Measuring point based PM

Team,
I am trying to create a measuring point based PM. The requierment is i am checking the wear of an equipment and if it goes below 50 mm, i want a notication to be created. I am sure the IMRC001 is activated in my client. I did the following process
1. Create IK01 measuring point.
2. Create IK11 measuring document
3. Create Tasklist
4. Create PM
But when i create the Plan in IP41, i still see the counter which exists for the equipment , but dont see the measuring point in the plan.
Am i missing something? Please guide me.
Thanks,
Nureya

Maheswaran
Thanks for the reply. Why should this wear measuring point should be a counter? I want this as measuring point and set the interval in extras...EX: If the wear is 48 -52 , the system should trigger a notication.
Are you saying, if I use user exit IMRC0001..I don't have to create a maintenance plan in IP41/IP42? Please confirm
Nureya

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