MediaSource Smart Playlists--Transfer to playe

I really like MediaSource's Smart Playlist feature, but I'd really like to actually be able to use them on my player. Is there any way to upload these playlists to the Zen Touch (which is what I have) to either automatically change using the parameters set, or at least with just a list of files? It would be preferable if it could make the playlist on the player, but I could also make one on MediaSource using my computer's backup of my Touch...

All you can do is copy the files in the playlist to a playlist you create on the player, at which point of course they become "dumb" static playlists.

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Hi,
How can I create a smart playlist of least played complete albums? (of a specific genre, say jazz)
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Thank you for any idea!
Daniel
p.s. there have been solutions for earlier versions of iTunes, none working with iTunes 10 apparently

As you say, you can't access the Gapless property in a smart playlist rule.
The obvious way that comes to mind would be to create another playlist with stuff to exclude from your final list and put the gapless tracks and anything else that won't filter out easily into it.
Yes you say but I have oodles of gapless tracks and I don't want to gather them up by hand.
OK, so you'll need a script. Here is one I've just created for the purpose: GaplessToPlaylist
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Smart playlists won't play on video ipod after upgrade to itunes version 7

Upgraded to ITunes version 7 on Windows XP using Video Ipod with firmware level 1.2. Resynced Ipod after Itunes upgrade. Now when I hit ipod's play button on a smart playlist, nothing happens. If I hit play button from itunes, no problems...
Is this a known issue with a solution? I was unable to find a solution in the forum. Thank you for any assistance.
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I have a smart list that selects classical music pieces based on two separate criteria ("choose with words "###" or "***" in the comments into the playlist), and puts them in the playlist.
But even if the play order is displayed correctly in iTunes, once it loads onto my iPods (4th Gen Touch, and iPod Photo), the play order is randomized.
This may be tolerable with rock music, but in classical music when several movements must be played in order, it poses a major problem.
I have re-ordered it using "Album by Title", verfied the play order in iTunes and then have chosen "Copy to Play Order". then I sync to my iPods, but in iPod the playlist is out of order (whatever order Smart Playlist chose.. which seems rather random).
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Is there a bug? or am I not understanding how "Copy to Play Order" works?
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If I have a smart playlist, I noticed the last played time of an item does not update if I have launched and played the item from the main area it appears in (like podcasts).
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Thanks.

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Smart Playlist does not play new songs. Any clue?

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In principal, putting a Smart Playlist into another Smart Playlist will work. However, if the rules of the Playlists are conflicting, that may be why you have an issue. First of all, can we be clear on exactly which Playlists are doing what?
Are you saying that songs recently added to your iTunes Library are:
not in the first Playlist,
not in the second Playlist but are in the first one, or
that they are in the second list, but simply don't play.
or that songs, newly added to the second Playlist are there, but don't get played? In this case, how many songs are in the list?
Can you take screenshots of the two playlists, or list them here. In this screenshot for example;
...this Playtlist refers to five other Smart Playlists. The resulting Playlist is usually over 300 songs. So I don't always know if a song in the list ever gets played, simply because there are so many. I do know however, that the list plays a random selection of my songs and gets updated successfully when I sync the iPod with iTunes.
If you list the Playlists here (rather than screenshot them), can you also mention the top left tick-box section; "match any/all of the following rules". It changes according to the fields below it.

Mediasource Smart Playlist Crite

When I am altering the properties of the songs, there is a MOOD criteria. When I go to create a Smart Playlist, the Mood criteria is not one of my options. Why is that and is there a way to use the Mood criteria?

Mood is an ID3 v2 tag field. Presumably MediaSource can't create a playlist from this data, so it would need to be a new feature.

Smart playlist based on play counts within specific time period?

I have tooled all around with the smart playlist options, and this is not a possibility, based on the options iTunes gives you. So I'd like to know if there is a posibility that a script can be written for something like this.
What I want is to be able to create a smart playlist that generates a list of songs that I played a lot during a certain time. For example, if I want to listen to a collection of songs that I had been listening to a lot back in October, I would want an option to do something like this.....
Plays (from [10/01/13] to [10/31/13]) is: (greater than) [12]
Meaning I played it more than 12 times in October alone. Could've played it before that, could've played it after that, but I only want the 13+ October plays to be considered.
Using the options "plays" and "last played" isn't going to work, because that's just gonna eliminate any song that I played again after that time period.
So can a script be written for something like what I'm looking for?
I don't know if it's a posibility because that would mean that iTunes would have to log every single play on a song, and I don't think it does that. I think it erases its memory of the previous play date each time the song is played again.

The last iPod update I had is at least 3 month ago (iPod click wheel, system version 3.1). I am pretty sure that the live update at least those based on play count still did work after that. After updating to iTunes 5 it definitely was gone. I don't know if it is iTunes 5, but this is when I realized it and I did not install anything else for my iPod the last couple of months.
I am pretty sure that it worked before, because I used to listen to audio books that consist of 5 minutes track. The live update helped to avoid listening to the same track twice. I would have recognized the missing live update earlier otherwise.

Last Played in Smart Playlists

In version 11, when a track has been played inside a Smart Playlist, the Last Played does not update. This has broken my Smart Playlists!! I have groups of them inside playlist folders, set to pick one song from a certain category based on when the song was last played. When a song plays, the Live Updating feature should recognize that it just did, delete that song, and pick another from the same category. THIS DOES NOT WORK when Last Played DOES NOT UPDATE!!

Good idea. Post it on this page so the Apple people will see it: http://www.apple.com/feedback/itunesapp.html

Play count for podcasts do not update when using Smart Playlist

On my iPhone, when I play podcasts using a Smart Playlist I have noticed that neither the "play count" nor the "watched" get updated for any of the podcasts I listened to (and yes, I listen through to the end of each).
After listening to several podcasts in the Smart Playlist (letting it play from end of one into beginning of next and so on), then syncing to my PC, all of the podcasts still shows as being "unwatched" and the play count field is blank.
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NOTE: Not sure if this would matter, but I frequently listen to podcasts at 2x speed (double).
Message was edited by: dromedary32

You have the shuffle feature turned on. Since Podcasts are labelled (by iTunes) as *Skip when shuffling* (to prevent them playing while you're trying to listen to music) when one Podcasts finishes, there is nothing else left to play. If you look at the play tally, it will say 1 of 1.
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Here's an example: I have a smart playlist that only plays songs that have been played 2 or more times (Playlist A). I want to make another smart playlist (B) that plays songs by the artists included on playlist A but that are songs not included on playlist A because they have not been played two times yet.
I could do this by making a smart playlist that says to play:
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not included on Playlist A
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But for the life of me, I can not figure out how to do this simple thing. My options for Playlist are only "is" or "is not".
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But I have to say, I don't know why that the "is/is not included in" field would not be an option. They oughtta add it!
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http://www.apple.com/feedback/itunesapp.html
Thanks you solved my question.
Enjoy the music!

Please help, simple question about Smart Playlists and Live Updating

PLEASE for some reason I've never gotten an answer on this.
I have a Smart Playlist called "Recently Played" with Live Updating. No matter how I set the parameters, the most recently played *song will ALWAYS appear on the bottom of the list when using my iPhone on the go.* I bolded that because I want you to be aware I'm not talking about on iTunes - I'm aware you can change how the list is viewed on iTunes.
When using your iPod/iPhone on the fly and Live Updating is enabled, is there any way to make the most recently played song appear at the very top???
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Haven't seen that problem before but try the following: in iTunes, right-click the playlist name and enable the option "Copy to Play Order." Then sync.
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Smart playlists not updating on iPod Touch

Smart playlists based on "Play Count" or "Last Played" don't seem to work on my iPod Touch. I've got a smart playlist setup to list the tracks of an audiobook that have a play count of 0. On my iPod Classic, I could listen to this playlist and when a track finished, it would be removed from the playlist, making it easy to get back to where I was on the audiobook. On my iPod Touch, the smart playlist doesn't update until I sync with iTunes.
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Scott

I have a smart playlist of podcasts syced to my iPod Touch that has worked with iOS 3 and works with iOS 4, using the settings described here: http://bit.ly/c9GoOF . The key is to check "Live updating". Once the podcast finishes playing it drops off the playlist as expected.
I had the "bright" idea of also including a playlist identical to the first but with "Live updating" not checked (see http://bit.ly/922a2L ). I did this so that I had a playlist containing the already-played podcasts in case I wanted to go back to listen to them again.
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Some smart playlists not working correctly

I have a smart playlist, "100 Most Played" that contains, as you might infer, the 100 most played songs (according to play count). On the iPhone, this seems to come out as 100 random songs because it does not correspond to the playlist as it appears in iTunes.
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agreed. i'm having the same problem, and am also surprised by it.
DOESN'T WORK:
"Top 25" - should be easy. all the songs that the iPhone needs for this smart playlist are, yes, synced to the iPhone. but it picks a set of songs that have nothing in common as far as i can see (they have different ratings and add dates and so on).
WORK CORRECTLY:
"80s/Good" - an alphabetical list of songs with the genre "80s". this works and appears in the right order.
"New" - shows new additions to iTunes, sorted by date added. works correctly.
WEIRDEST:
"Forgotten/Best" - is a playlist for showing 5-star songs not played recently. has always worked on iTunes. oddly, on the iPhone, the song list is actually the song list for the "Top 25" ?!?!!? i mean, it -is- the Top 25 playlist, but with the wrong name somehow. it's very confusing.
waiting for a software update =)

Smart Playlists on iOS

Still not working properly for me. How about anyone else? It's an improvement - I see a few songs in them now, but in some I am only seeing one or two where there should be hundreds.
Haven't been able to check the play count / last played yet but will experiment further with it tomorrow.

iOS 5.1 did not fix all the problems related to smart playlist in the iPad 2 with iTunes Match subscription.
Smart Playlists based on dates are not syncing across all devices and Macs/PCs. For example, Recently Played.
Smart Playlists based on play counts are not syncing across all devices and Macs/PCs.
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iOS 5.1 did fix one of my problems: the Smart Playlists in the iPad2 that are based on the "Comments" field. My smart playlists are now correctly populated with songs.
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