MeeGo on the n900?

With Intel and Nokia working together on a new Mobile OS, where does this put Maemo updates for the n900 in the future?  It will start to come out in Q2 2010, so will it work on the n900 as it stands?
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Slowly ramped down? I think you're under estimating Nokias ability to drop a current device like a hot potato!! It'll disappear over night!!
From the looks of things Meego is a fairly different beast to Maemo.. I expect some serious differences.. the package system is RPM (which I detest with a passion) as opposed to Maemo5's "deb" format.. so not only will the contents of packages be incompatible, you wouldn't be able to install them anyhow!
Of all the little side projects I have bubbling away (I'm doing some funky Maemo5 development on the train to and from work at the moment) I'm already anticipating dropping Maemo5 for Meego/whatever when the SDK is out.. I doubt we're going to see another Maemo5 handset, so honestly, what's the point of developing for it!!
The N900 is funky toy, and packages will be available for some time yet.. but it's not going to reach a saturation point.. not many developers will be "oooh.. should we support Maemo5 and Maemo6" when the next device comes out, especially when they might already be asking "should we support android, iphone, winmo 7 and maybe even S60/Symbian^3?" two Maemo platforms is just not healthy for anyone..
You could try selling it, but who'd buy something that might be end of life in 3 months.. or you could spend the time enjoying it and its quirkyness until the Nnextdevice appears and upgrade to that!
That's what I'll be doing (why do I keep giving Nokia money?!)
Who knows, maybe another manufacturer might make a Meego device that trumps the next Nokia device.. If Meego isn't Nokia only, other people might be making bigger better shiner devices (ones whose USB ports aren't held in place with luck)
Granted you might loose all the fabulous PC software Nokia provide by jumping ship... wait.. wait a minute.. none of their PC software works with the N900 anyway!!!
Still, it'll be interesting to see what happens!! I knew the N900 was a stepping stone so I'm really not fussed.. but at the same time, I can appreciate others might be seriously upset..
I bought an N97 with its pittyful internal flash storage.. less than 6 months later, the N97mini came out with double the capacity making the N97, for the first time, usable!! was a irritated.. very.. was I surprised.. not at all.. c'mon, it's NOKIA!!! It's what they do!!
Maybe intel will drag them kicking and screaming into some sort of order!! That'd be neat!

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  • Status update for MeeGo on the N900

    Here's a copy of the text sent by Harri Hakulinen from Nokia. He is the project lead for MeeGo on the N900. This message was sent to the MeeGo developer mailing list just now:
    Hello MeeGos !
    This is brief status update of "MeeGo to N900" project. This project is currently running as Nokia project, and I am Nokia project lead for it. The current closed mode of development is not the target for us at all, but rather transitional condition. As already discussed by Valtteri in TSG meeting, we are looking into going more open mode shortly. One reason why we have done this on this way is that at the same time we have been trying to handle opening of many currenly closed components that are needed in MeeGo and to build feasible MeeGo images for N900.
    However, a lot of related work is already done completely open, you can find more info from places like ofono.org, connman.net and meego.gitorious.org . So if you are eager to contribute or want to closely follow whats happening, please work on those.
    As you know, we have delivered working MeeGo images for N900 as part of first code drop in the end of March. At that state we were using older kernel version on N900 than on Atom side, as we used the same kernel (.28) than what is used in Maemo 5 based products today. We ended up doing that simply because lack of time to contribute and port all the drivers to the newer kernels.
    Now, for the upcoming May release of MeeGo, we are going to use the same kernel version (.33) than Atom based devices are using. For that we need to submit number of ARM-architecture patches to MeeGo as well, because many of the required ones have just been contibuted upstream kernel and were not available in .33 version originally.
    We have already enabled most of the main drivers, like LCD, GFX, Wlan and BT. Still, there is a lot to do in order to enable .33 on N900, like audio drivers, and modem subsystem including SSI buss driver, modem data and audio drivers etc. Our adaptation guys are in fact contributing those modem subsystem related drivers as we speak, and if you are following kernel mailing lists you can see how that goes on.  
    Besides of enabling the new kernel, we are working with number of smaller and bigger issues for N900. Starting from the beginning, we are now based on ARMv7 combiled code, so the code should be better optimised for N900 now. ARMv5 compilation that was in use for code drop will still be there, and it also seems to be used at least by community project that is planning to release MeeGo for good old N810 tablets
    Also, we are planning to enable dual booting of Maemo 5 and MeeGo for the upcoming release. So that will be offered as 3rd way to setup MeeGo to N900, including the existing "native" MeeGo only on N900 and chroot based MeeGo on Maemo 5 setups. Taking the dual boot mode into use likely includes upgrade to Maemo5 kernel as well, but that should not be big issue in the process of enabling that.
    As I don't want to go ahead of others working on MeeGo architecture and other issues I will stop now, but I will report again when we have more to tell about the subject.
    Br,
    // Harri

    Here's another update..
    It seems that MeeGo on the N900 is not directly being driven by Nokia! It's an open project.. so the net result is MeeGo on the N900 may look and feel very different to Meego on the N900's sucessor
    Either way, I'm certainly greatful for their efforts!
    Hello Meego's,
    As indicated in my previous mail about "MeeGo for N900" status, we were planning to open up our MeeGo work around N900. Now I am happy to announce, that we are there
    First, to make it absolute clear for everybody: This is about open MeeGo adaptation to N900 device.
    Like any other MeeGo project, it is open source project for all applicaple purposes, and does NOT directly have links to any potential Nokia product or potential product plans. So, based on this or any other of my posts, please do NOT start or continue speculation of upcoming Nokia MeeGo releases. That is practically not helpfull, and mostly only takes our time when we need to explain our words and actions in detail to various directions. 
    From our part, we are trying to implement the open development model that has been discussed now so many times around MeeGo. On practical terms, we are trying to work based on proposal by Carsten Munk, see
    http://wiki.meego.com/Proposal_for_Best_Practices_for_working_in_a_MeeGo_team 
    We have already created some resources that will be used by the team, you can learn about those and the upcoming ones from http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900. We have IRC channel for realtime discussion, we will use meego-dev mailing list for normal discussions and announcements, and we will have Gitorius project for code.
    We will evolve our practicies during the work, so if you are interested, stay tuned to those channels. I belive that soon we are also able to figure out, what is best way for community members to help us in development, and then effectively be part of the team. 
    I would also like to use this as opportunity to introduce the team behind this work (so far) and also thank them about their hard work and long hours. We have team that consist of some Nokia subcontractors and also growing team of Nokia personel:
    "MeeGo for N900" team (so far)
    - Cybercom Turku team; Marko Saukko, Jouni Peltonen, Sami Sirkiä, Jari Smura and Luka Milovanov.
    - Cybercom Tampere team; Kalle Lampila,Teemu Tuominen,Tuukka Mäkinen and Ville Marjusaari.
    - Carsten Munk via Nomovok
    - Jarkko Nikula via Atomide
    - Jan-Simon Möller from Linuxfoundation
    - Nokia team; Alexander Kanevskiy, Felipe Contreras, Markus Lehtonen, Ameya Palande, Sakari Poussa, Roger Quadros and me.
    In addition to official project team, many Nokia people have helped us despite their hectic daily work, even with their free time. Most of them are driven by the desire to open, repurpose and upstream all relevant sw that has been originally created for Maemo 5 based N900 product during previous years.
    Marko, Jouni, Sami & Luka and Markus were working with me already on last year when we did prototypes and interoperability tests of Maemo & Moblin stuff combined in different ways. Based on those we had pretty good picture of what we are doing and why. 
    And of course, we have had very good and productive co-operation with various Intel teams since those times. Anas Nashif and many others from Intel's MeeGo team have done a lot for us by enabling ARM stuff in MeeGo OBS and repositories.
    Last but not least, I want to give special thanks to Stskeeps (alias Carsten Munk . He has teached us how to operate on open, and he has also done respectable amount of this work since early days of Meego. In addition to that, I belive that his earlier work on Maemo community and on Mer project has in fact inspired all of us and shown a way to MeeGo alredy years ago.
    Br,
    //Harri

  • Custom meego ui on the n900 !!!!!!

    Yes !! the digia custom meego ui running on the n900, thats right, not meego, a meego with the awesomest (if thats a word) custom ui i've ever seen .
    remember your looking at one months work by a single developer, its obviously nowhere near a finished or usable state, but the potential for alternative UI's is promising and this concept UI looks awesome.
    and don't forget that levono tablet in the video has more hardware specs than the n900 .
    but this is one months, yes more to come, man do i love this device or what .
    anyway here is the VIDEO .
    Reality is wrong....dreams are for real... 2pac .
    don't forget to hit that green kudos

    Birol wrote:
    what about nokias ui for the next meego device? I hope that that dont use the standard ui of meego just with another theme because that ui is a little bit boring... But the UI of digia is great, nokia should do something like this... that would be great...
    dude you can run multiple ui's, they are like themes, look its like nitdroid on the n900, you can get it to load the htc sense ui, samsung touchwizard......
    Reality is wrong....dreams are for real... 2pac .
    don't forget to hit that green kudos

  • The Future Of The N900?

    Hello,
    It was hard enough for me to fathom out what was going on in favor of the N900 before I heard about the Microsoft announcement.
    It seems Nokia have got bigger concerns for the future of themselves than to be concerned about a past  product?
    As a layman it seems the N900 is good phone but will be ultimately be limited by it's processor. I assume like computers this will increase unless there are limitations.
    BUT, it does seem that all these names I've heard of since owning a N900 - Maemo, Meego, Moblin, Intel, Qt, Ovi Beta do not  represent a part of the future in the grand scheme of things for Nokia. I can understand that if Microsoft is necessary for survival.
    I have no experience of Ipod / HTC Andriod but it does seem these have stolen the march whilst Nokia have been floundering. I really don't know if I move away from the Nokia N900 if I would be pleasantly surprised or wish for it back.
    In the meantime if the N900 has a future interesting or otherwise it would be good to know as upgrade is round the corner and unless the competition are not to be missed, I am happy to stick with the N900 as it does the business for me.
    The thing is I shouldn't need to be thinking like this but it is not obvious to me where the Nokia successor to it is.
    I am very open to responses to my thoughts, which may need correcting. I might not even be on the right track, but it's funny how I am the only person in my group of friends with a Nokia, never mind a N900.
    I would also like to mention that cpitchford has helped me in the past and I consider him to be the man in the know by far. I was gutted to read a recent post how he felt let down. 
    I favor quality brand loyalty but this seems to questionable these days. 

    hi,
    i do agree with you!! 
    even after losing my 1st nokia n900, i cud not digest any other phone as similar and doing-business for me.
    hence to asnwer all easy options i bought again my 2nd n900.
    Certainly there is no match to its convinence, leave apart its processor. 
    I am also amongst those who r eagerly waiting for new version, but the possibility seems to b diminishing .
    hope nokia will revive this exclusive-not-for masses-smartphone!!!

  • The n900 is sstill rolling baby yeah.

    guys i found this on engadget '...It's clear that Nokia is leaving room in its product portfolio for a high-end MeeGo device. Amazingly, the N900 and its ARM Cortex-A8 processor will still be the most powerful Nokia handset you can buy even after all the new Symbian^3 devices announced at Nokia World go on sale... more than 13 months after it was originally announced. While Nokia told us that it had nothing to announce about a timelin...'
    yeah baby we r still the best, here is the ful article http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/15/nokias-vp-of-design-has-a-plan-to-crack-the-us-market-with-meeg/
    still the best device from the biggest phones company in the world....
    next stop meego port for the n900.....
    Reality is wrong....dreams are for real... 2pac .
    don't forget to hit that green kudos

    I found if you "move" the messages you want to the "Trash" they will go there... then you can "delete" them or keep them as they will remain on the web that way...
    Just SO HAPPY that this imap setting leaves Yahoo "available" to all my other devices.  SO HAPPY!!!
    Sandy

  • How to save the n900

    yes nokia is making a big mistake killing the n900, come on, its not only the best device by Nokia, its one of the best devices ever, so i don't any idea why nokia is planning to kill the maemo 5, and leave all the n900 users with 10 apps from the ovi store, so i was doing some thinking and here is what you have to do nokia, first of all you will need to do something to win you some money and sell even more n900sbefore you revive it, so here is my idea, launch new n900s with different colors, lets say white, gray, the n97 mini colors, even a 2 tone colors would be nice, than start reviving the device, its not cool living a high resolution, 3d accelerator phone with that small number of apps, i'm not saying we want the meego on the device, but you guys should start working on putting the games we've seen in the ovi store( that rollecostar game...), and than we want that flash 10.1 on the device, and java would be nice, (go to www.mobile9.com and the n900s section is full of apps, but they r all java), and how about a decent section in the ovi store for the n900, its an open source ! the android is an open source, and it has 10000 times more apps than the n900, so yes more games and apps please, and i have a nice idea two, how about a n-gage section for the n900, for more games and apps, i mean if you guys started launching more apps and games on this great device, it won't heart, because first of all all these games will be supported on meego, so you will be saving some time, and second of all i'm not saying all the apps and games we want are going to be free, the n900 is a great device, the maemo5 is awesome, and the interface is amazing, and i will like to see that the ovi store now has google maps for the n900, nimbuzz for the n900, fifa 10, need for speed shift, asphalte, flash player 10.1 beta, fring, rollercoster, document editor, twitter, facebook for n900( a good one with chat and all that like on the iphone), opera mobile 10, a call recorder, snaptu, a clock widget, ea mobile games, .......... i bet nokia will make a lots of money out of the ovi store if they did this, and they will sell tons of n900s. so please nokia try doing something for this wonderful device. 
    Reality is wrong....dreams are for real... 2pac .
    don't forget to hit that green kudos

    1. nokia dont make most of the ovi store apps. those apps are made by third parties and are then scrutinised by nokia before they hit the ovi store.
    2. n900 is pretty much entirely open source. if you want open source apps, go to the apps manager and download section.
    3. n gage games arent really that great.
    4. facebook... just use the actual page, you can do everything you can do on a pc.
    5. there are call recorders and clock widgets in the apps manager sections. abi word is in the extras devel (or the other section)
    6. and half of those apps youve mentioned would need to be created by their respective companies, or a company that has the licence to redistribute them, like gameloft. last time i checked, nokia doesnt own fifa, of need for speed, so they technically dont have the rights to it. 
    and flash 10.1b is extremely buggy, especially with hardware acceleration enabled. perhaps it will be ported once they fix the bugs.

  • The n900 can't die, it can do everything

    Well alots of you guys lost hope in the n900, after everyone said that nokia "killed" it, really ??? look where the device is now,
    you can get android 2.2 via nitdroid, you can overclock to 1 ghz in a push of a button, you can have up to 9 homescreens with desktop+,you can watch most of the flash 10 animations and videos on the web using 'tweak flash version', you can remotly control your pc via vnc viewer
    , you can have remote xp !! via rdesktop, you can jailbreak your ps3 using your n900, you can run like 6 OSs on the same device (froyo, windows98, mac os, ubunto, eclair, donut, debian...),you can have extreme speed with the custom transitions in the blac plastic theme, you can do voice guided navigation with modtana,you can control your tv with irreco, .... and this is only a strat or an introduction to what can device really do,
    the n900 is like 2pac, they killed him too soon, but we all listen to the 2pac rap, now after 16 years of his death,, most of the people still thinks that he's the best rapper ever, so is the n900, best smartphone/computer/tablet/thingy ever .
    long live maemo5 and the mighty n900, it can do everything...
    Reality is wrong....dreams are for real... 2pac .
    don't forget to hit that green kudos

    I wouldn't go as far as to say the best phone ever made..... not now. 6 months ago, maybe.
    A lot of manufacturers have taken some of it's best features and only slightly improved on them. The screen for instance.... The iPhone 4 screen is actually only another 32 pixels per inch more than the N900, and others are still trying to beat the resolution but ending up with devices that could double up as surf-boards.
    The web browsing, despite Flash 10.1.xx is still very cumbersome on some of the rival models, simply because at this moment in time Flash 10.1.xx is so buggy and troublesome as a plugin, I'm certainly not in a hurry to get it on my N900.
    I'd say the N900 broke the mould, just like the Commodore Amiga did in the 80's. Anyone remember that one? It was the machine that started the high end graphics and 3D video editing race, it also invented the multimedia race. People in their thousands sold their PCs to buy the Amiga, because they got fed up of playing Falcon on a 4 colour display. In reality it "kickstarted" the home computer market.
    As for the N900, I'll remember it as I remember the Amiga. The N900 has proved that Nokia can make a mobile computer, and in that respects it will be the device to compare other mobile computers. It's opened up the full web experience for handsets and it's driven the final nail into the coffin of the antiquated WAP service, thus dragging the networks screaming and kicking into the 21st Century. Some of them are putting up a fight with restrictions and blocks, but the more handsets we see with full web capabilities, the more they are backing into a corner.
    The Commodore Amiga, and indeed the CD32 (the grand-daddy of the console market) have pride of place in the Science Museum because of their cult status. I think the N900 should join them for the same reasons.

  • *My* frank opinion of the N900

    *My* opinion of the N900
    I know there are a few threads about that address this but I felt that it wouldn't be so bad to restart the conversation once in a while.
    I got my N900 a week and a half ago and am right in the middle of deciding between these 3 choices:
    - keep using the N900
    - go back to my N97 and keep the N900 in the hope that within a few weeks/months Maemo and apps will vindicate us
    - go back to the N97 and send the N900 back and wait for months until Maemo gets updated or even wait for the next Maemo device.
    Here is in summary my opinion of the N900: it's a great device/computer but it's a lousy phone. I am kind of critical of the phone below even though I really like it and really want to use it more. So please read with that in mind.
    What makes me optimistic is that all the problems I will be mentioning can and most will be fixed by software updates. We are not talking about dismal memory or scratched lenses like the N97 or wobbly sliders like the N95.
    So please be kind, here goes my N900 impressions/opinions:
    Hardware
    ++++
    - Solid build. It's huge and heavy but, surprisingly, I don't mind too much. It strikingly contrasts with N97. this is a taste thing.
    - Keyboard is great. Much better feel than N97.
    - Humongous amount of RAM (for now. Once again, aslight dig at N97)
    - Device does not fit in my Columbia khakis' phone pocket.
    - I really like the tilt flip of N97 and as such currently dislike the flat slide for N900. I'm sure this is an acquired taste.
    - I prefer the keyboard layout of N97 though the physical keyboard on N900 is better.
    - Kickstand is flimsy
    - I still think MicroSD slot should be accessible without removing battery cover. Yes, it still allows for hotswapping so that's still good.
    Maemo
    ++++
    - Multitasking is great.
    - Task List shortcut *and* effects are nice.
    - Effects in general are great.
    - I liked the desktops and widgets.
    - I *do* want my portrait mode for everything. This is a huge downer. Everything is in ladscape except the phone dialer.
    - Maemo should implement the "hold-the-key-to-get-the-alternate-character" keyboard scheme that is fairly standard on other Nokia phones.
    - On the virtual keyboard, why would the '.' not be on the same slate as the alpha? Makes no sense to have to switch to the other slate just to punctuate.
    Communications
    ++++
    - I did not think Skype integration would be that important but I love it. SIP and other networks from the dialer as well.
    - I goes and gets your contacts' profile info when you are logged in to a network (Skype, Google Talk, etc) Pretty handy.
    - eMail app does HTML. And pretty well too.
    - Need a way to easily get to the phone app from anywhere.
    - No support for network codes *#num# etc...
    - No Speed dialing
    - No sound profiles! My Nokia 6310 and SE T39 from 2001 did this! **bleep**?
    - No Skype video calling (Fring does it!)
    - eMail app should allow me to view emails in fullscreen mode.
    - The whole message notification system is not very well thought out. If I leave for some time and just unlock the phone, there is not obvious way to tell that I got any new messages. It's only when I do a task list flick that I see that a conversation has resumed. Yes, the notification light flashes but nothing obvious is on the display.
    - There is no obvious notification that I have missed calls. Same as message notification above.
    - It seems to me that the internet connection is never disconnected. Even when all I have that needs the connection is the email app to poll every 30 minutes, the internet (whether 3G or Wifi) icon never goes away. This could be a huge battery saver if optimized.
    - On the flip side, it also appears that if I just turn on the phone, it does not automatically initiate internet connections so then my email does not get refreshed unlees I remember to do it first by hand. Pretty inconvenient if you ask me.
    Music Player
    ++++
    - It's ok. Not a big critic so I am neither excited not negative about it.
    - A FM receiver on the device but no FM software? **bleep**?
    - Creating playlists is not clear. I still am sot sure how it's done after 10 days.
    Video Player
    ++++
    - Broad format support
    - No support for changing setting when watching a movie. I have some 16:9 movies that it shows at 4:3 and vice versa with no way to change. This makes it useless.
    Web Browsing
    ++++
    - Browser is very good.
    - Love the (albeit limited) gesture shortcuts. Slide from left to hover (ok this one isn't that cool or clear,) slide from right for history, spiral on the screen to zoom in or out.
    Maps and GPS
    ++++
    - GPS lock is much faster than other phones I've used. This is great in conjunction with Camera for geotagging purposes.
    - I don't know what the Maps application is doing on there. It can't do anything. Search finds almost nothing, directions are barely average and no turn-by-turn. Please at least steal or beg Google to make Google Maps for Maemo.
    Camera
    ++++
    - Pretty decent. Better than N97 in my opinion.
    - Geotagging is much faster than N97 even though it seems to tag too early so sometimes it's off because it uses the cellular info before a full GPS lock.
    - Love the 16:9 mode. I realize one can do it post in Gimp but it's still cool.
    - No Xenon flash means photos not as good as N82 in the dark.
    - Once again, same problem as with N82, when taking a portrait photo, Nokia decided to put lanyard slot on "top" of the device which makes the lanyard sometime get in the way of the shot.
    - Photo browser could be so much more.
    Applications
    ++++
    - Fennec, anyone? http://firefox.com/m
    - Obviously, I wish the Maemo catalog of apps were as big as that of Symbian apps but we'll get there, right?
    Office/Organizer
    ++++
    - PDF viewer included.
    - Pretty basic so close to useless.
    - No syncML support so can't sync with GooSync or NuevaSync.
    - I think a device of this caliber/price/power should just have office applications built-in. I don't care if it's DataViz or OpenOffice or AbiWord/Gnumeric but it's bunk that we only get a trial of Documents-to-Go. Anyone know if OpenOffice or AbiWord is coming out for Maemo soon?
    Other
    ++++
    - I am on T-Mobile so 1700 3G rocks.
    - I love doing apt-get in the command line. I am a geek!
    - This has been talked about everywhere and opinions/mileage vary but for me battery life has been dismal. As a test, I charged it up before going to bed: 9pm and by 7am it said it was half empty. All I had running was my mail checking every 30min and all my "identities" were inactive. No Wifi usage just 3G. It dies by 11am. This was after a week of cycling so that battery had a chance to be normalized.
    - Wifi also killed the battery even if it was not connected all the time. This is a known bug so it should be fixed soon.
    - For a > USD500 device, it's stupid that I don't get a full User Guide in the box.
    - Why do they insist on Ovi store. It's **bleep** for Symbian phones, it'll be **bleep** for Maemo.
    As I said, some of these are already on the Maemo bugs database, some are widely known issues and some are just personal preferences that may or may never be remedied.
    I hope it helps people who are thinking about getting the device and I am hoping that the feedback I get here will help me decide whether to return mine or not.
    Message Edited by haritia on 31-Dec-2009 12:27 AM
    h

    So it appears that almost none of the firmware fixable items were addressed in Maemo 5/PR1.1. Out of the 23 issues I had that could be fixed via firmware (10 were either hardware or other issues that were not), only the #6 got a partial (and unofficial?) change: you can now browse the web in portrait mode by keying in ctrl+alt+o on the keyboard. Still waiting for another update I guess. I really do miss the phone, it just did not make sense to own and tie up that much money in a device I will not use as my primary phone. although the < USD450 price at Dell is very very tempting ;-)
    Still waiting, Nokia.
    For reference, below are my issues from original post.
    haritia wrote:
    *My* opinion of the N900
    Hardware
    1- Device does not fit in my Columbia khakis' phone pocket.
    2- I really like the tilt flip of N97 and as such currently dislike the flat slide for N900. I'm sure this is an acquired taste.
    3- I prefer the keyboard layout of N97 though the physical keyboard on N900 is better.
    4- Kickstand is flimsy
    5- I still think MicroSD slot should be accessible without removing battery cover. Yes, it still allows for hotswapping so that's still good.
    Maemo
    6- I *do* want my portrait mode for everything. This is a huge downer. Everything is in ladscape except the phone dialer.
    7- Maemo should implement the "hold-the-key-to-get-the-alternate-character" keyboard scheme that is fairly standard on other Nokia phones.
    8- On the virtual keyboard, why would the '.' not be on the same slate as the alpha? Makes no sense to have to switch to the other slate just to punctuate.
    Communications
    9- Need a way to easily get to the phone app from anywhere.
    10- No support for network codes *#num# etc...
    11- No Speed dialing
    12- No sound profiles! My Nokia 6310 and SE T39 from 2001 did this! **bleep**?
    13- No Skype video calling (Fring does it!)
    14- eMail app should allow me to view emails in fullscreen mode.
    15- The whole message notification system is not very well thought out. If I leave for some time and just unlock the phone, there is not obvious way to tell that I got any new messages. It's only when I do a task list flick that I see that a conversation has resumed. Yes, the notification light flashes but nothing obvious is on the display.
    16- There is no obvious notification that I have missed calls. Same as message notification above.
    17- It seems to me that the internet connection is never disconnected. Even when all I have that needs the connection is the email app to poll every 30 minutes, the internet (whether 3G or Wifi) icon never goes away. This could be a huge battery saver if optimized.
    18- On the flip side, it also appears that if I just turn on the phone, it does not automatically initiate internet connections so then my email does not get refreshed unlees I remember to do it first by hand. Pretty inconvenient if you ask me.
    Music Player
    19- A FM receiver on the device but no FM software? **bleep**?
    20- Creating playlists is not clear. I still am sot sure how it's done after 10 days.
    Video Player
    21- No support for changing setting when watching a movie. I have some 16:9 movies that it shows at 4:3 and vice versa with no way to change. This makes it useless.
    Maps and GPS
    22- I don't know what the Maps application is doing on there. It can't do anything. Search finds almost nothing, directions are barely average and no turn-by-turn. Please at least steal or beg Google to make Google Maps for Maemo.
    Camera
    23- No Xenon flash means photos not as good as N82 in the dark.
    24- Once again, same problem as with N82, when taking a portrait photo, Nokia decided to put lanyard slot on "top" of the device which makes the lanyard sometime get in the way of the shot.
    25- Photo browser could be so much more.
    Applications
    26- Obviously, I wish the Maemo catalog of apps were as big as that of Symbian apps but we'll get there, right?
    Office/Organizer
    27- Pretty basic so close to useless.
    28- No syncML support so can't sync with GooSync or NuevaSync.
    29- I think a device of this caliber/price/power should just have office applications built-in. I don't care if it's DataViz or OpenOffice or AbiWord/Gnumeric but it's bunk that we only get a trial of Documents-to-Go. Anyone know if OpenOffice or AbiWord is coming out for Maemo soon?
    Other
    30- This has been talked about everywhere and opinions/mileage vary but for me battery life has been dismal. As a test, I charged it up before going to bed: 9pm and by 7am it said it was half empty. All I had running was my mail checking every 30min and all my "identities" were inactive. No Wifi usage just 3G. It dies by 11am. This was after a week of cycling so that battery had a chance to be normalized.
    31- Wifi also killed the battery even if it was not connected all the time. This is a known bug so it should be fixed soon.
    32- For a > USD500 device, it's stupid that I don't get a full User Guide in the box.
    33- Why do they insist on Ovi store. It's **bleep** for Symbian phones, it'll be **bleep** for Maemo.
    Message Edited by haritia on 31-Dec-2009 12:27 AM
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  • How to sync the N900 calendars with the computer?

    Good evening everyone,
    I am a user of the N900 since February 2010 and it's my favorite phone of all the phones that i ever had. I really enjoy every second when i use it
    However, I have a "little" trouble now.
    The touchscreen doesn't respond normally anymore. When I touch it there's no reaction. The Calendar app or the Settings for example don't open. When I touch in the middle for example something completely different opens: desktop configuration. When I slide from one desktop to the other it stops in the middle and goes back to the previous one instead of moving to the next one. Or sometimes there's no response at all and I have to restart the phone, although it doesn't improve anything. I don't know how this happened because the other night I could normally use it, I set an alarm clock. And in the morning I couldn't turn this alarm off because the screen broke down during the night lol :/ what can be done to make the screen work again? Can I do something myself at home or do I have to take it for repair?
    So now I want to make on the laptop a backup of all the data I have on the phone. There was a moment when the screen worked normally again, so I took advantage of this situation to turn on the Bluetooth. I synced most of the data. It's a piece of cake for the pics, videos, contacts and messages. But I am unable to find a way of syncing the Calendar. Ovi Suite doesn't have this option so I tried with Nokia PC Suite. I managed to sync only a part of all the entries I have there :/ I realized that it syncs only the default one ("General" I think it's called in english?). I have 7 other calendars like "Work", "Fun" or "Events". How can I save those calendars on my laptop? Please
    Any advice/help is most welcome! Waiting

    Are you people serious? Sorry for being so direct, but this is supposed to be a help forum for Nokia users. NO ONE is able to give me even 1 solution??????? or at least hints??
    As always I can't count on others for help and have to do everything myself even though I'm not a smartphone geek. After a few days of search I managed to find a way to maybe sync the created calendars. But I have to create a profile in Outlook (what the hell?). Okay, I created a profile in Outlook according to the steps mentioned on a website and I still can't sync the calendars with Nokia Ovi Suite! WHY??? In addition, in the settings of the N900 in "Transfer & Sync" when I want to create a new data transfer profile I can't find my laptop as a device in the Bluetooth search list. I am UNABLE to sync/transfer data. I'll try now with the USB cable...
    PLEASE HELP OUT.

  • Nokia's price policy of the N900

    Folks, in my mind the N900 is *far* too expensive. No doubt, developing such a device may swallow millions, but, for 500 Euros I get a 15" laptop or a netbook with a UMTS stick and flatrate, whereas Nokia offers a telephone with a small 3,5" display.... Being a Linux enthusiast myself I really love the idea of Maemo, but at such a high price? I really wonder whether it is not better to buy a laptop, put openSUSE Linux on it and a UMTS stick, more software, more possibilities, more apps. What would you guys say would be a reasonable price? In my mind between 350 and 400 Euros, 400 being the pain barrier.

    couple of points here:
    1.  when they announced the release of the N900 they immediately dropped the price of the N97 to not be above it.
    2. i dont think that the $600+ dollars in US is a big deal...but here is why
    for the general user/parent/advanced user
    you get a decent camera - $200
    you get a decent video recorder - $200
    you get a decent audio recorder - $100
    you get a decent video player - $100
    you get a great pda - $150
    you get a phone - $Free with activation but lets say $100
    you get your sms/mms
    you get your social networks integrated - need a laptop for $300
    you get your mp3 player - $50
    you get your full internet experience - use the laptop
    you get your email - use the laptop
    you get your office products (full versions will come for sure ie-word/excel/ppt) - use the laptop
    you get your gaming (both new and nastalgae/emulators) - cost of psp/DS/etc with other limitations
    you get your instant messangers - use the laptop
    you get your gps and navigation - $200
    the list can still grow.
    that alone is just $1400 not including the multiple cases and accessories for each, or the bulk you would have to lug around and it is all fairly instant, in the palm of your hand and fits in your pocket.
    $600 doesnt sound so bad when you actually use them...actually, it's quite a deal...oh, and free software!
    if you like this, kudo it!

  • The N900 preorder-ers thread

    Hi,
    I didn't see a thread for N900 preorderers, I'm guessing this is in the right section as I *think* it's classed as an NSeries. If it's not, can someone please move it to the relevant section?
    Anyway, this thread is for people who have preordered the N900 and want to discuss it, ask questions about it etc.
    I preordered mine yesterday (+10% discount with Quidco). I have an N97 but I'm getting rid of that as soon as I've determined whether or not the N900 is worth the premium.
    So I have a couple of questions:
    1. Does anyone have any idea when the N900 will ship from the Nokia store?
    2. Will the phone be useable at all in vertical mode? I know it's an "internet tablet", but I do find vertical modes very useful for long lists, and for one handed texting.

    llblackenedll wrote:
    Interesting, you wonder why (supposedly this close to release) Nokia hasn't actually given any dates.
    The N97 UK firm launch date was 3 weeks (iirc) before its launch.. soooo.. if there's no firm date yet.. I recon it'll be at least 3 weeks.. which puts it into November.. Maybe it'll be sooner, but as someone pointed out.. this is not a flagship phone, the N97 (and the N97 mini) are the flagship phones.. so I don't imagine there'll be much of a song and dance.. It feels a bit more "viral" in its marketing strategy..
    You can download the final Maemo6 SDK (runs nicely on ubuntu) and have a look around that. The platform is "open" in that it is, for the most part, built on open source products. Nokia's components aren't open, they've very closed. Integrating with them comes down to published API (in particular, DBUS) I'm really interested to know how the messaging component integrates as I'd like to implement a bluetooth service that requires access to inbound call and message information.
    The platform is pretty solid, but I'm keen to see how well documented the new stuff is. I've been playing with QT 4.6 and it is such a shame Maemo 5 missed that boat.. I've already ported a few QT apps to the N810 and I'm having a go at porting the same apps to Symbian. That interests me the most, but I've been playing with Maemo for years now... 

  • Traditional TFT LCD of the N900 and the new SLCD !

    Can anyone here explain me is S-LCD the next generation of the TFT LCD does it offer a dramatic improvement in display ( I am not really looking out for a very technical explanation just need to know from a user perspective) is it great fun watching in SLCD compared to the traditional TFT LCD display that the N900 has. if yes, How much the difference between the TFT LCD of the N900 and SLCD would be ?

    @CP...
    such a nice post...needs to be said again without needing to re-finger it in!    +1 m8..
    cpitchford wrote:I meant it's not the right place to ask as there are other forums that seem to specialise in talking about LCD panels
    So I really dont know what you mean when you say the resolution is the same between OLED and SLCD...It is not the same
    Huh??
    OLED and SLCD do not define resolution.. you're wrong for thinking that.. They are types of displays.. OLED is not fixed to 800x480, SLCD is not fixed to 960x640.. Its like saying diesel engines are 2liter where as petrol engines are 1.5....
    OK.. The HTC Desire (and google Nexus one) originally shipped with OLED displays..
    Due to shortages of OLED panels, HTC decided to change the display type to the more commonly available LCD.. Now HTC Desires are LCD..
    However..
    The resolution is exactly the same.. they are both still 800x480.. The type of screen does NOT dictate the resolution of the screen..
    You could have a crud low resoltion 640x360 OLED screen on the Nokia N8, and a high res 800x480 LCD screen on the N900.. both are 3.5" screens!
    As for the difference in visual quality of OLED and LCD:
    OLED screens are tiny light bulbs.. each pixel produces its own light (actually multiple red, green blue lights per pixel)
    LCD, however works using filters.. There is a white light  behind the screen, and the LCD lets some of the light through coloured "holes".. That is the MAIN difference between LCD and OLED..
    All OLED displays work like this and all LCD displays work like this..
    So, because it is easier to make a filter of a certain colour, LCD screens can often produce more realistic colours..
    OLED displays however, have the ability to go completely dark.. Look a black screen on a LCD display (like your phone) it still glows.. thats because the LCD cannot filter out ALL of the white back light.. it just filters out most..
    OLEDs, however, when they are black they are OFF meaning they produce ZERO light!!
    LCDs range from blight to dim.. whereas OLED range from even brighter to totally black..
    This is called the contrast ratio..
    It also might mean OLED displays seem "saturated" the colours are too vibrant..
    Now, that's OLED v LCD
    Going back to your question in your second post..
    The Desire PS IPS LCD display (that's the S-LCD display if you want a brand name) is technically a lower definition because the pixels are larger when compared to the N900..
    The colour reproduction (how accurate the colours are) and the contrast ratios however will be BETTER than the N900 because the Desire can display 16Million colours rather than 65thousand.. and the LCD technology is a generation newer than that used in the N900...
    The N900 screen, although high resolution for its size, is fairly old tech..

  • Getting the n900

    Guys i should be getting the n900 in two weeks, it seems like the best phone in the market, but i have a few questions, first i live in lebanon, so will my n900 gets fm transmitter enabled ?? And guys i don't know anything about flashing the device, or x-terminal, or anything like that (new to linux), so is the n900 the best phone for me??? I'm fine with the normal things o n the n900, but i'm not a hacker (now i own an e75 ), did any e-series guy upgraded to the n900 and had any problems ?? And one last thing , will installing apps from the devel and the extra devel.... In the app manager cause any damage to the n900 's software.
    Reality is wrong....dreams are for real... 2pac .
    don't forget to hit that green kudos

    Guys i did my search and i love the n900 from the reviews and the youtube videos, i don't mind one profile anyway i use two, normal and silent (the n900 has them ), and contacts groups, ringtones...... Don't mean anything for me, and i don't have any problem with 12 hours battery life, in fact, thats great for me. I have an e75 so i'm in landscape mode almost all the time so no problem their two. Anyway what kind of hacking can u do with the n900 1-is it hacking websites and getting free stuff from the web ? 2-is it hacking e-mails and facebook profiles ? 3-or is it hacking the phone to take full control of it ?? . Now i may have a problem with apps, i'm more than fine with the number of apps that u can get from the app manager after enabling the maemo (devel, ....) to get tons of more apps, but i heard that these apps are beta and will cause damage to the phone, is that true ?? Or some of the apps ar a bit luggy and thats all ?? thanks for ur help guys. Ps : i wrote from my e75 using opera mini 4, and now the opera mobile 10 is aviable on the n900.
    Reality is wrong....dreams are for real... 2pac .
    don't forget to hit that green kudos

  • A Better Media Player for the N900???

    Just curious if anyone knows of a better media player for the N900....one that will allow the building of playlist like the N95 8GB did.  Basically just want to be able to better categorize my music and have specific playlists for different events...workouts, relaxation etc.  Thanks in advance
    Solved!
    Go to Solution.

    fardawg wrote:
    I just removed the 16GB SD card on which I had all my music stored.  I put it right back in....booted the phone up and now the phone doesn't even recognize that the card is installed.  Previously, it showed up in Settings....memory as N900 Micro.  Now it just shows a red icon indicating that no SD card is installed, when in fact it is.  What's up with this phone?  One glitch after another.  First it fails to find any contacts when creating a new SMS (I have 194 contacts in fact)....now it won't even recognize that the mini SD is installed.  I'm seriously considering returning it.
    Have you replaced the back on the phone? The phone won't find the card without the back in place.
    And you don't have to switch the phone off to remove the card, either.

  • No Desktop Browsing for the N900 !

    Gosh ! I must say I am really dissapointed. I thought the N900 very proudly boasts about rendering only Desktop website pages no matter what the website is...But To my utter shock yesterday I tried logging on to one site (You know one of those sites '@##$' which cannot be mentioned publicly, If you know what I mean ) and it gave me Mobile Page like an WAP site. Goodness Gracious have I been made a fool here by having made understood that the N900 only returns Desktop website pages..No Matter what the website is...And which is not the case currently with me.

    I still dont have a solution to my problem, do you have a specific solution to this problem rather then just talk about  a possibility which may suggest would have this problem. Someone has suggested me to download a App from Extra-Devel which would disguise the UA-User Agent when it asks the website to render the webpage. I am not really so keen on this solution especially if it needs to download a App from Extras-Devel, apart from this anything else that I can do. I want my N900 to be abolutely invincible in terms of atleast visiting the website is concerned. Otherwise it all defeats the whole purpose of having it which is have full desktop browsing...No Matter what the site is Business, Technology,Sports,News and yes even "PORN"  

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