measuring point should be a counter? I want this as measuring point and set the interval in extras...EX: If the wear is 48 -52 , the system should trigger a notication.
Are you saying, if I use user exit IMRC0001..I don't have to create a maintenance plan in IP41/IP42? Please confirm
Nureya
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