Mega 865 Boots Itself!

I have a Mega 865 and i was having some problems with WindowsXP and decided to go to the bios and Load the Setup Defaults. I boot the pc again, no problem.
Then i shutdown the pc...after 3 seconds it boots itself up!
I made and upgrad to the bios but the problem continues.
I can't shutdown the 865 because it starts up on it's own!
Anyone has this problem?

Not that problem but are you sure the power button is releasing. To test this you could unplug your machine from the wall and pull the front panel connector off, if it doesn't boot up then plug the connector in and see.

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When I boot now, I don't get anything on the screen and I get a series of beeps.
First of all I get a long beep followed by two short beeps in sucession.
Then there is a break of about ten seconds and there are two beeps back to back in a much lower tone.
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I recently put together an MSI Mega 865 barebone system with the following specifications:
Processor: Intel 3.2c Ghz (Northwood core)
Hard Drive: Western Digital SATA 10kRPM Raptor
Memory: 1 GB (2 x 512MB) Kingston 3200 (400Mhz)
DVD Player: Plextor 8X DVD RW
Video Card: HIS Excalibure 9800Pro 128 MB
OS: WinXP
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My question is the following:
Would the SATA be available all of the time, or only if a SATA enabled harddrive was recognized?
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The system worked for 4 days or so. One day, I started it up, and it couldn't boot because it couldn't detect the SATA drive. When this happened I decided to flash it to the the latest BIOS, but even this did not help.
The unit had problems before, it would lock up on initial power up, the HIFI/CD/DVD would not respond (when the computer was not on of course). I would have to plug and unplug the unit 3 or 4 times before it would power on and not lock up.
I contacted MSI support, and explained my problems. They told me to return the unit to the reseller. I'm not sure if the problem was the unit, the hard drive, or both, so I went ahead and returned the HD and the MSI unit. It'll be another 2 weeks or so now before I get my computer up and running. :(

Things to know before (and after) building a Mega 865

As I am seeing a lot of the same questions regarding the Mega 865 I created this document,
29-Oct-2004 Added Northwood benefits
29-Oct-2004 Emphasized NOT to use live update for bios update
Processors in general
Start with the processor, I would say get something around 3 gighz (give or take) which is quite affordeble. If you are going for a prescott, make sure you upgrade your bios to 1.3 (see below).It will run a bit hot (understatement) otherwise.
If going for northwood any version is ok I believe. When I chose mine I let $$$ descide, and the prescott was on sale. (If I would buy a CPU for the Mega again, I would most likely go for a Northwood this time). Before buying your processor make sure your processor is supported, you can find the supported processors here;
http://cweb.msi.com.tw/program/products/slim_pc/slm/pro_slm_cpu_support_detail.php?UID=547&kind=4
Harddisk
As for Harddisk, I would suggest anything goes but take a serial ata since that is becoming the new standard nowadays.
When buying a HD larger than 130 Gig, make sure you install from a Windows XP SP1 CD (or higher) or divide your HD in smaller pieces. Otherwise you will not get a bigger partition than 130 Gigs.
DVD/CDROM
As for DVD/CD player, there is a special thread (see below) where everyone states if their DVD/CD player is working with the mega (there are some issues with some drives in HiFi mode, EVEN if they are MSI)
Mega PC barebones optical drive compatibility list
Memory
As for memory, get at least 512 Mb or 1024 Mb if you want to sit cosy. two sticks of DDR400 (a.k.a 3200) will do. Get a a-brand like Kingston, Samsung or look around on the forums what will work.
Installing Windows XP
Before installing Windows disable your USB devices, if you fail to do this you run the chance of not installing Windows XP on your C: drive (harddisk) and this will cause you trouble later on. After installation is complete you may enable them again.
Prescott processors & full size AGP cards
As for the GPU (Graphics card), this depends on what you are going to do with it. If you wanna try out at showshifting, and viewing get one with integrated TV tuner. Or use the on-board (some people are quite happy with it) and add a separate PCI tv tuner. If you wanna do hefty gaming (Doom3, Far Cry ... etc) you may want to get an better one. I'm quite happy with my Radeon 9800.
Please note; According to MSI, Prescott processors in combination with full-size AGP (add-in) cards are not supported. This is most likely a power issue since the full-size cards use a lot of power to run. Some forum members, stuborn as they are, are running with a full-size card.
Also note that you are installing a full-size card on your own risk in combination with a Prescott processor.
To calculate your estimated power supply take a look here;
http://www.jscustompcs.com/power_supply/
The following graphics cards seem to be working (please add to this thread if you have tested a full-size card with a Prescott processor so I can add it to this document)
Club3D Radeon AIW 9800 PRO
ATI Radeon ALL-IN-WONDER 9600 XT
ATI Radeon 9800 SE
AOPEN Aeolus 5900XT 128 Mb
Wise words from Stu:
If you do not want to take chances, go with a Northwood processor. Apperantly there is little perfomance difference between a Northwood and a Prescott processor, and the Northwood runs slightly cooler too.
Windows XP Service Pack 2 & Bios Update
When installing Windows XP with SP2 make sure you have the latest Bios version loaded (1.3) or install a Microsoft work-around fix. SP2 will not install without it, and you will have a hard time getting your system to work.
The Microsoft work-around fix can be found here;
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;885626
The latest bios version can be downloaded here;
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/bios/bos/spt_bos_detail.php?UID=547&kind=4
To install the latest bios, I would advise against using live-update. Use one of the following options instead;
1) Burn a bootable CD-Rom also containing the bios and flash software, (note some of the original Win98 CD's are bootable to MS-DOS prompt)
2) Create a bootable USB-memory key
--- Download the HP util to create one
--- http://h18007.www1.hp.com/support/files/hpcpqdt/us/download/20306.html
--- Then create a bootable floppy on an other system or download from
--- http://www.allbootdisks.com/
--- (I used the Win98SE No ramdrive )
--- Then use the HP tool (on an system with an floppy drive) and enter a: as the source for booting,
--- and use the above created floppy.
--- Then copy the rest of the files from the a:\ drive (like autoexec.bat, config.sys etc) to the memory key.
--- ... and ... voila one bootable USB
--- make sure in the bios that the boot order of the USB key is before the Harddisk and your set to go.
3) Attach a floppy drive to the Mega 865
Bios update failure
Some people still manage to goof-up their bios, by doing the bios update from windows (winflash, live-update). I think there is only one road to travel when this happens, you have to attach a floppy drive to your mega. Then follow the following instructions (Award bios)
http://www.msi.com.tw/html/support/bios/note/boot.htm
Good luck !
PC-Alert
Do not use the PC-Alert version from the MSI website as this does not work together with your Mega 865, instead only use the one on the CD-Rom that was supplied. In general even the supplied PC-Alert has caused a lot of grief (Taking up resources, reboot problems ... etc). If you choose to install PC-Alert, at least remove it from your start-up folder where it is installed. You can always start it manually from the MSI menu in your Start menu.
A good alternative to Pc-Alert is Speedfan, this program should be able to spot your 2 temeperature sensored CPU fans. You can then connect these fans to the CPU temperature sensor and be able to tweak the RPM's according to your need. Speedfan 4.17 can be found here;
http://www.almico.com/speedfan417.exe
Temperatures
As these tiny PC's have very little space, it is quite normal for them to run a bit hot. Do not be alarmed to see CPU temperatures around 60-65 degrees when running on load (depending on your processor of course).
Wireless Network adapter
As for wireless internet, the mega865 has a built-in mini-pci nic (network card). which supports only the 11 Mbps data rate. I think you have to try it out and see how it goes, you can always upgrade to 54 Mbps. I would suggest to get a 54Mbps access point, so you can always upgrade if needed (54Mbps will also work with 11 Mbps) Some forum members have succesfully replaced their Wireless Network adapters with a 54Mbps one. The following network adapters seem to be working;(please add to this thread if you have tested a wireless 54Mbps network adapter so I will add it to this document)
Intel PRO/Wireless BG Network Adapter
6 Channel sound
I recently bought a 5.1 set from Soundblaster. You can connect the 3 connectors to the back of your Mega, then in the Sound util set it up for 5.1 surround sound and you are ready to go. Definately worth it !
Reboot problems
When you run into problems when the Mega reboots suddenly, watch out for a couple of things.
Always check your event/log viewer. It is in your configuration management, but the easiest way to start it is to enter the following in your Run or Command line entry
eventvwr /s
Check if you see red-dots in your application section or system section. Google the problems before dropping them on the forum ! (As most problems are not Mega related IMHO)
One problem I had was caused by BITS 1.5, I had to upgrade to BITS 2.0. (I think it was recently released by Microsoft-Update but I mention it anyway). Bits 1.5 caused my Mega to reboot.
LCD Display / Sound problems
If you have any problems where your front LCD display is not working or your on-board sound is 'missing' first try unplugging your mega from the power outlet (so completely powering down) for 2 minutes. If you still have problems, drop them on this forum.
LCD API ?
Alas, no external programs are available to 'drive' your LCD display. Nor will MSI release an API/Blue print on how to control it.
If you find anything missing here or have additional tips, please add them to this thread and I will update this document.
Good luck with your Mega !
Raymond

rkoppen i salute you
a truly glorious summing up of the main points asked about the Mega 865 in particular, although many points will invariably refer also to the other Mega series
if i can add my tuppence worth, anyone considering going for a powerful graphics card can always shy away from the prescott
i was reading an article just when the prescott core cpus came out and the review basically said that there wasn't really much performance wise between the new prescott and the older Northwood cores.
obviously newer prescotts have higher clock speeds now (3.2? 3.4??), but surely a 2.8ghz CPU is still going to be powerful enough to play the latest games!! (in conjunction with a top graphics card obviously)
is the extra temp increase surely worth the extra couple of hundred mhz?

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Windows XP has installed itself to the E: or F: drive because the card reader has taken C: and D: and in this case Intervideo software won't install correctly
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Mega 865 and Girder version 4

Hello,
I am trying to utilize the remote control of my Mega 865. I have installed Nathan plugins and Girder 4. However, still I cant use my RC. Shall I use girder 3.2? How can I get ie?
Regards
Hussein

yeah, I did drop him an email and he said he was too busy.... the source is avaliable, but I ran into problems attempting to compile.
I didnt realise there was different versions of Mega 865.
I've actually got a feeling the problem might be with a C++ dll version. when I look in system manager control folder, it has the MSIDrvIF.dll & ForMpc.dll file as well as a C++ dll. (cant remeber the name and Im at work so will have to wait till im home.)
the C++ dll in windows System32 folder is different from the one in the SMC folder. I tried to replace the C++ dll with the once from the SMC folder, but it is in use by windows.
I will have to try and boot into command promot and overwrite it sometime. will keep people posted.

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Anyone got Nathan's Girder Plugin to work with the Mega 865?
Nathans plugin crashes girder and even his msiKeys program. they just do 99% all the time.
I suspect it might be a dll version problem, maybe even a c++ runtime library.
if you have girder working with mega 865 please post and let me know what versions of MSIDrvIF.dll & ForMpc.dll you have

yeah, I did drop him an email and he said he was too busy.... the source is avaliable, but I ran into problems attempting to compile.
I didnt realise there was different versions of Mega 865.
I've actually got a feeling the problem might be with a C++ dll version. when I look in system manager control folder, it has the MSIDrvIF.dll & ForMpc.dll file as well as a C++ dll. (cant remeber the name and Im at work so will have to wait till im home.)
the C++ dll in windows System32 folder is different from the one in the SMC folder. I tried to replace the C++ dll with the once from the SMC folder, but it is in use by windows.
I will have to try and boot into command promot and overwrite it sometime. will keep people posted.

Help! Mega 865 problems

Hi, maybe someone here can help me with a problem that's developed on my Mega 865 with P4 3.0Ghz (Northwood).
Everything was working fine up until a couple days ago.
I had WinXP pro installed and it was okay except for a minor (but weird) problem. I would try to shut off the computer but it would never completely shutdown. It would shut down then immeduately restart. It wasn't a problem since the computer was on most of the time anyway.
The bigger problem comes after installing the utilities on the Mega 865 drivers disk (Mega theater, pc-alert, etc). The entire computer started to slow down, so I restarted the computer and it powers up again, but all I get is one long beep. Nothing else. Nothing on screen, just a beep that goes on until I hold the power button to shut it off again.
Any ideas? TIA

Thanks for the advice. I agree with you, everything seemed to be working fine until I decided to install the PC-Alert and MSI theater from the install disk (DUMB IDEA!!!!!). My problem now though is that I can't even get my computer to boot to uninstall the programs or ever reformat and reinstall Windows :(
Anyway ideas? Is there a jumber for resetting the bios? I'm trying to get a new P4 chip or another motherboard to see if the Mega 865 + PC-Alert combination fried my chip, after that I can only think of getting an RMA as a solution.
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MSI MEGA 865 not support Prescott 3.2 & higher

i have 3.2e Prescott but has vcore problem mega 865
and then see link
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/slim_pc/slm/pro_slm_cpu_support_detail.php?UID=547&kind=4
mega 865 not support 3.2e Prescott
maybe power supply & cooling problem

Have you checked your XP Eventlog, I had a problem like this also and it turned out BITS (Background Intelligent Transfer Service) gave the problem. (and booted my PC)
I had to upgrade to BITS 2.0 and now I'm running like a charm.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=b93356b1-ba43-480f-983d-eb19368f9047&displaylang=en
Also, before I assembled my PC I had a look at
http://www.jscustompcs.com/power_supply/ to calculate the wattage needed.
I'm assuming the configuration in your .sig and I'm getting to 265 watts for your configuration with 3.2 prescott . (Hardly any difference with mine)
Ray

MSI Mega 865 PRO???

Lookie lookie, the next Mega has been unveiled:
http://msices2005.vtion.com/
They're revamping the faceplate, moving the knob and buttons to the right side. Also, it includes a 7-in-1 reader, with new support for MMC cards. It looks like they're finally including a wireless-G card. Most intesting is the claim of "Home Theatre Without Windows". They use different wording on the site than for the Hi-Fi mode of the 180's and normal 865's, which implies that this machine would be able to play movies without booting Windows.
Judging from MSI Athletic Support, they'll probably shaft us with specs to its display and remote too.

i own a MSI Mega 865..and im happy with it..but i never turn the thing off...
so the Radio/CD/MP3 player...and if i waited and got the 865pro...even the DVD player on the would be of absolutely no use to me!
if this wants to be a real all-in-one HTPC...i would really need a few things :
firstly ...DVB card with BDA support.....
secondly ....the on-board graphics must be fully DX9 compliant..including the freaking drivers...and be more than 16MB onboard-VRAM...i would like DirectxVideoAccelleration, VMR9 and HardWareMotionCompenstation support ..which i belive are currently only on the radeon and nVidia FX and later cards
next we need more than just VGA and s-video....we also need DVI-in/out...and while your at it MSI..give us component too
i belive the SPDIF 5.1 in and out are an absolute must and it should stay...the more channels the better
as it stands i had to fork out a whole lot more money to get this the way i wanted it...this MSI *WAS* really a barebones HTPC....but since i finished building it im very happy with it

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What im doing wrong?

I'm having the same problem with my Mega 865 pro and my Maxtor 6l200mo (200gb).
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Any help will be much appreciated. Cheers!
P.s My hd Tach results were pretty much the same as centarlrocks

Win XP installation failure on MEGA 865 PRO

I'm fighting with my MEGA 865pro, Celeron D 341,2x256 RAM, HDD Maxtor 200GB SATA , DVD-RW LG.
Everything went ok up to the XP installation, i.e. I installed instant-On on an empty disk (it runs and works). Then I boot a Win XP install CD, and it hangs a second after displaying the initial message: "..detecting hardware....". The HDD access led stays on. The same for XP SP1 and SP2. Any BIOS tweaking does not help.
After XX tries, I found out the SATA HDD is the bad guy, as the XP setup goes ok if I use my old ATA disk, or even if I use both the SATA and the ATA disks.
Interestingly, Win 2000 installs *without any problems* (but then InstantOn does not boot)!!! Gentoo and Ubuntu linux work as well.
I'm trying to install the absolutely standard and ("only") recommended configuration, so what ... :(
I've seen few posts about this here and there (e.g. https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=85690.msg616103#msg616103), but no solutions so far :((((
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viz

Dunno if you allready did, but you need to have the latest BIOS to run Win XP SP2 on the MEGA 865 Pro. When i bought mine, Sp2 wasn't out yet and things worked fine. When i tried installing SP2, everything went fine, untill i boot. Black screen and nothing, after a while MSI released a new BIOS fixing the problem, newest BIOS i think is 1.30
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