MEGA PC 651 and 1 gig of RAM
Hi Guys, I have a MEGA 651, cele 2.6 gig and i HAD 1 gig of ram in there... but after doing my usual tasks in XP, it would just reboot! as anyone had this problem? i take out 1 stick of 512 and it runs fine. I think this may be an over heating problem because i noticed that extra stick of 512 generates quite a bit of heat. Could it be a problem with the mobo handling 512 or ram as well? If anyone has any info this would be great
Thanks
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Originally posted by Danny
Could be bad ram: Memtest86
Could be power supply can't handle the extra load.
Thanks alot for your response..
Hmm i know its not the ram, its been tested in another system and its fine.. So it might be the power supply huh? how can this be resolved? i heard the mega PC 651 was released in 2 models.. 1 with a higher voltage power supply, i guess mine is the lower of the 2 released, if so..do i have to replace the power supply?
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