MEGA PC 651 and installing win9x

I have MEGA PC 651 / 2.0 Cel / 80 Gb WD 7.2k / 256 Mb Ram/ DVD-COMBO Liteon
With Win Xp Prof Sp1a work fine, But I have must install win9x (same game's don't work with winXp) - dual boot with pqboot (from pqmagic) .
In 1-stage of Install win9x (98 or Me - coping files ) its work fine , but ... after 1-st reboot setup process it' hanging - :-( , win98 - with kernel error , winme with error of exception ... . Whats going on ? (i'm unplug card reader, disable usb and other not compatibile with win9x devices but it's not help me)
Have you help me ? Any suggestions ?

It's was be a problem with my hdd :-( . I'm install winme on to the new hdd and all looks ok.
I mast reformat my old disk (after backup datas ) and restore it backwards. Or ... replace old :-(

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MEGA PC 651 and 1 gig of RAM

Hi Guys, I have a MEGA 651, cele 2.6 gig and i HAD 1 gig of ram in there... but after doing my usual tasks in XP, it would just reboot! as anyone had this problem? i take out 1 stick of 512 and it runs fine. I think this may be an over heating problem because i noticed that extra stick of 512 generates quite a bit of heat. Could it be a problem with the mobo handling 512 or ram as well? If anyone has any info this would be great
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Originally posted by Danny
Could be bad ram: Memtest86
Could be power supply can't handle the extra load.
Thanks alot for your response..
Hmm i know its not the ram, its been tested in another system and its fine.. So it might be the power supply huh? how can this be resolved? i heard the mega PC 651 was released in 2 models.. 1 with a higher voltage power supply, i guess mine is the lower of the 2 released, if so..do i have to replace the power supply?

[Cannot be resolved] Mega Pc 651 and sblive 5.1

Good Morning
I have a problem of compatibility between sound card SBLIVE 5.1 and Mega Pc 651 :
when I use "MEGARADIO", the sound doesn't work
Same problem when the pc is turned off, no sound even if i play a mp3's cd...
i've apply the patch given on http://www.msi-computer.fr/index.php?id=18&type_dl=6 (PATCH SoundBlaster Live) => no effect
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go into the windows volume control properties, and check there are volume controls for Radio and TV Tuner, and they are unmuted when the relevant app is running
Play control when i lauch Mega Radio :
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i'm afraid though that in hifi mode you'll need to connect your speakers to the on-board sound, the hifi mode won't work with other soundcards
So, if i want to updrade to 7.1, it will never work under hifi mode
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why use the sblive 5.1 anyway? its quite an old card, and the on-board realtek audio is pretty good, and supports 5.1 sound anyway!
if the answer is because you need the gameport, then I suggest you upgrade your game controller to a modern USB type!
I cannot invest for the moment
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Mega Pc 651 and intermittent sound

The sound on my daughter Mega PC 651 rarely works - the "media display" is either empty or has random rubbish on it. I've tried re-insatlling drivers but that makes no difference. The suddenly for a day or two the sound works (Display is blank), now it is abck to not working again.
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huntne, have you tried flashing the original firmware back to the hifi module?
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=74625.0

Mega PC 651 cant install Win98SE

Hi
Im cant install Win98SE (update-CD) on my new MSI MEGA 651.
Need it for some tasks.
W2K is running quit well, not yet fully installed (updated) but think will work.
4 Partitions on 160GB HDD (C: 10GB FAT32, and 3 others with NTFS)
On this first I like to have Win98SE.
Can run the Win-CD.
After first reboot (just after copy files from CD to HDD) it locks with IOS-Error.
When i try startup stepbystep i get message "cant write to PRN".
Already tried with anything disabled in Bios and lowest settings, just the same.
Tested the old vga.drv from windows, tried to reduce [CACHE] maxmemory
Nothing helps ...
Any idea?
PLEASE HELP
Other Problem, Fan is starting an stopping (or changing the speed continiously) all the time (about 2 seconds) an thats noicy. If it would run faster all the time it would be much better.
Why is it changing all the time?

in the meantime yes
dont know what of these two did help, but now I've got it.
I changed my first partition to 8 GB (I had 10GB) with Partition Magic
and I installed Win98 with MINIMUM-Installation features (instead of manual install).
No explorer and nothing else, just win98 with minimum configuration.
Possibly it hung because of wrong LAN-Port drivers I think, but dont know.
Dont like to try it again on and on to find the failure.
Just happy that I got it now.
BUT NOW my cooler-holder is BROKEN (black plastic part with 2 screws)!!!
The support let me know that they are already building new better ones ...
LETS WAIT for another chrismas!!!
My one is a monday-device ...
Greetings from Vienna

Mega PC 651 and graphicscards

I have an msi mega pc on the moment with an mx440se inside.
But as most of you know this is an slow and old. And i want to replace it but will it give any problems if i insert an graphicscard (from MSI or whatever) with an molex for extra power will my power supply hold this and is there enough space for it. Because ive `measured´ with my brothers fx5200 and that one has just enough space and won´t it produce much heat if i inserted an fx5700 or 5900 (depands on my budget)

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will it give any problems if i insert an graphicscard (from MSI or whatever) with an molex for extra power will my power supply hold this and is there enough space for it.
Tha PSU of the MEGA 651 has 200W. You might encounter problems if you put a very power-hungry videocard.
Of course, the total system power depends on the other components, too.
You can calculate the aproximate power needed with this: http://www.jscustompcs.com/power_supply/

Problem with Mega PC 651

Hi to all.
First of all I'm sorry for my English. I don't speak it very well cause I'm Italian.
I've purchased a MSI Mega PC 651 and I want to install my P4 2.8Ghz Northwood. The PC start correctly, but the bios post screen show that this processor is a P4 1.86Ghz and the multiplier is set to 14x. If I try to change it to 21x after I'm exiting from bios saving the settings, the multiplier is always 14x! Why!?
Microsoft windows XP SP2 and CPUz shows the correctly 2.8Ghz, but now I'm not sure that I'm using the full performances of 2.8Ghz or not...
Another question. I've downloaded the MSI Media Center Deluxe III but during the install it request a serial number. Where I can find/request it?
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Angelo

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Problems with Mega PC 651

Hi!!
I recently bought a MSI Mega PC 651 and equipped it with
CPU: Intel P IV 2.8 GHZ
RAM: 512 MB Kingston DDR 400
HD: 120 GB Maxtor 6Y120P0
DVD-RW: LG DVDRW 4040B
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BIOS v1.1, radio firmware v66 (after flash newest available)
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1. When I press the eject button on the Mega PC the DVD-RW (LG DVDRW 4040B) ejects, but when I press it again, it won’t close – it immediately ejects.
2. At the first start after booting in windows the TV-Software (msipvs v2.0.34.198) crashes to desktop without a error code when I press the time shift button. After a second start it works without crashing…
3. I updatet bios to v1.1 and radio firmware to v66 (the newest ones). When flashing the radio firmware I was prompted to enter a new welcome message with 7 characters. I only was able to enter 3 characters which ended up with a unwanted welcome message. When starting the flash utility a second time I wasn’t prompted to enter a message. Is there a little utility or another possibility to re-enter a welcome message?
Has anybody similar problems??
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After flashing the radio receiver's firmware to latest I also stumbled into same problem. Now when I turn it on it says only "W -" instead of "Welcome".
I'm trying as hard as possible to fix this problem, but Radio WebUpdate won't let me flash the firmware anymore because it has already been flashed to latest.
Now I'm downloading the latest radio receiver program and am hoping that I also get this Greeting program which can be used to change the normal greeting text!
Last version of radio receiver program didn't have Greeting program so if anyone of you guys have it I'd be more then happy to receive it!
You can send it directly to: [email protected]
It's nice to hear that I'm not the only one with this problem. Now I think I might even find a solution to the problem.
- Toni

Things to know before building a Mega 651 (and other things you should know afte

Okay, following hot on the heels of the "things to know" series on Mega 180 and 865, I thought I'd just chip in with this short post on what you should know before splashing out on a nice budget Mega 651
PROCESSOR SUPPORT:
The official list of supported CPUs can be found here:
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/slim_pc/slm/pro_slm_cpu_support_detail.php?UID=431&kind=4
Basically the ageing SiS651 chipset does not support Celeron / P4 cpus above 533mhz, and does NOT support the newer "Prescott" core cpus
Celeron > 400Mhz FSB
P4 Northwood > 533mhz FSB (512kb L2 cache)
MEMORY:
Basically to add to what is listed in the 865 "things to know"; from my own experience of using MSI motherboards in the past, ALWAYS use good quality branded memory, as using cheaper "generic" types inevitably leads to major problems. I know for a fact that Crucial, Kingston and Samsung types work well in MSI motherboards, and you should be okay with other high-end brands like Corsair and Geil.
DRIVERS:
DON'T bother using MSI LiveUpdate! The drivers provided on the cd supplied will work, but if you wish to download the latest drivers, you will find them here:
http://download.sis.com/
Download and install the:
Chipset Software > SiS AGP (Gart) Driver
IGP Graphics Drivers > SiS650 and 740 series
http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/dlac97-2.aspx?lineid=5&famid=12&series=8&Software=True
for Realtek AC97 Audio drivers
http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloads1-3.aspx?lineid=1&famid=3&series=16&Software=True
For Realtek Onboard Network interface
The modem drivers supplied on the CD should work, I really don't know much about them as I have never used them (sorry). Failing that, if you are connected to the internet, Windows Update should be able to find them for you.
OPERATING SYSTEM SUPPORT
MSI state that only Windows XP is supported on Mega 651 (and other Mega barebones). Other versions of Windows (98, ME, 2000) will work provided you have drivers for hardware devices, all of which are provided on the install CD or from the links supplied above.
You'll find that earlier versions of Windows won't have the drivers for the built-in card reader, so you may have to do a "google" search to get them. On my Mega 651, they are listed in Device Manager as "OEI-USB" devices.
If you haven't already got Windows XP then I suggest you consider upgrading at the earliest opportunity; Microsoft themselves no longer support Win 98 / ME and most new software is being designed to work only with Windows XP
Please note that MSI do NOT supply or support drivers for Linux; if you wish to attempt to install Linux on a Mega 651 (or other Mega PC model) you will need to obtain drivers yourself. The remote and LCD display functions will also not be available under Linux, unless some clever bod has developed drivers to do so.
MEGA RADIO AND LCD DISPLAY:
Download the Mega LiveUpdate for Mega 651 from here:
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/software/swr/spt_swr_detail.php?UID=431&kind=4
This will update your MEGA Radio program, update the BlueBird HIFi module firmware and allow you to set a "greeting" displayed on the LCD display when you switch on HiFi mode. Apart from that the LCD display serves NO other purpose in PC mode.
After updating the firmware, you should power off your Mega 651, unplug the mains power cord for a few seconds then reconnect and restart for changes to take place.
OTHER MSI SOFTWARE:
If you REALLY must try out MSI Media Center III, it does work on the Mega 651, but I don't think the remote will work correctly.
Although PCAlert 4 has been reported to work on the Mega 651 - having read the numerous problems most users have, I don't advise installing it. If you do get it to work correctly, unlike on the Mega 180 and 865, it will not display temps or fan speeds on the LCD display, as this feature only works on the 180 and 865, as they use diferent LCD displays.
EXPANSION CARDS:
Same as with other Megas, you get 1 AGP and 1 PCI slot.
The AGP slot only supports up to 4x cards; a faster card will work, but only at 4x.
Space is limited, if you decide to fit a PCI TV tuner card, you will be limited as to which AGP card you can fit. A full length card is probably not recommended, and a model with a slimline (or even passive) heatsink would be best.
A better alternative would be to go for a VGA card with built in TV tuner, such as MSI TV5200-VTDF128 or an ATI Radeon All-In-Wonder card (ATI AIW is supported in WinXP MCE05)
ON-BOARD VGA
The SiS651 chipset is pretty old now, and the on-board SiS650 VGA is not up to playing any of the latest games, as it is only DirectX 7.0 compliant and does not support Hardware Texture & Lighting. However, it is adequate for playing back DVDs as it supports hardware acceleration (in PowerDVD for example), and general video output is decent. The maximum shared video memory size is 64mb.
The Mega 651 does NOT feature TV-out as standard. You can however either buy an AGP video card which includes TV-out feature, or the Mega TV-out card (availble in UK from www.dabs.com). Please note, this card is ONLY for Mega 651, and does NOT work with the 865 model. (The 180 does however, thanks to nforce2 chipset, support TV-out as standard)
ON-BOARD AUDIO
The Realtek ALC650 AC97 audio codec offers 5.1 surround sound (with suitable speakers of course ) as well as SP-DIF for digital output.
The sound quality is quite reasonable; i'm currently listening to MP3s through a set of Creative Inspire 5.1 speakers, and its certainly good enough for me.
There are three audio connectors on the rear, they default to:
GREEN - Front speakers
BLUE - Line In
PINK - Mic
To connect surround sound speakers correctly, you need to use the Realtek audio configuration tool (located in the Taskbar by the clock). Set the speaker config to 4 or 6 channel (5.1) and then click on the boxes to the right to configure the rear ports correctly
GREEN - Front speakers
BLUE - Rear Speakers
PINK - Subwoofer / Centre Speaker
NOTE: If you do decide you want to install a PCI soundcard, be aware that you will lose the Radio function in PC mode, and for audio output in Hi-Fi mode you will need to reconnect audio plugs from your soundcard to onboard sockets. The Hi-Fi mode and Radio only work with the onboard audio.
POWER SUPPLY
All the Mega series barebones come with a 200w PSU. Don't even think about upgrading to a higher output type, as the Mega PSU is a non-standard type. A standard ATX PSU will NOT physically fit inside the Mega case. Besides which, the Mega series have a special connector which powers the Bluebird hi-fi module and on-board sound when the PC is off. And there is a special Molex power connector for the CD/DVD drive, also for that to be used when PC is off.
WINDOWS XP MCE 2005
Media Center 2005 requires a DirectX 8.1 / 9.0 compliant video card with a minimum of 64mb RAM, 128mb RAM is recommended, however, for best performance. So you will need an AGP card, because SiS do not provide any MCE-compatible drivers. The TV@anywhere TV tuner (MS8606-10) and Mega TV Tuner (MS8606-40) are not supported by MCE05, because MCE2005 requires a TV card that will provide a direct MPEG2 stream, which a PVR card such as the Hauppage PVR MCE series can do (as a hardware card, MSIs card are software only and rely on drivers to do MPEG encoding), or a dedicated DVB-T card which receives an MPEG2 signal over the air.
MEGA 651 REMOTE
If you fit an MSI TV@anywhere card to your Mega 651, the Mega remote can be used to control the MSIPVS software, providing you use the remote receiver supplied with the TV@nywhere card. The Mega remote is designed to work natively with the MSI Media Center, and MSI Mega Radio programs only.
If you wish to program the remote to operate other programs within windows, then you will need a program called Girder, and the accompanying MSI plugin, kindly provided by nathan. please see his sticky thread for more info, about his plugin, and how to obtain Girder.
BROKEN HEATSINK MOUNTING CLIPS
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=96148.0
Phew, thats about it. If any other Mega 651 users think I've missed anything out, please feel free to tell me.
For other general hints and tips, look through the "things to know" posts regarding the 865 and 180.
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PROCESSOR SUPPORT:
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http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/slim_pc/slm/pro_slm_cpu_support_detail.php?UID=431&kind=4
Basically the ageing SiS651 chipset does not support Celeron / P4 cpus above 533mhz, and does NOT support the newer "Prescott" core cpus
Celeron > 400Mhz FSB
P4 Northwood > 533mhz FSB (512kb L2 cache)
your processor is not supported. please start a new thread if you need help

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I got my hands on a 2nd hand msi Mega PC 651 for free because the case does not contain any CPU cooler and PSU.
Where can I bye these components?

Hi Lewis,
I presume you are refering to this guide?
http://www.msi.com.tw/html/support/manual/note/quick_installation.pdf
I don't think there are any better instructions, other than what you might get with the CPU. Here's some breif comments that may or may not help though:
Get an anti static strap and attach it to earth, (ie I leave my main PC plugged in and attach to it's chassis, when working on another PC)
Your CPU may be attached to the heatsink with thermal paste, if it is be very careful
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Once the heatsink is loose gently remove it, you may need to lift one side first or it may lift the whole CPU out
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cheers
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From this thread topic it seems really general but heres the deal...
I was recording some music with it and video editing the other night and the monitor went blank but the PC was still on.I rebooted and the PC started beeping with one long continuous beep.
From what i've found looking on here it seems to mean the RAM is faulty but i have managed to reboot for a while before experiencing the same problem which i'm guessing wouldnt be possible without any RAM
I opened up the case to inspect and noticed the heatsink clamps are broken which obviously isn't good because it means the CPU isn't being cooled as well as it could be but i have managed to sit the heatsink on the CPU with the thermal compound keeping it in place.I have emailed MSI to get some spare clamps but i'm not sure this will solve the problem.
As i have said tho i have managed to reboot the machine and work on it and then it shuts off again
The HDD light stays on when everything is powered up.Sometimes i get the continuous beep, sometimes i don't and sometimes it boots up like nothing is wrong.
Is it because the CPU is getting too hot? Or is it something else like the BIOS, the CPU or the mainboard itself?
Also...some segments are missing from the LCD display causing characters to not display properly - do i need to get a new LCD screen or can i rectify it with software or something?
Please help me
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I found someone had posted about getting spare clamps on here and they were successful in getting some from MSI
I just copied and pasted the email this user had sent to MSI to get them and they sent me some
The machine has been working again but is a really troublesome system
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It's just problem after problem

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I'm looking for detailed instructions on how to remove the cpu/heatsink from a MSI Mega PC 651. So far the manual has been useless and the Quick install guide isn't even about the MEGA PC series. Can anyone supply detailed step-by-step instructions on how to remove the cpu/heatsink safely?
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Hi Lewis,
I presume you are refering to this guide?
http://www.msi.com.tw/html/support/manual/note/quick_installation.pdf
I don't think there are any better instructions, other than what you might get with the CPU. Here's some breif comments that may or may not help though:
Get an anti static strap and attach it to earth, (ie I leave my main PC plugged in and attach to it's chassis, when working on another PC)
Your CPU may be attached to the heatsink with thermal paste, if it is be very careful
On my 865 the CPU heatsink is screwed to the motherboard, it may also be held on with levers. Disconnect it as appropriate
Once the heatsink is loose gently remove it, you may need to lift one side first or it may lift the whole CPU out
Once the heatsink is out lift the CPU lever, the CPU will easily lift out
you may wish to remove the old thermal paste from the CPU and heatsink, I use ArctiClean 1+2 check your CPU supplier for options
put the CPU straight into an antistatic bag
Only when you are finished playing with your PC insides should you take off the antistatic strap
If you are still unhappy with these instructions try checking out the Intel or AMD website for help
Hope this helps
cheers
Rich

I have 'not enough space' cursed Pages; even though I have plenty of room it refuses to let me download and install it.

Common problem, except all trouble shooting leads to the suicide of the question asker because it yields only claims that no matter what you say, you need to make MORE space. It's a 30 meg file, I have 500 meg free. I have deleted and redownloaded and rebooted about thirty times, in various combinations.
Previously I have cursed many apps this way, always free apps, so I just accepted they were 'dead' to my phone, even after iOS updates and ever since the iPhone 3 this problem has existed (ie: if you didn't have enough space when you START downloading the first time, kiss that app goodbye for life, it just WILL NOT download EVER.) and will either sit at 'Waiting' for a while then claim there's not enough space, or just sit at 'Waiting' indefinitely and progress no further.
The only thing I haven't tried is formatting the entire thing as a fresh phone and retrying, but that's pretty extreme. Has Apple acknowledged this bugs existance yet? Every support thread I see gets replies of "Make more space." no matter what the asker states and eventually the guy just stops coming back and asking, so they're all pretty much unresolved.
Just for the record, I have extensive experience with technology, and am not mentally disabled, so please feel free to talk to me at the level at which your inner voice talks to you, I assure you I will get it. So, can has halp plz? 8(
(PS: I cannot update to the lates iOS 7 as I do not have the insane size required for it to decompress and install, etc, and to do so would require deleting things I cannot lose or having to back it all up manually because there's no convenient way to do it otherwise. Although I can assure you that this problem has been present since the iPhone 3 first came out which was my first iPhone and has been present in every iOS update since, so I have no reason to believe out of the dozens of updates that iOS 7 has addressed this.)

When you don't have enough storage to perform an operation, then you don't have enough storage. have you got the 16GB iphone?

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Thanks
Niblet

I'll try installing the new SCM program tonight, though the original ones that came on the disc didn't work (they did on a standard install of XP that I did)
I'll post my findings later.

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