Media manager refusing to trim

I captured a 15GB clip from analog over a DV converter (non-controllable source). The last time I checked in on the capture, the tape had finished and left several minutes of dead media in the clip.
I'm trying to use Media Manager to trim this off. I set in and outpoints and created a subclip with only the media I need, then launched Media manager. No matter what settings are chosen, the destination size is the same as the result size. What's going on? I could really use the space back right now.

When you capture using the Non controllable preset, FCP does not look for code on the tape being capture. Instead it give the clip "generic" code. So that's what you've got now, it just means the code on the clips has no relation to the tape so a recapture with the same code is not possible.
If you are only talking about one clip that has not yet been edited this is not a problem. Exporting from the FCP timeline is just simple since that's where the clip is now right?
Anyway you do it (including Media Manager) the important thing is that you have enough free space on a drive to make the copy and that you export without adding any compression (use current settings in the QT export dialogue in FCP)
Good Luck
rh

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Trimming Media in Media Manager

Hi everyone!
I captured my footage withouth logging, then I used DV start/stop detection to create subclips and renamed them... Now I would like to make a copy or use the existing media to create different files from each subclip... I followed the step by step tutorial in the FCP user manual (FCP version 5.0.4)...
- I deleted the original master clip from wich I created subclips
- I selected the subclips I want to manage
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"use existing", "delete unused media etc..." (no handles), "use clip names", deselected "duplicate selected items and place into a new project"...
The result was that FCP create a single (trimmed) file using the name of the first subclip I selected...
What's the problem?
Sometimes I'm one of them who dreams to come back to Avid when using FCP MM...

Sorry, I just realized I posted to FCE forum...

Media Manager Trim changes timecode to Drop-frame.

Have a project with footage shot on AJA Kona Ki at 29.97Psf using Apple ProRes 422(HQ). Timecode base Non-Drop-frame time-of-day timecode. Editing in CS6.0.2 on Mac OS 10.7. Trying to trim project using media manager so that only the used media can get color-graded using Filmlight's Baselight. Once the project is trimmed and new trimmed media is created, we export an EDL from the new sequence and conform in the Baselight.
However it seems Premiere is changing the timecode of the new clips to Drop-frame timecode. The EDL seems to reflect this and the Baselight can't conform. We've imported the trimmed media into FCP 7 and confirmed that it sees the new media as Drop-frame timecode. What the heck?
Can anyone help to replicate this issue and confirm if we're seeing what we're seeing. Think it is a huge bug of some kind. If I can get someone to help confim, I'll submit a bug report.
While on the topic of drop-frame. Premiere also seems to think is needs to compensate for DF code when you import a sequence from a Premiere project straight into Adobe Media Encoder. For instance a sequence that is set to start at 01:00:00:00 imports into AME with starting timecode of 01:00:03:15. Or at least it's always 3:15 off from whatever timecode the sequence is set to start at. That sounds like the offset needed to compensate for the difference between NDF and DF code. This makes bringing one sequence in and setting in and outs while in AME a very big pain. Such as a sequence with 10-30sec spots starting at the even minute. Can anyone help to confirm this issue as well?
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2x2.66 6-core Xeon.
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OS 10.7.4
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I just looked at the data in the edl. Exported also a new edl from premiere.
In the Premiere edl, there is many FCM at start, so I added one in the AVID, and bang, project is starting correctly.
Before : (From Avid)
TITLE: TEST 720P 29,97 EDL
FCM: NON-DROP FRAME
data.....
After editing:
TITLE: TEST 720P 29,97 EDL
FCM: DROP FRAME
FCM: NON-DROP FRAME
data...

CS6 Project Manager is not trimming R3D media.

Hello,
I am experiencing another problem with CS6 and R3D media.
I am trying to move a PPCS6 project to an external hard drive in order to send it out for DI work.
From Project Manager I select "create new trimmed project" with 24 frames handels.
Once all the files are processed the resulting new project is huge and none of the clips have been trimmed.
I tried to create a test sequence, with only 2 minutes of editing to see if the problem could have been solved with a fresh new sequence.
Unfortunatelly I get the same rusults.
CS6 is giving me several headackes with r3d media. I have been having several Unkown Errors while rendering or exporting different projects.
Now I realize that CS6 cannot properly archive or copy trimmed projects.
This is one of Andrew Davis's links that explains the archival process. Unfortunatelly it won't work woth r3d media:
http://library.creativecow.net/devis_andrew/Archiving-Projects/1
Pease let me know If you ever ecountered a solution to this problem.
If of any help, here is my setup:
MacPro 12cores
64GB ram
RedRocket
nVidia Quadro
Media is stored in an Internal raid
Project Manager is set to export the trimmed project on a regula G-Raid drive with sufficient space and speed
Thanks!
Message was edited by: Neonhigh - Tutorial link added

Not all media types can be trimmed. In this case, Adobe cant write to the proprietary RED codec. (You notice there's no RED export options.)

Media Manager 9.6.12 won't run; insists that I "upgrade" to same version, refuses to run

Every time I run Media Manager, an Upgrade window appears with the options to "Quit" or "Upgrade".
I can't use Media Manager because I can't dismiss this upgrade box without selecting one of those two buttons.
- Clicking "Quit" exists the upgrade application and Media Manager completely,
- Clicking "Upgrade" closes Media Manager and launches "Verizon Media Manager-9.6.12 Setup", with the options to Repair or Remove.
I've repaired the installation several times with no errors, but every time Media Manager launches, this process starts again (with the modal Upgrade window). I've completely uninstalled Media Manager (both through the Upgrade app and via Add/Remove Programs) and reinstalled it from a fresh download. I've rebooted at every opportunity along the upgrade and remove/reinstall paths. The results are always the same: double-click Media Manager, it loads, it says I have to upgrade or quit.
I'm running on a fully patched XPsp3 machine. The only other apps on this box are Panda Cloud Antivirus, TRENDnet SecureView (IP camera montior), PerfectDisk (defragger), and an [inactive] installation of Cerberus FTP Server. The machine also serves as a VPN gateway into my home network (via built-in XP services, nothing 3rd party). Besides periodic updates, no programs have been added or removed in at least two years.
The problem likely started sometime within the past few months; I just noticed it I recently when I went to check the PC's status.
Suggestions?

I haven't other reports of this happening. Are you able to successfully install and use it on other machines in the house? It sounds like there is something interacting with it causing problems which we would need to isolate programs one by one to find which is the offending program.
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Bullseye Media Manager

Hello,
I just finished a working version of a media manager I use for my personal account to handle my music and pictures collection. I decided to published it on AUR as I assume it might interest some people.
It's a python app with several modules.
Here's a little sum up of what it is about :
Music module
- Inspired by Amarok 1.4 and Exaile
- Library browser show rating sum, playcount sum and burn factor by node (artist, album, track, etc...). Burn factor is high if you've listened a lot to a few tracks of a node.
- Advanced queue managment with several flags to apply on queued tracks :
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Temp jump : Once the player is done playing the current track, it will play this track and then go back where it left
Perm jump : Once the player is done playing the current track, it will play this track and then continue playback from here
Bridge source : Once the player is done playing this track, it will move to the bridge dest of this bridge source (if there is one)
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- Passive filters : hide tracks you do not want to see by showing only those matching filters, useful if you have a large collection and at some point just listen to a few tracks. Can be seen as content view modes.
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Last edited by Piccolo (2012-05-21 16:38:03)

Qt Version was broken, and wasn't loading the database (thus no music was showing).
My vim setup trims extra whitespace from files, so I created a diff that ignores white space to allow a cleaner application of the patch:
diff --git a/qt/gui/menubar.py b/qt/gui/menubar.py
index 495b484..0d1189f 100644
--- a/qt/gui/menubar.py
+++ b/qt/gui/menubar.py
@@ -22,7 +22,7 @@ class MenuBar(QtGui.QMenuBar):
def checkForNewFiles(self):
progressNotifier = self.core.statusBar.addProgressNotifier()
- self.core.BDD.checkForNewFiles(progressNotifier)
+ self.core.db.checkForNewFiles(progressNotifier)
def loadModuleMenus(self, module):
As a side note, there seems to be a lot of differences between the gtk and qt versions. Aside from potentially not having qt installed, is there a reason to maintain two versions? Alternatively, i wonder if it would make since to separate the project into a library and the gui's which implement the library (kind of like xmms and mpd do)? These are just ramblings, so feel free to ignore this part of my reply. the important part is the patch. :-)
edit:
If the above didn't apply cleanly, try this instead:
diff --git a/qt/gui/menubar.py b/qt/gui/menubar.py
index 495b484..0d1189f 100644
--- a/qt/gui/menubar.py
+++ b/qt/gui/menubar.py
@@ -9,22 +9,22 @@ class MenuBar(QtGui.QMenuBar):
self.core = parent
QtGui.QMenuBar.__init__(self, parent)
toolsMenu = QtGui.QMenu(_('&Tools'))
+
toolsMenu.addAction(_('Check for new files'), self.checkForNewFiles)
toolsMenu.addAction(_('Settings'), self.openSettings)
self.addMenu(toolsMenu)
+
parent.moduleLoaded.connect(self.loadModuleMenus)
+
for module in self.core.loadedModules:
self.loadModuleMenus(module)
+
+
def checkForNewFiles(self):
progressNotifier = self.core.statusBar.addProgressNotifier()
- self.core.BDD.checkForNewFiles(progressNotifier)
+ self.core.db.checkForNewFiles(progressNotifier)
+
+
def loadModuleMenus(self, module):
if(module == 'pictures' or module == 'videos'):
pictures = QtGui.QMenu(_(module[0].capitalize() + module[1:]))
@@ -32,9 +32,9 @@ class MenuBar(QtGui.QMenuBar):
pictures.addAction(_('Check for doubloons'), self.core.managers[module].containerBrowser.checkForDoubloons)
pictures.addAction(_("Move to UC structure"), lambda: self.moveToUCStructure(module))
pictures.addSeparator()
+
panelGroup = QtGui.QActionGroup(self)
+
browserMode = settings.get_option(module + '/browser_mode', 'panel')
panes = pictures.addAction( _('Multi-panes'), lambda: self.core.managers[module].setBrowserMode('panes'))
@@ -42,7 +42,7 @@ class MenuBar(QtGui.QMenuBar):
if(browserMode == 'panes'):
panes.setChecked(True)
panes.setActionGroup(panelGroup)
+
panel = pictures.addAction(_('All in one panel'), lambda: self.core.managers[module].setBrowserMode('panel'))
panel.setCheckable(True)
if(browserMode == 'panel'):
@@ -56,61 +56,61 @@ class MenuBar(QtGui.QMenuBar):
self.core.BDD.reloadCovers(progressNotifier)
music = QtGui.QMenu(_('Music'))
music.addAction(_('Reload covers'), reloadCovers)
+
+
self.addMenu(music)
+
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dialog = modales.UCStructureHelper(module)
folder = dialog.exec_()
if folder != None:
self.core.managers[module].containerBrowser.moveToUCStructure(folder)
+
def openSettings(self):
dialog = modales.SettingsEditor()
dialog.exec_()
+
class StatusBar(QtGui.QStatusBar):
def __init__(self):
QtGui.QStatusBar.__init__(self)
+
def addProgressNotifier(self):
notifier = ProgressNotifier(self)
notifier.done.connect(self.removeNotifier)
self.addWidget(notifier)
return notifier
+
def removeNotifier(self):
notifier = self.sender()
self.removeWidget(notifier)
class ProgressNotifier(QtGui.QProgressBar):
+
valueRequested = QtCore.Signal(int)
pulseRequested = QtCore.Signal()
done = QtCore.Signal()
+
def __init__(self, statusBar):
QtGui.QProgressBar.__init__(self)
self.statusBar = statusBar
self.valueRequested.connect(self.setValue)
self.pulseRequested.connect(self.doPulse)
+
def doPulse(self):
self.setRange(0, 0)
+
def emitDone(self):
self.done.emit()
+
def pulse(self):
self.pulseRequested.emit()
+
+
def setFraction(self, val):
val *= 100
if(self.maximum != 100):
self.setMaximum(100)
self.valueRequested.emit(val)
+
The difference is that whitespace edits aren't ignored
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Media Manager not deleting unused media from HDV (intermediate codec) clips

I have a project which uses HDV footage which I captured using the Apple Intermediate Codec. I now have a bunch of clips that are very large in file size so I'd like to use the Media Manager to delete all the unused footage from the clips. I have tried countless different selections of sequences, clips in the browser, clips in a timeline etc but can't seem to get the Media Manager to show a smaller file size for the processed files based on 'Use Existing' with 'Delete unused media' option. The two size meters at the top always stay the same. Can the media manager trim HDV/Apple Intermediate Codec footage? If not is there a way to get rid of the footage that I haven't used? Thanks!
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Hope someone who has tamed the MM beast will step in here and offer you a better way...
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x

Question:   What about Media Manager?

Is there any equivalent to Media Manager in FCPX?   What we had wasn't perfect, but was incredibly useful.

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In CS5.5., I use the media manager to make a trimmed copy of my project for archiving (I select all the sequences) yet it won't bring along any after effects files (.aep) that were used in the premiere project. The end result is a trimmed copy sans any .aep files, so for now I bring the .aep files in manually but is there a reason/solution to this?
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is there a solution to this?
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Through my research I believe the "error 47" must relate to an imcompatible frame rate from your native sequence frame rate. I've done the tests and once I changed the frame rate of the problem clip(through conversion), I no longer had any problems.
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With FCP 5.1.2 I am having some issues with media managing a 25 minute SD sequence from a large project. My goal is to move the sequence and clips to an external drive from the main editing system.
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<file id="QTMRead">
<pathurl>file://localhost/Applications/Final%20Cut%20Pro.app/Contents/MacOS/</pathurl>
<rate>
<timebase>24</timebase>
<ntsc>TRUE</ntsc>
</rate>
<duration>3808</duration>
<media>
<audio>
<samplecharacteristics>
<samplerate>48000</samplerate>
<depth>32</depth>
</samplecharacteristics>
<channelcount>1</channelcount>
</audio>
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1. I am sure she has more than one batch of files named "untitledxx" in her numerous capture scratch folders. If I do media manager will it keep them separated and properly linked to it's intended clip, or will Media manager throw them all together, thus confusing FCP?
I noticed an option on media manager that asks if you want to base media file names by their exsisting file names, or clip names.
She does a decent job correctly labeling her clips in the bin, just not the captured source files, by basing the media on clip will it solve my issue mentioned above? <
Unknown, sorry, this is why you want to run a test, probably more than one. The source media files will not have exactly the same names--oh, you have separate capture folders. Okay, this WILL be a problem.
<div class="jive-quote">2. Deleting unused media...I should uncheck this right? otherwise i may loose clips I need or want to use? Is this why the green bar labeled modified is smaller than the original bar? What does including affiliate clips outside selection mean? < </div>
This is one of the things that tells me MM was designed by or purchased from someone who has not prior knowledge of FCP. This actually means the copy will forget and refuse to copy over any unused media. But it scare the bejeezus out of everyone. "DELETE?" Ohmygawd, NO!
3. And my best bet for right now is to copy the media, rather than move, decompress, or use existing? that way if anything messes up, i can still use her drives. < </div>
Affirmative. Still, make some tests so you are confident with the MM results. You're on the right track, luck.
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I have a large project, and I want to reduce it with Media Manager.
I've selected 1 sequence, opened Media Manager and set it up to copy, deleting un-used media, using 2" handles, duplicating selected items & placing in a new project.
This goes all sweet except 1 clip on the timeline brings up "Error Code 34"
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I've been editing, not media managing.
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3. Press ⌘E and select a location to save the clip.
4. Press Return.
5. Repeat until all clips are accounted for in the save location.
6. Export an XML of your sequence.
7. Import the XML and reconnect the sequence footage to the new clips.
I hope this is helpful to anyone nutty enough to want to use FCP in the future. Thanks.

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i want to use media manager to duplicate my project, & trim it down to just the timeline clips and place it on a 2nd external drive. i think i checked/unchecked all the logical squares off in Media Manager but when it went to work a dialog box appeared warning "this operation will permanently modify existing media files". how will it modify existing media files if i am just asking for it to trim the DUPLICATE? i want to make sure that nothing is altered in the existing project...i just want to have a trimmed backup. is this warning just a general/generic warning that applies to any media manager maneuver or do i have something to worry about if i hit the "continue" (instead of "abort") button?

I had the same problem recently. The media was ripped from DVD and imported. A look at the manual told me that to be able to reduce the clip size to only the required media certain conditions have to be met. My problem was that because the clips were imported they did not have an associated Reel Name. I set a reel name for each and bingo, the size went down.
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