Memory Corruption on K8N Neo Platinum - HELP!

I am having some problems with my cousin’s computer that I built for her last September. She brought me the computer because she got an error that the system32/config/system file was corrupted and couldn’t boot the computer. I got the file replaced and got the computer re-updated to where it worked. Then the same thing happened again. This time I did a Windows reinstall and the computer acted a little sluggish and iffy so I did a memory test. I found the memory was all corrupted.
First here are the pc specs:
MSI K8N Neo Platinum with 1.7 bios
Athlon 64 3000+
120GB Seagate SATA hard drive
NEC DVD Burner and Samsung DVD ROM
Radeon 9550
512MB Corsair Value Select 2.5CL DDR400
Antec 350W psu and Antec Case
I ran Memtest86+ v1.6 and the Corsair stick had errors in Test 3, 4, 5, and 7. In tests 3 and 4 there are 50 errors but at the 98% of Test 5, the errors jumped to 146,432 and they were 500.8MB part of the stick. I got the same results when I moved it to DIMM2 slot. I also get the same results when the HT is at 1x or 4x.
I tried a known working 512MB stick from my sisters Athlon XP 2500+ pc in the A64 pc. It is a Mushkin PC3200 Basic stick. I get errors only at 98% of Test 5 which amounts to 109,568 errors. Same results in DIMM2 slot.
But when I test the Mushkin in my sisters pc, it has no errors. But the Corsair stick in the AXP pc gets errors on Tests 1, 3, 4, 5 (only at the 98% mark), 6, 7, 8 but only a total of 317 (a lot less than 146,000 in the A64 pc.)
So, I know the Corsair memory is bad, but now something is also wrong with the motherboard and /or cpu right?
If you need any more info let me know. I’m new to the forums and they look very helpful.
Thanks.

Quote from: blazing storm on 23-August-05, 05:30:00
Look in the bios and loosen up the RAM settings. Make sure the RAM isn't being stressed into settings that are too hard for it to handle.
See I told you to loosen it up...
I speak from experience as the same happened to me and loosening settings stopped errors.
Glad you managed it, well done...

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I have been having issues with my memory on the k8n neo platinum board since i built the system last month and i just recently discovered a fact I had overlooked.
I Have discovered that if i test the system while it is cool (having sat turned off overnight for example), then memtest will pass the ram just fine and the system will be stable for a short period of time, generally longer if no intensive applications are used, ie. doom3 vs. websurfing).
This system, once it heats up ( seems mostly to be the nvidia 3 nb that needs to be "hot"- that is, a probe placed in contact with the module reaches about 58+ degrees c) then the system becomes unstable and memtest, if used, fails.
Prime95, if used on it when its cool, will usually take about an hour or so to fail, but if its used on the system when its been running a bit ( temps from nb at 58c+ and memory module hot to the touch) then it fails after about 20-30 seconds.
I have placed an active hs on the nb in an attempt to correct this, but temps still remain high with failures occuring.
I have spent the better part of three days testing the sytem this way and the above facts have held true in all these tests.
I have tested at stock ratings ( not using "auto" in bios, but using "approved ratings" of 10 x 200 for fsb and timings of 2-3-3-7 for my ram at 1:1 (which is recommended as well) since i am testing for base stability at this point;Voltages have been left at auto settings, however.
I was wondering if anyone else with memory issues could try this out and post if this seems to be the case for you as well.
Perhaps the memory issues on these boards are directly related to a problem with the nvidia 3 chipset running too hot?
Does anyone have a memory issue with these boards who is using water cooling on the NB ?
Lack of issues from people using 'problem" memory, but having no failures with water cooled nb's would support my assumption.

Yes i did mean chipset.
I am using a stock hs/fan from amd, which seems to run a tad hot but, considering that I wont overclock until I can get board stable, its not an issue. (runs 35-40 idle and up to 72 intensive). I need the warranty more then the extra mhz at present.
I removed the stock heatsink from the nvidia chipset and bought a generic chipset cooler (green, very little in the way of fins and seems to be aluminum) with a small fan.
I used a generic silver paste from Compusa to adhere both the cpu hs and the chipset.
I didnt lap either hs, just installed each as per instructions on artic silvers website (figured it had to go on the same way even generic).
I also bought a kingwin thermal center which i ran probes from to the cpu, case, and nb chipset.
I am not using it to adjust fans so those arent connected - its just a reference temp I can see at a glance, esp considering the funky bios reading this boards been known to give.
I assume from these responces that even a nvidia 3 250 chipset shouldnt get as hot as mine?
I asked about that from the retailer i bought this from but he seemed to think it was "ok" at 50ish celcius, but then again he didnt look too confident when he said it, lol.
Idle right now reads on Corecenter at 28 celcius for cpu and 33 celcius for the chipset, although, I have readings of 37 c and 43 c from the kingwin thermal center, which i believe to be more accurate.
My voltage reads at 11.67 for the 12v line at idle right now.
The psu i got is stick from the xblade case i bought in store. (http://www.xoxide.com/xblade2.html)
I have a dvd burner, cd drive, and two maxtor ide hd's attached to the system;The only card is the agp.
Is there a way to check and see if the cpu ispower starved? software monitor or even an external probe perhaps?
I havent put a probe on it, but the ram came in its own heatspreader, which gets very hot to the touch as well.
What temps should I be looking for on these items?

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http://www.datorbutiken.com/se/defa...2X512DDRCA400PR
Is this memory ok with MSI K8N NEO Platinum Edition ?
If it is, do you know how well its oc:s?

He would be talking about this:
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MSI K8N NEO Platinum Edition memory question

Hi there,
I've currently got a MSI K8N NEO Platinum Edition (Nforce 3) motherboard and 2X 512 MB Corsair Value Select memory modules (both double sided) running at DDR 400 - this runs completely stable and has done for a number of months. I would like to increase my memory to 1.5 Gig but there seems to be a lot of issues?
I originally planned to buy an additional 512 Meg Corsair value select chip and place it in Bank 3 - is this acceptable?
I assue that i would have to drop the speed down to DDR 333 from 400, could anyone tell me how much of a difference this actually makes (when playing FPS games Doom3 etc..) ?
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Then it doesnt matter if they are exposed, as long as they are ok.
A good tip, which got when i was removing my backplate, is to use a blow dryer to heat it up and the remove it with your fingers. That way youll also notice if it gets to hot
The glue gets sticky at blow drier temps. And pls, dont singe the MB with your blow dryer, you only have to make it hot, and if you cant touch it, how can you remove it with your fingers?
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Help plz!! k8n neo platinum... :(

hi guys, im new here, and i dont know what else to do.... :( so this is the situation:
I just bough my new mobo and cpu like a month ago, and it all works fine... but last week i bought a new memory Kington PC3200 value ram 512mb, and now everthing is a hell :(
at beginning windows crash and blue screens are all the time, then i decided to format c and reinstall windows xp pro...
now everything is worst!!!!
i cant even install win xp, it crash all of a sudden, or it just blue screen while it's intalling the windows... :(
i dont know what to do or what is wrong.. i test the ram in other pc and it works fine...
whe the ram is in dimm 1 the windows setup just froze in the "starting windows" while in dimm 2 or 3 it goes all the way to installing windows, but then latter it just crash...
i have almost everything in the bios in auto... and i dont know what else to do :'( plz help me out...
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MSI K8N Neo Platinum
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Those are what's usually called memory timings. Before you try adjusting those numbers, you should try clocking the RAM down from 200 to 166 in the BIOS and see how that works. Also try to set your RAM at 2T instead of 1T and see what that does.
If you want to mess with the timings, the following comes directly from this post: Overclocking Guide
"Memory Speed
Memory speed is often tied to the FSB. For example, a Double Data Rate (DDR) 400 memory has frequency 200MHz and the module rating is PC3200. Half the performance increase you may see from overclocking a CPU comes from increasing the speed at which the processor can talk to the memory.
When you buy memory, you may see it has label 2-3-3-7-1T. And you may also hear people saying my memory is a 2-3-3-7 one. But what does it mean? The answer is:
CAS Latency = 2 clock cycles
tRCD = RAS to CAS delay = 3 clock cycles
tRP = RAS Precharge = 3 clock cycles
tRAS = Active to Precharge = 7 clock cycles
Command Rate = 1 clock cycle
Different motherboards may call the above differently and not all of them will appear in the BIOS. You may need to check with your motherboard’s support team and the motherboard manual. If you have any option above in your BIOS, you can also start to adjust them. Obviously, the smaller the number the faster the memory will be.
To know more about memory please read:
http://www.corsairmicro.com/corsair/prod...3707/index.html
AND
Memory Roundup
AND
http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2223
Keep in mind that this RAM you are using has already been reported as not working well with this mobo. In addition, when you have to start tweaking BIOS RAM performance down from the defaults, just to get it to work, it's not generally a good thing and means you're RAM is not up to snuff.
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MSI K8N NEO PLATINUM BlueScreen Issue! Help!

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Help: MSI K8N Neo Platinum

I've had nothing but problems trying to get this system running properly at any overclocking selections. Can you please review my components and give me suggestions on how to improve my situation.
Currently my know problems are 1. The Mother Board will only read my (2) 200/Gig Hard drives as 127/Gigs. 2. Slighest overclocking & system won't boot up.
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Get the latest bios for the neo it is a truly fast board when set up right.
Your 3d mark 01 should be in the 15k to 20k range
If you are running 200gb hdds you need to run sp1 on windows xp as xp does not recognise drives over 137gb
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drop your htt to 3x
before you try to over clock you system get it running well at stock speeds or you will end up in a mess, there is not much point o/cin if its not.
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MSI K8N Neo Platinum with Vapochill Case problems - Help anyone. :)

Hi all,
Had a bit of a tricky problem and as Im new to this board I have no idea what could be causing this.
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Nvidia Gefore 6600GT
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Hey folks,
Refer to this thread for info ... Help ... my pc won't turn on!
I'll start off with the system specs so you'll have an idea of what I'm going to be talking about :
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So I bought the parts ... 2 months ago. I used it for about 1 month ...ran like a dream. Died ... RMA'ed the motherboard, and a month later, I get it. I assemble the system, doesn't post the first time I turn it on. Shut it off, posts ... attempts to log onto the Windows partition that is on the hard drive i used it with ... gets into Windows logon screen, and crashes. On several occasions, I noticed the system switched off on its on for some reason. Switch off the system, try again, and it crashes. Switch it off (by holding on the case switch, then switching off the power supply). This time, I switch the PS back on again, and the system fans start, but nothing comes on screen, or posts. I noticed on the video card, the fan starts up, but then stops after it realizes that the system hasn't posted (heatsink is cool). I know the video card works because I just pulled it out of my spare system ... and it works just fine. I have no idea what is going on. I don't know what to do. Any help is greatly apprecitated.
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Just remembered to attach the diagnostic d-bracket. I get red, red, green, red.
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Ok answers to your questions:
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1) Is the next step is to revert back to 1.8? Then if that doesn't work, back to my original 1.7?
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Quote from: rubengomes on 14-January-07, 22:00:09
thanks for the reply... butt it still does not work...
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Hi guys...
Sorry for my english... I'm brazilian.
I have a K8n Neo Platinum and Clawhammer 3000+. I disassembly and cleaned up all entire case/MB. Then i plugged all cables and tried to turn on my computer.The PC does not turn on and the lan's orange led just blink. The power supply and his fan doesnt spin around.
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