MEGA 651 dual display?

Hi,
My setup is MEGA 651 with AIW ATI Radeon 8500, Win XP. As a monitor I am using Sony Grand Wega 42" LCD TV. Works great. I am using 2 connections from my video card, one is S-Video (display is somewhat blurry) and DVI (very sharp and looks like screen of a laptop). My tv allows to choose to display from different sources and those 2 connections are treated as such.
The limitation is I can only use 640X480 resolution, which is fine for movies, internet (wish I could have better resolution here).
Few days ago I got game SIMS for my kids with few expansion packs. Problem now is that they can not START the game with the resolution of 640X480, the minimum for the game is 800X600.
I found a temporary solution to use a regular monitor to start the game (I unplug DVI connector from tv and plug a regular 17" monitor into the video card), and then I switch the S-Video source on my tv to play it.
I tried to find any info if tv can support more that 640X480 but non found. If I switch to higher resolution I can not boot or if I boot in Safe Mode screen goes nuts until I reset to lower. Another option is to leave second monitor, but to use onboard VGA connector, but I can not find any info how I can use both AGP and onboard video simultaniously. Is there setting in the BIOS to enable. it seems that onboard video works only if there is no other video card installed.
Thank you for help.

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how I can use both AGP and onboard video simultaniously. Is there setting in the BIOS to enable. it seems that onboard video works only if there is no other video card installed
you can only use onboard VGA or VGA card in AGP slot - you cannot use both
have you checked for any updated drivers for your video card? i use a Geforce FX5200 in my Mega 651 for TV-out, and I can select up to 1024x768 for TV resolution (though obviously its not a really useable resolution on my CRT TV, connected with composite video) though i prefer to leave it at 800x600
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I am using 2 connections from my video card, one is S-Video (display is somewhat blurry) and DVI (very sharp and looks like screen of a laptop). My tv allows to choose to display from different sources and those 2 connections are treated as such.
if you are only using one display (your 42" Wega ) then i don't understand why you need to have both types of connections connected to it. if the Sony has a DVI input, that is the only option you should use, as even s-video is inferior to that by a mile

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Things to know before building a Mega 651 (and other things you should know afte

Okay, following hot on the heels of the "things to know" series on Mega 180 and 865, I thought I'd just chip in with this short post on what you should know before splashing out on a nice budget Mega 651
PROCESSOR SUPPORT:
The official list of supported CPUs can be found here:
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/slim_pc/slm/pro_slm_cpu_support_detail.php?UID=431&kind=4
Basically the ageing SiS651 chipset does not support Celeron / P4 cpus above 533mhz, and does NOT support the newer "Prescott" core cpus
Celeron > 400Mhz FSB
P4 Northwood > 533mhz FSB (512kb L2 cache)
MEMORY:
Basically to add to what is listed in the 865 "things to know"; from my own experience of using MSI motherboards in the past, ALWAYS use good quality branded memory, as using cheaper "generic" types inevitably leads to major problems. I know for a fact that Crucial, Kingston and Samsung types work well in MSI motherboards, and you should be okay with other high-end brands like Corsair and Geil.
DRIVERS:
DON'T bother using MSI LiveUpdate! The drivers provided on the cd supplied will work, but if you wish to download the latest drivers, you will find them here:
http://download.sis.com/
Download and install the:
Chipset Software > SiS AGP (Gart) Driver
IGP Graphics Drivers > SiS650 and 740 series
http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/dlac97-2.aspx?lineid=5&famid=12&series=8&Software=True
for Realtek AC97 Audio drivers
http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloads1-3.aspx?lineid=1&famid=3&series=16&Software=True
For Realtek Onboard Network interface
The modem drivers supplied on the CD should work, I really don't know much about them as I have never used them (sorry). Failing that, if you are connected to the internet, Windows Update should be able to find them for you.
OPERATING SYSTEM SUPPORT
MSI state that only Windows XP is supported on Mega 651 (and other Mega barebones). Other versions of Windows (98, ME, 2000) will work provided you have drivers for hardware devices, all of which are provided on the install CD or from the links supplied above.
You'll find that earlier versions of Windows won't have the drivers for the built-in card reader, so you may have to do a "google" search to get them. On my Mega 651, they are listed in Device Manager as "OEI-USB" devices.
If you haven't already got Windows XP then I suggest you consider upgrading at the earliest opportunity; Microsoft themselves no longer support Win 98 / ME and most new software is being designed to work only with Windows XP
Please note that MSI do NOT supply or support drivers for Linux; if you wish to attempt to install Linux on a Mega 651 (or other Mega PC model) you will need to obtain drivers yourself. The remote and LCD display functions will also not be available under Linux, unless some clever bod has developed drivers to do so.
MEGA RADIO AND LCD DISPLAY:
Download the Mega LiveUpdate for Mega 651 from here:
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/software/swr/spt_swr_detail.php?UID=431&kind=4
This will update your MEGA Radio program, update the BlueBird HIFi module firmware and allow you to set a "greeting" displayed on the LCD display when you switch on HiFi mode. Apart from that the LCD display serves NO other purpose in PC mode.
After updating the firmware, you should power off your Mega 651, unplug the mains power cord for a few seconds then reconnect and restart for changes to take place.
OTHER MSI SOFTWARE:
If you REALLY must try out MSI Media Center III, it does work on the Mega 651, but I don't think the remote will work correctly.
Although PCAlert 4 has been reported to work on the Mega 651 - having read the numerous problems most users have, I don't advise installing it. If you do get it to work correctly, unlike on the Mega 180 and 865, it will not display temps or fan speeds on the LCD display, as this feature only works on the 180 and 865, as they use diferent LCD displays.
EXPANSION CARDS:
Same as with other Megas, you get 1 AGP and 1 PCI slot.
The AGP slot only supports up to 4x cards; a faster card will work, but only at 4x.
Space is limited, if you decide to fit a PCI TV tuner card, you will be limited as to which AGP card you can fit. A full length card is probably not recommended, and a model with a slimline (or even passive) heatsink would be best.
A better alternative would be to go for a VGA card with built in TV tuner, such as MSI TV5200-VTDF128 or an ATI Radeon All-In-Wonder card (ATI AIW is supported in WinXP MCE05)
ON-BOARD VGA
The SiS651 chipset is pretty old now, and the on-board SiS650 VGA is not up to playing any of the latest games, as it is only DirectX 7.0 compliant and does not support Hardware Texture & Lighting. However, it is adequate for playing back DVDs as it supports hardware acceleration (in PowerDVD for example), and general video output is decent. The maximum shared video memory size is 64mb.
The Mega 651 does NOT feature TV-out as standard. You can however either buy an AGP video card which includes TV-out feature, or the Mega TV-out card (availble in UK from www.dabs.com). Please note, this card is ONLY for Mega 651, and does NOT work with the 865 model. (The 180 does however, thanks to nforce2 chipset, support TV-out as standard)
ON-BOARD AUDIO
The Realtek ALC650 AC97 audio codec offers 5.1 surround sound (with suitable speakers of course ) as well as SP-DIF for digital output.
The sound quality is quite reasonable; i'm currently listening to MP3s through a set of Creative Inspire 5.1 speakers, and its certainly good enough for me.
There are three audio connectors on the rear, they default to:
GREEN - Front speakers
BLUE - Line In
PINK - Mic
To connect surround sound speakers correctly, you need to use the Realtek audio configuration tool (located in the Taskbar by the clock). Set the speaker config to 4 or 6 channel (5.1) and then click on the boxes to the right to configure the rear ports correctly
GREEN - Front speakers
BLUE - Rear Speakers
PINK - Subwoofer / Centre Speaker
NOTE: If you do decide you want to install a PCI soundcard, be aware that you will lose the Radio function in PC mode, and for audio output in Hi-Fi mode you will need to reconnect audio plugs from your soundcard to onboard sockets. The Hi-Fi mode and Radio only work with the onboard audio.
POWER SUPPLY
All the Mega series barebones come with a 200w PSU. Don't even think about upgrading to a higher output type, as the Mega PSU is a non-standard type. A standard ATX PSU will NOT physically fit inside the Mega case. Besides which, the Mega series have a special connector which powers the Bluebird hi-fi module and on-board sound when the PC is off. And there is a special Molex power connector for the CD/DVD drive, also for that to be used when PC is off.
WINDOWS XP MCE 2005
Media Center 2005 requires a DirectX 8.1 / 9.0 compliant video card with a minimum of 64mb RAM, 128mb RAM is recommended, however, for best performance. So you will need an AGP card, because SiS do not provide any MCE-compatible drivers. The TV@anywhere TV tuner (MS8606-10) and Mega TV Tuner (MS8606-40) are not supported by MCE05, because MCE2005 requires a TV card that will provide a direct MPEG2 stream, which a PVR card such as the Hauppage PVR MCE series can do (as a hardware card, MSIs card are software only and rely on drivers to do MPEG encoding), or a dedicated DVB-T card which receives an MPEG2 signal over the air.
MEGA 651 REMOTE
If you fit an MSI TV@anywhere card to your Mega 651, the Mega remote can be used to control the MSIPVS software, providing you use the remote receiver supplied with the TV@nywhere card. The Mega remote is designed to work natively with the MSI Media Center, and MSI Mega Radio programs only.
If you wish to program the remote to operate other programs within windows, then you will need a program called Girder, and the accompanying MSI plugin, kindly provided by nathan. please see his sticky thread for more info, about his plugin, and how to obtain Girder.
BROKEN HEATSINK MOUNTING CLIPS
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=96148.0
Phew, thats about it. If any other Mega 651 users think I've missed anything out, please feel free to tell me.
For other general hints and tips, look through the "things to know" posts regarding the 865 and 180.
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PROCESSOR SUPPORT:
The official list of supported CPUs can be found here:
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/slim_pc/slm/pro_slm_cpu_support_detail.php?UID=431&kind=4
Basically the ageing SiS651 chipset does not support Celeron / P4 cpus above 533mhz, and does NOT support the newer "Prescott" core cpus
Celeron > 400Mhz FSB
P4 Northwood > 533mhz FSB (512kb L2 cache)
your processor is not supported. please start a new thread if you need help

Mega 651 TV-Out card problem

Hi freakz,
i have a Mega 651 with the original MSI TV-OUT card, but I don´t get any picture onto my TV.
I´ve already reinstalled the diasplay drivers. In windows I can´t find any configuration for the TV-out.
In the bios I´ve tested all settings.
My TV is switched on, so the card should recognize it.
Does anybody have the same card working? When does the picture appear on the TV screen? at the bios booting or at the Windows screen?
Which resolutions should I choose? I´ve tried 800x600 and 1024&768. Nothing.
Perhaps the card is broken, but first I will try everything so I can get shure.
Please... Can anybody help me with my problem or give me tips?
Thanx
Alex

Hi,
first of all, be sure I have tried everything, other cables (even shorter ones), ....
It´s the add on card for the Mega 651 which has a composite and a S-video plug.
I work with the chinch composite output.
In the bios I can choose between TV, CRT, or both.
Even if I only connect the TV, nothing appears on it.
Should I see the POST screen on the TV, or first when the display driver has been initialised?
Alex (still no pictures )

Wiggy's Mega 651 Project

This is from another board I hang on (www.redflagdeals.com), decided I might share it here.
I bought one of these units and have been lurking on this thread (which has been quite informative and helpful) and now it's time to chime in with my bit.
Here's my basic config:
Mega 651, BIOS v1.1, MegaRadio v1.00.61
Celeron 2.7G
640MB RAM (1x512, 1x128)
NVIDIA GForce4 MX 4000 128MB w/tv out, passively cooled (fanless)
Maxtor 6E040L0 40G
MSI 8332 CD-ROM 32x12x40
external USB floppy
external USB wieless B adapter Microsoft MN-510
On the bench i'm using a standard MS keyboard, Synaptics glidepad and a 15" IBM monitor
Set up in the living room I'll be using a wireless RF BTC keyboard/thumb mouse and a 32" TV
The initial set up went fine. The machine booted without trouble and recognized all the bits of a basic, stripped down hardware config.
The only issues coming out of the gate were cooling the system and managing the tight, tight space.
MSI's PC Alert 4 isn't worth a damn, so I'm using Speedfan. Even just idling with the unit cover off I'm getting 42°C on the CPU and 56°C (and the little flame icon) on the hard drive.
I decided to focus on cooling the hard drive first because it's essentially turned the Mega into an Easy Bake Oven. I've attached one of those dual fan aluminum frame hard drive coolers to the bottom of the drive. To make space for what is now pretty much a double height hard drive I've removed the hard drive and floppy drive mounting brackets from under the CD-ROM mounting slot. That frees up a huge amount of room for the drive, cables and air circulation. You can even almost get your hands in there to work! I'm staying with the card reader so installing a floppy in that space is not an issue. I'll also stick with a single drive and just upgrade to a larger one if necessary.
To mount the hard drive I picked up a piece of 1/2" aluminium angle at the local Home Depot and cut two pieces to match the length of the drive. I marked and drilled these brackets to match the screw holes on the drive. This is pretty simple work that only requires a hacksaw, a drill and bit and a file to clean up the cut ends of the brackets. The brackets are mounted flush to the top of the drive. This lets the drive hang down from the CD-ROM mount rails without any other screws or hardware required. Because the brackets are made of thin-gauge aluminum there's still plenty of room to easily install the CD-ROM.
The difference from the installation of the hard drive cooling is dramatic. The CPU now idles at 36-37°C and the hard drive at about 35°C . Speedfan manages the fans with minimums set at 50/50/20. The drive cooler is dead silent.
The next step is to install a supplementary fan to exhaust the hot air from the drive fom the case. Using some heavy duty velcro I've attached a 50mm CPU cooling fan with a molex connector onto the right hand side of the blue bracket that holds the Mega's stock CPU cooling fan. This lines up neatly with the exhaust grill on the case. You need a power pigtail to extend the reach of the Mega's power connector. I tried a bunch of different fans looking for the one that runs the quietest. The difference from fan to fan cooling wise wasn't significant, so whispering counts the most here for me.
Once that's done the system temps drop again. The CPU idles at 33-34°C and the hard drive at anywhere from 27-31°C. Aside from the simple mods I've described here all the rest of the system cooling is stock. Note that I've not mentioned system board temps, but then they've generally stayed with one or two degrees of the CPU temp. I can hear the cooling fan for the first time, but it's not out of line. A higher end fan might run more quietly. I just picked from what I had to hand.
I want to add a fan to the video card, but that'll have to wait until I find something that fits properly and has a nice low profile so that it doesn't obstruct the PCI slot. I've got a couple fans that fit the bill except for the fact that heatsink butts up against one of the components of the video card which would be a no-no. So I either find a different fan or grind down a wee bit of one of those I have in hand.
All the PCI slot fans I've looked at are too wide to fit in comfortably and they end up costing you your PCI slot in any case, so I wouldn't consider them an option.
I may end up grabbing one of those laptop cooling pads with the multiple fans to sit the unit on, but I want to give the existing config a workout first.
These were pretty simple mods. They were easy to do with basic tools and materials and didn't cost much. They didn't involve cutting my case to bits or mounting extrusions on it so it still looks sleek and clean. The drive fan runs about $15 Cdn, $5 for the aluminum angle, $5 for the CPU cooler fan, $3 for the power pigtail cable, $5 for velcro. Cheaper if you've got some of these parts lying around.
That's a long enough post for now. I'll talk about some of the other bits in another post.

Okay. Got some pics that tie into my previous post.
Here's the Mega. I'm using an external USB floppy and USB wireless B adapter. Not much space inside the case, but this thing's got USB ports coming out of it's ying yang, so why not? That's the Compag SFF I'm retiring that the Mega is sitting on.
This pic shows the hard drive with a cooling fan installed. Fifteen bucks at CWO and the colour even matches the trim on the Mega's case! Too bad you can't see it once it's installed. Note the homemade mounting rails installed on both sides of the drive. They're cut from a piece of aluminum angle from Home Depot and have a couple of holes drilled in them to match the screw holes on the hdd.
Next up, here's the drive installed. The aluminum rails sit on top of the frame of the CD-ROM mounting bay. Note there are no screws to hold the hdd in place in the bay. Once you install the CD drive on top it'll hold the works firmly in place. The stock hdd & fdd mounting brackets have been removed from the case. The hdd and fan combo hang in the open space below, but there is still a ton of room down there for cables and air circulation.
Finally, here's a side shot showing the installation of a supplementary exhaust fan on the right hand side of the case. It's mounted using a velcro strip across the top of the fan and on the inside edge of the Mega's stock cpu fan holder. It lines up nicely with the existing grill on the Mega's case and draws hot air from the cpu's heatsink and the hdd and exhausts it. Note that you'll need a molex extension pigtail to be able to reach the Mega's power connector.
In this image you can also see the hdd and attached cooler fan in place. It doesn't show real clear here, but everything between the bottom of the orange hdd fan and the top of the RAM sticks is open space.
That's my work to date. Straight forward enough, cheap and makes a big difference to the operating temp of the system.

Mega 651 will not recognize multi card in Win XP Pro

I have been using my Mega 651 since the begining of January 2004 and have been a satisified user with only a few gliches since reciently.
My Configuration
Celeron 2.4 400 Mhz FSB
512 Meg PC 2700
WD 160 GB Hard Drive
IO Magic DVD +-RW/+-R DVD drive
and most reciently (about 1 month ago)
ATI 9200 Video Card
Dual Boot with Windows 2000 Pro and Mandrake 10.0 (95% W2k)
Until just last week I had very few gliches except for an anoying problem where the CD drive would stop working. The symptoms were the drive would not eject automatically and on reboot, the post would not discover the IDE devices. I found that if I removed the cover and reset the data cable, then the system would get back to normal.
But this is not why I am writing here.
Last week the system got into a very strange startup loop. It would boot into windows Pro and during the startup, would reboot, and then restart. I tried to boot into safe mode and did not have the problem so I determined that the problem was software and tried to do a repair from the installation CD. That did not work so I decided to do an upgrade to Win XP Pro. When installing Win XP I discovered a new and unusual problem. That was that the system would pause for about 60 sec when booting after finding the mother board and before reporting on the IDE devices. It still pauses like this. I also found that the reboot on startup problem continued so I decided to install Win XP Pro clean, on the hard drive, in its own windows directory. The new install went very well and I am in general pleased with win XP. But I do have two new problems now.
1. Windows insists on identifying the multi card device as a floppy, I tried to remove the device drivers and install a removable HD driver but XP rejects the removable devices and insists on reinstalling the floppy driver. So I can not access my CF or SD cards.
2. I still have a long pause before the post reports the IDE devices, the hard drive and the DVD drive. Both devices seem to function OK when up and running
Any comments on either problem.
Thanks,
Charlie Girdosky
My first try at upgrading to WinXP Pro

I don't have the 651, but the 865. The 865 came with a Mega disc and required installing the Intel drivers from the disc. Since the 865 is driven primarly by USB, windows would attempt to assign a driver to motherboard and devices, but would inevitably be wrong. Only by installing the Intel drivers were things found properly.
Is there any chance there are such drivers with the 651 as well?

Problems with NEW MEGA 651 PC

Put the MEGA 651 together today. The heat sink /cooler was a pain in the butt to get installed but finally got it. Also purchased the MSI DVD/CDRW Drive since a disclaimer on the box said other brands may not work... ok.
Installed it all and guess what. Yep the MSI CD unit doesnt open the door cause it hits the case! Not only that but the MSI CD Eject button in behind and below the cutout making it almost impossible to even attempt to get the cd tray to eject! Then the damn thing bounces off my finger pushing the eject button and goes back in. If I push the button with a pencil the tray comes out 3/8" and hits the side of the case cause the cutout doesnt line up.... Now thats planning! Not to mention I wonder what happens when it finally comes out and you put a cd in it. It goes back in does it SNAG the spring loaded door and jam or does it scratch the cd in the drive?
It seems to me I need to remove the door and drill a 1/4" hole in the case so I can put something in there to press the eject button.
Also the green light on the card reader and the clock stays displayed after I turn the PC off. Also there is still power to the NUMLOCK light on the keyboard so I ASSUME it is NOT TURNING ALL THE WAY OFF.
I haven't got a chance to install an OS yet since I have to resolve the CD issue before I can even get a CD in the thing.
On a positive not I like the radio at least it works!
Im soooo confused....
:-?

That's strange that it hits the case. I bet you have it mounted wrong. Try moving it forwards/backwards in the case until it ejects correctly. I had mine too close to the door and it wouldn't open... moving it back solved the problem.
Now, I don't own a 651, but if it's like the 865, then you don't push the button that's located on the CD Player, instead you push the eject button on the computer case itself.

Mega 651 AGP Video Card Init Problem

Hello all, I've got a great Mega 651 that I've used off and on for a couple of years for "light" office work. I've been trying to install a Radeon 9600 AGP card with not much success. On the initial install the card had output and I installed the catalyst drivers. Upon reboot the card no longer functions. I then removed the card, and installed agp121 I saw from a different post, reinstalled card and all was well until I shut down and restarted then the card was not working again and only the onboard was. Any thoughts?

I installed the correct Mhz cpu a 2.66 533 and the system is running stable, so I reinstalled the graphics card, and all was well for about 1 hour, then my monitor displayed a "no signal" and the system reverted back to the onboard VGA. Anyone experienced anything like this before? I'm wondering if the graphics card is bad (bought it used). Is there any hardware way to disable the onboard VGA (like jumper or something)? Thanks

Can anyone help? Hibernating Mega 651 (fao Stu Online)

Hi All,
I'm new to this forum as I've only just found it existed!
I have finally built my Mega PC 651 (the orange and silver one).
Huge amounts of stress building it with temperature issues, noise, and OS problems.
I thought it would be easy using all MSI equipment to ensure compatability, but not so. Win XP caused huge problems with the MSI DR16 B DVD writer (not refreshing drive info and no access) so went back to using Win 2k. Also MSI Live updates stopped my MSI nVidia Personal Cinema working (nvarem.exe problem).
Anyway got it all working, apart from the hibernate function.
I have enabled it on Windows 2000 Power Options menu and gone into the bios and change the power button function to 'suspend'.
When I press the power button now windows starts hibernation then everying goes off but the 651 just reboots. Sometimes it does hibernate but mostly it reboots.
Also after awaking from hibernation windows displays a warnig that usb device has been unplugged without stopping, I assume this is to do with the card reader on the Mega.
Anyone know how to sort this?
Many thanks,
Mo
MSI Mega 651
P4 2.8GHz 533 FSB
Akasa Expansion Slot Exhaust Blower
Akasa Pax Mate II in case sound insulation
1Gb Corsair Matched pair DDR RAM
MSI FX5200-VT128 nVidia Personal Cinema
MSI DR16-B DVD writer

My MEGA 651 had the same symptoms :] , I though that it was due to the PSU, so I connected it (with some modifications) to a new 400W PSU. Now the PC switches on sometimes, but when I switch it off it won't switch on again immediately, you need to wait for several minutes. Now I am inclined to think that the problem is with the motherboard, which means that 651 is going to a dump soon :(

MEGA 651 doesn't boot

Hi everyone,
I am using the mega651 for 1.5 years, almost without problems. Yesterday I tried to reboot the box, it shut down properly, but instead of booting, only psu and gpu fan started, the cpu fan did not, and it didn't show any POST Messages. I checked all cables, but they seem to be ok
I built out my graphics card, and it worked, then I again tried with the card, and it worked too. Ok, panic over,
Today I tried to boot the box, and the same problem occured (with and without gpu)
It seems like it's booting when it wants too...
my specs:
mega651
p4"northwood"2.8ghz
sapphire x800se
512Mb infineon DDR400 Ram
LG GSA 4167B DVD+/-RW
Any Idea?
nrn

Hi Stu. Sorry if U feel offended by my message. I've spent a lot of time trying to find the reasons (at least) of this strange behaviour of this barebone. I've looked through russian forums (I'm from Russia) and I see that a lot of people have met the same problem for the last 1.5 years. So, if people in different countries meet the same problem with the same product then the absence of MSI's recommendations shows the level of their "respect". Of course I'd like to get your help if it is possible. My 651 optional devices are:
P4 2.4 MHz, 512 MB, Radeon 7500, 80 GB Barracuda 7200.7, MS-8216S DVD
Everithing was OK for the first 1.5 year, but last winter brought the problem described by many other people: the device comes "freezed" in 1 second after pressing "PC" button on front panel. Fans are working, PC LED lights, display is black, device doesn't respond to any buttons. The only way to make it alive again is to disconnect every wire from it, then "clear CMOS" with corresponding pin and leave barebone unplugged for a couple of days (a few hours don't help ). Idea about capacitors is just a kind of a logical trick: batteries and capacitors use to loose their prferences with time, other elements use to become "not working at all"... I can change capacitors in PSU for new (good) ones, but a lot of people say that changing PSU hasn't helped. So should I try to spend time (and capacitors:) ) for this? (I'm not kidding, it's a real question). In Russian forums some posts say that different Service centers declare the reason of this behaviour as "undefineable motherboard problem" But during the last few months every PSU voltage have lost approx. 15% of nominal value! (f.e. +12V could become +10.3V and so on)! Something definitely keeps on dieing in PSU! Maybe in motherboard too? Anyway I'm writing this message on my Mega 651, but I never know when it stops again :( Last time it was dead for a week!

Wacom tablet on dual display dual card setup...

...and the cards are as follows, one Geforce GTX 460 (nvidia driver), one Radeon x1650 (radeon driver) As such, I have to use Xinerama and not RandR for my dual display setup. I have configured the driver to use my main display (Dell CRT on GTX 460) and the cursor shows up where it's supposed to, but when I draw, the cursor "splits" into two, the actual cursor, and the drawing cursor. The regular cursor moves as if it's on my main display, but the drawing cursor spans both desktops.
I've tried all kinds of things to make it work, no luck though.
xsetwacom set "Wacom Graphire4 6x8 stylus" Area 0 0 30408 12064
xsetwacom get "Wacom Graphire4 6x8 stylus" MapToOutput HEAD-0
Both of those commands produce the same result, which is shown in the video below.
xorg.conf
http://pastebin.com/d0TSwNrR
And a lovely video showing what I mean.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMGGehD81jM
Any help would be lovely.

MisterAnderson wrote:Honestly no clue how to help you, but I am interested in your setup. Are you using the proprietary drivers for your nvidia card and the opensource radeon for your ati? How did you get this setup working? I've been trying for ages!
If I remember correctly, I just used --nodeps and maybe --force when installing the nvidia driver, that way it didn't force me to uninstall the radeon driver when I install the nvidia driver. Then, look at my xorg.conf. there's no acceleration of any sort on the ati card, but I can use it for terminals and browser windows, text editors and the like. Can't watch flash videos on it though, and I don't think mplayer works on it either, I'm not at my arch box atm, so I can't verify that.
Also, as mentioned in my opening post, no composting either. The same setup works pretty good in Ubuntu with a similar config, but no compositing there either, Unity clones 1680x1050 of my main 2048x1536 display, can't split the desktops, and I just end up using Xfce4 because it handles Xinerma pretty well.. I have to turn off the compositing extension in the config on arch to get X to even start up.
:edit:
back in arch, should note that whenever I install a new package, I receive this warning. Everything still works tghough as I describes. And back on topic, anyone have any clue as to why my tablet behaves this way?
missing dependency for ati-dri : libgl=8.0.4
Last edited by RexMcLess (2012-10-02 19:58:03)

Highest dual display resolution for mac mini mid 2011

I am currently running a mac mini mid 2011. As I've understood (according to the below statement). Am I only able to use 2 secreen with 1920x1200 or could I use one screen with 2560x1600 and one with 1920x1200. I do NOT want mirroring, only dual displays.
I am going to connect the screens in the following way:
1x mini-dvi - HDMI to one screen.
1x HDMI - HDMI to the other screen.
Display Support:
Dual Displays
Resolution Support:
1920x1200*
Details:
*This model simultaneously supports 1920x1200 on an HDMI display or a DVI display using the included HDMI-to-DVI adapterand 2560x1600 on a Thunderbolt or Mini DisplayPort display or even a VGA display (with an optional Mini DisplayPort-to-VGA adapter, which is compatible with the Thunderbolt port).
2nd Display Support:
Dual/Mirroring*
2nd Max. Resolution:
2560x1600*
Details:
*This model simultaneously supports 1920x1200 on an HDMI or a DVI display (using the included HDMI-to-DVI adapter) and2560x1600 on a Thunderbolt or Mini DisplayPort display or even a VGA display (with an optional Mini DisplayPort-to-VGA adapter, which is compatible with the Thunderbolt port).
Thanks in advance
Rich

According to the copy&paste from wikipedia, HDMI should support higher resolution than 1920x1200. So the question is, does it aupport that on the mid 2011 mac mini. It says in the specifications
"Mac mini is designed to work with HDMI devices that comply with versions 1.0, 1.1, 1.2, 1.2a, 1.3, 1.3a, and 1.4 of the HDMI specification."
That should mean it should be able to support it, but I don't know : <
HDMI version
1.0
1.1
1.2
1.3
1.4
2.0
Date initially released
December 9, 2002
May 20, 2004
August 8, 2005
June 22, 2006
May 28, 2009
September 12, 2013
Maximum clock rate (MHz)
165
165
165
340
340[109]
600
Maximum TMDS throughput per channel (Gbit/s) including 8b/10b overhead
1.65
1.65
1.65
3.40
3.40
6
Maximum total TMDS throughput (Gbit/s) including 8b/10b overhead
4.95
4.95
4.95
10.2
10.2
18
Maximum throughput (Gbit/s) with 8b/10b overhead removed
3.96
3.96
3.96
8.16
8.16
14.4
Maximum audio throughput (Mbit/s)
36.86
36.86
36.86
36.86
36.86
Maximum color depth (bit/px)
24
24
24
48[a]
48
Maximum resolution over single link at 24-bit/px[b]
1920×1200p60
1920×1200p60
1920×1200p60
2560×1600p75
4096×2160p24
4096×2160p60
Maximum resolution over single link at 30-bit/px[c]
N/A
N/A
N/A
2560×1600p60
4096×2160p24
Maximum resolution over single link at 36-bit/px[d]
N/A
N/A
N/A
1920×1200p75
4096×2160p24
Maximum resolution over single link at 48-bit/px[e]
N/A
N/A
N/A
1920×1200p60
1920×1200p60
Maximum 3D resolution (using a full resolution 3D format) over single link at 24-bit/px
N/A
N/A
N/A
N/A
1920×1200p60

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How do I use dual displays to have a full screen app on one monitor and another full screen app or the desktop on the other?
I want to have my itunes visualizer on my TV which is connected via HDMI adapter, and still have access to full screen itunes and my desktop on the main display.
Any suggestions? App downloads that can do this? Please let me know.

You can't do it. This has been an issue since Lion.

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I have posted this on painter forums, though some of the issues coming together here are directly related to issues w/ Snow Leopard and dual displays. Thought I would try here....
This is so bizarre. When I ever I run P11(I think this is going on in P10 too?) w/ the OS X (snow leopard, 10.6.2 on quad core Intel Xeon Mac Pro, 10 GB of RAM) menu bar on my Eizo(making it the main display), and the Apple Cinema display left as the #2 monitor, I get very annoying brush cursor artifcats left randomly on the Eizo screen after strokes. One cannot predict when the cursor will leave it's gray "marks", but it will do it, sometimes 5 strokes in a row, sometimes after 15 strokes or so? If I move my brush back over them, or change the image percantage view, they vanish, obviously new ones coming back, as I work.
However I put the OS menu bar on the AC display, yet work back on the Eizo, this does NOT happen. No cursor artifacts. Well, at least I can summon the issue
The reason I am doing this is Snow Leopard has bad color issues w/ dual displays (well documented, much to Photoshop CS4 users frustrations, and mine). Apple needs to fix it... but for me to see the right color on the Eizo(this is my main color and superior display), it needs to be the main monitor(menu bar) in 10.6.2.
So, you can see my trap - Accurate color, or annoying cursor artifacts left on the screen (sorry, it really bugs me as I work) as I work in Painter.
Attempted fixes: Trashed all of Painter's prefs, all of Wacom's Intuos 4(latest driver) prefs and software, switched plug ins on the back of the mac for the displays(lots of restarts), ran cache cleaning Cocktail and DiskWarrior, etc. -- no change, as I can duplicate the issue w/ the above set up. A sidebar or maybe be very related note: I have an iMac w/ max amount of ram (model not very old -- maybe 1 or 2 old) and I have had a long standing issue working on the iMacs we have had w/ this brush cursor artifact problem (in Leopard and Snow Leopard). I am on one monitor w/ the iMac, so you know here the menu bar is...hmmmmmmmm.....?
Thanks!, T

I have posted this on painter forums, though some of the issues coming together here are directly related to issues w/ Snow Leopard and dual displays. Thought I would try here....
This is so bizarre. When I ever I run P11(I think this is going on in P10 too?) w/ the OS X (snow leopard, 10.6.2 on quad core Intel Xeon Mac Pro, 10 GB of RAM) menu bar on my Eizo(making it the main display), and the Apple Cinema display left as the #2 monitor, I get very annoying brush cursor artifcats left randomly on the Eizo screen after strokes. One cannot predict when the cursor will leave it's gray "marks", but it will do it, sometimes 5 strokes in a row, sometimes after 15 strokes or so? If I move my brush back over them, or change the image percantage view, they vanish, obviously new ones coming back, as I work.
However I put the OS menu bar on the AC display, yet work back on the Eizo, this does NOT happen. No cursor artifacts. Well, at least I can summon the issue
The reason I am doing this is Snow Leopard has bad color issues w/ dual displays (well documented, much to Photoshop CS4 users frustrations, and mine). Apple needs to fix it... but for me to see the right color on the Eizo(this is my main color and superior display), it needs to be the main monitor(menu bar) in 10.6.2.
So, you can see my trap - Accurate color, or annoying cursor artifacts left on the screen (sorry, it really bugs me as I work) as I work in Painter.
Attempted fixes: Trashed all of Painter's prefs, all of Wacom's Intuos 4(latest driver) prefs and software, switched plug ins on the back of the mac for the displays(lots of restarts), ran cache cleaning Cocktail and DiskWarrior, etc. -- no change, as I can duplicate the issue w/ the above set up. A sidebar or maybe be very related note: I have an iMac w/ max amount of ram (model not very old -- maybe 1 or 2 old) and I have had a long standing issue working on the iMacs we have had w/ this brush cursor artifact problem (in Leopard and Snow Leopard). I am on one monitor w/ the iMac, so you know here the menu bar is...hmmmmmmmm.....?
Thanks!, T

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I have an early 2008 Mac mini (Intel) - with the standard DVI connector; using the supplied DVI/VGA adapter to connect to an LCD monitor.
I'm just wondering if it is possible to use two displays with this model and if so, how do I connect the second monitor?

Several ways of doing it in this thread:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=8335705&#8335705
If you want to go the usb route, see also:
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other%20World%20Computing/VIDU2DVIA/
Be sure to examine the limitations of each method.
(I'd also consider that your 2008 Mini likely has substantial resale value and that you might prefer getting a 2009 Mini which natively supports dual displays.)

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Hi David it should...
Display Support:
Dual Displays
Resolution Support:
1920x1200*
Details:
*This model simultaneously supports 1920x1200 on an HDMI display or a DVI display using the included HDMI-to-DVI adapter and 2560x1600 on a Thunderbolt or Mini DisplayPort display or even a VGA display (with an optional Mini DisplayPort-to-VGA adapter, which is compatible with the Thunderbolt port).
2nd Display Support:
Dual/Mirroring*
2nd Max. Resolution:
2560x1600*
Details:
*This model simultaneously supports 1920x1200 on an HDMI or a DVI display (using the included HDMI-to-DVI adapter) and 2560x1600 on a Thunderbolt or Mini DisplayPort display or even a VGA display (with an optional Mini DisplayPort-to-VGA adapter, which is compatible with the Thunderbolt port).
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