Memory(??) Errors, 875p NEO

Hello everyone...
im having some strange problems with my computer, im trying to unpack anything bigger (zip, rar etc) and om getting alot of strange error messages, i downloaded the new Commandos 3 demo and tried to unpack it and got some error messages that some of the files coudn't be unpacked, tried with some other things packed in rar that i know that the files are ok but didn't work there either..
tried to run Prime95 test with low memory usage and it seems to run fine...
tried memtest and i belive it popped some errors there too, and tried to run Prime95 Torture test and put it to use the memory alot and it couldn't run the test getting an error message that it's some hardware error...
is there anything i can do to fix it?
my system spec:
Pentium 4 3.0 C (hyper-threading) 800 mhz FSB
MSI 875p NEO FISr-2
Corsair CMX512-3200C2 XMS3200 512Mb
Hercules 3D PRophet ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
IBM Deskstar 30 gig
Western Digital 80 gig
my mind is tottaly blank right now, anything i've missed please ask ..

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Originally posted by Assaf
I wouldn\'t be surprised if that\'s your problem, you have a kick ass system and you need a kick as PSU to feed it.
Might I suggest an Antec True Power 430/550, Enermax 430 etc...
Something that is reliable and gives at least 220W combined for 3.3+5V rails ( an doesn\'t just print 220w combined on the sticker either, I can buy tose for 15$ )
If it was a simple timing problem the RAM would be fixed at 333MHz already, if it was an actual bad stick it would probably give errors at any frequency.
a Antec True Power 480W ATX (AMD&P4 OK) are on the way, you think it's enough?
about the memory, 333 didn't work, caused errors in memtest, 266 didn't...

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System running -> I shut it down or choose reboot -> System powers down and fails to powerup with one of the above D-LED infos.
->
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->
BIOS settings checksum fails, press F1 and go into the bios to typically raise memory voltage and AGP arperture size.
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->
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I emailed MSI's support now once again with the same message I included in the top (and went through the autoresponder-resent procedure), no answer yet but we'll see if they get back to me this time. Otherwise I'm starting to doubt if I will ever get it sorted =/
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I posted this message last night but I think it got lost in space.
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What am I doing wrong?
What should the cofigreration for the bios onboard ID chip be. I have Mine set in Native mode, P ATA + S ATA, NO, NO, Both, S ATA 1st channel, S ATA PO1 PO2 Raid NO
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Hi back
Thanks again for the response, followed your instructions now I show a 82801eb under the controler section. Is that all I needed? Another question I like to keep a copy of windows 98 se on my other drive and would like to use the F11 key to boot to it. Is there a procedure of installing it so I don't screw up my XP system. I use a disk tray to keep the drive in so I can take it out for safety as I also store backups of my personel files on it. Your sugestions are really appreciated. Swan705

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Hi, I appreciate any help with this question. I own 2 different MIS motherboards currently and would like to know which would be the better one to use for my system build.
875P Neo-FISR
or
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BIOS - Integrated Peripherals
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A friend of mine never had any troubles with it, then again, he might not tell me, or he is lucky. But based on his 'good' experience I have a 875P lying here right now.
I cannot use it yet since I am missing a graphic card to go with it, I expect that to arrive next Tuesday. Im a bit nervous now.....
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I have to say the 875P is definitely NOT a bad motherboard as long as you have approved components. It works very well for "standard" usage. It has all of the top features from Intel - 875P chipset, 10Gbit CSA, ICH5R, ADI audio, firewire, etc.
I am concerned with some things MSI could/should have done better in the first place:
1. Wrong NB temp (and it seems to be affected by NBFAN)
2. No SFAN speed monitoring though it wouldn't have cost more to put it in ... X(
3. Slow frequency of BIOS release or update fixes vs other "top tier" motherboard manufacturers
4. More issues than others with popular memory modules
5. Confusing or "poorly documented" BIOS features/interface leave tweakers less in control
6. Corecell, DOT & MAT, BIOS are still a work in progress
When you start looking for topnotch performance and stability via tweaking OR major overclocking - that is where it falls short - contrary to what their marketing says.
Read this thread where an 875P owner compares his new Asus P4C800E Deluxe (after his 875P Neo failed and had to go for RMA). I summarize his "review" here:
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Criteria on MSI 875P Neo-FIS2R vs ASUS P4C800E DeLuxe
Ease in setting up P4C800E
Memory compatibility P4C800E
Overclocking
- setting options Neo
- higher performance P4C800E
- lower temperatures P4C800E
- lower voltages P4C800E
Video card compatibility Neo
Hard drive performance Same
Benchmark scores Est. 5% better on Asus vs MSI
Extra Goodies:
ASUS - ability to use USB ARMD devices and emulate them as floppies, HDD, and even CD-ROM
MSI - AUTO overclocking (Captain, etc. on the Neo boards - 5%, 10% etc on the Asus boards) works much better
quote:
... the Asus is much less of a problem child when setting up. So my final ruling is, don't expect much more from the ASUS board, but if you are fed up with your 875P Neo, or are returning/RMA-ing your board anyway, you might be pleasantly surprised with what the ASUS P4C800/E/Deluxe can do for you.
I think you'll find similiar comparisons from 865PE Neo2 users who had tried the P4P800...
So far many have said they're still keeping their MSI boards when RMA comes back
Conclusions:
- Good HW but FW/SW satsifactory~needs_improvement. :]
- If you don't do major tweaking , and want stability + full features, the 875P is a GOOD board overall, IMHO. 8)

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i have a P4 3.06GHZ 533fsb northwood processor - now, will this work in the MSI 875P NEO?
i have a 655 MAX now and what a bad egg that turned out to be after all the hype about it, so i decided to take all recent advice, leave SiS and go Intel
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WD 120GB 8MB Special Edition HDD
ATi Radeon 9700 Pro
2x256 OCZ pc-3200
400 watt PSU
i dont think the processor will be a problem, but for some reason i was questioning it, everything else should be fine. thanks for any input, you guys have been a great help through my 1st commputer building experience

i just saw something intersting on the information page for the 875P neo-lsr
go here : http://www.msicomputer.com/product/detail_spec/product_detail.asp?model=875P_NEO-LSR
now scroll down under main memory and it says "(*In order to use DDR 400, FSB 800 CPU is required)"
why would this be?? i have a p4 3.06 with 533 mhz fsb in my 655 max now and run dual ddr-400, why would it require 800 mhz fsb to use ddr-400 in a newer board? is it something with the chipset? also if it is not possible for me to use the ddr-400 is already have, can i use it as ddr-333?

Where to find M.A.T. in BIOS of a 875P Neo LSR?

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Currently I'm using:
P4 3.0GHz 800MHz FSB
2*512MB Kingston HyperX PC3200 CL2
MSI 875P Neo LSR (BIOS v1.6)
I'm wondering where I can enable P.A.T. or MSI's M.A.T.?
After reading something about BIOS version 1.6 enabling M.A.T. , I flashed from 1.2 to 1.6.
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Best regards,
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Okay... Okay... This is generally for MSI, no reason to take offence.. anyone. Or maybe just the guy who never used computer(apparently) but designed BIOS for this board.
I Have NEO FISR2 motherboard, and the problems I have seem to be something like people here have.
PAT isn't enabled if you overclock. What ever you do, Ultra Turbo or turbo.. nothing helps. Is there a reson for this?
If I drop memory to 333 and raise FSB, should the numbers in BIOS at memory speed show what it actually is, never have done so... And if I raise FSB and memory speed is at 400MHz why isn't PAT enabled, memory isn't overclocked?
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Almost all memory related settings are in BIOS for some other reason than adjusting setting on this motherboard, they don't affect anything. At least not for me. Maybe I was wrong thinking this board could be user for overclocking, those volt settings propably are there for show too. Nothing to do with overclocking, because you will never get everything out from this board. At least not if BIOS is working like this.
I did simple test, raised volt for memory to 2.90. Whopee. Raised FSB to 230, and left the memory setting at 400MHz. Changed by hand Cas setting to more relaxed ones.
Quess, which changes of these actually did something? FSB and Volts. For some unbelievably stupid reason board changes automatically both CAS(VERY RELAXED) settings and memory setting. Try Sandra, see for yourself.
Please, let me know if I'm doing something wrong, this is new board and new BIOS, maybe I'm missing something...
OR this is the most lamest try I have ever seen to put out decent BIOS. Nothing makes sense, thank you very much for wasting hours and hours of my time while I was trying to figure out why everything didn't work like I expexted, after all, there where so many "pretty buttons to press" that did nothing.
ARGH! X(

875P NEO - Strange problem with SATA non RAID on Promise 20378

Hello,
After replacing an IDE harddisk suddenly my S-ATA drive connected to the Promise 387 controller can not be found anymore.
When booting it says: No devices found, BIOS not installed. I got the the advice to disable S-ATA in the BIOS, but then no S-ATA drive will work ofcourse.
So here is my situation:
- MSI 875P Neo-FISR (PCB 2.0) mainboard with A6758 BIOS version
BIOS settings:
Integrated Peripherals:
- On board Promise IDE = as S-ATA
On Chip IDE configuration:
- P-ATA only
- S-ATA keep enabled = NO (wouldn't know what this means)
- P-ATA channel selection = Both (if set otherwise it will not recognize the second IDE
controller, strange!)
- S-ATA ports defintion: P0-4th/ P1-3rd (standard setting)
- Config as RAID = NO
Also I have the Promise 1.0.1.29 drivers installed within XP, I know that MSI says 378_55 is the latest, but when installing a clean XP these drivers did not work at all, so I installed the old ones.Within XP it is recognized btw as being a "WinXP Promise SATA378 IDE controller"
What I am wondering now is:
Is it true the Promise controll controls the 3rd IDE controller as well as the S-ATA HDD? And if so can someone please tell what would be the correct settings in the BIOS when having 2 IDE HDD's connnected to the third IDE controller and 1 S-ATA disk on the Promise controller? Because the strange thing only 1 IDE HDD is recognized by XP, the other IDE HDD and S-ATA not.
Ok, I hope I was a little bit clear, I'm really desperate , so I hope you can help me out !!

Not sure what the problem is.
Like I said, all the settings in Integrated Peripherals>>On-Chip IDE Config should only affect the Intel controller(IDE1&2,Serial1&2)
The only interaction you have with the Promise controller(IDE3,Serial3&4) is through Integrated Peripherals>>Promise Controller(As SATA, As Raid, Disabled). You can also select a drive connected to the Promise as a boot device from Bios>>Advanced Features>>Boot Device Select.
I would take a step back and start over a little more slowly.
My assumption so far is that you have WinXP installed on a drive on the Intel controller and that it is booting/functioning properly.
You are trying to install 2 IDE and 1 SATA drives on the Promise controller.
1- In Device Manager, right-click on the Promise 378 controller and select uninstall. If you know for sure that the "Raid Consolel SCSI Processor Device" is from a driver you installed for the Promise controller, uninstall that too. Otherwise leave it alone.
2- Shutdown/Unplug power and disconnect all 3 drives from the Promise controller.
3- Plugin power/Boot to the Bios and set the Promise controller to "disabled". Also make sure Intel "On-Chip IDE Config" menu "Config SATA As Raid" option is set to "NO"
4- Save and reboot to WinXP. There should be no Bios errors and the Promise entries in Device Manager should be gone.
5- Shutdown/Unplug Power and reconnect 1 drive(the SATA to Serial3 for simplicity) Power + data cables!
6- Plugin power/boot to Bios and set Promise controller to "As SATA"
7- Save and reboot. You should see the drive name briefly after the initial post screen if you've disabled the MSI splash screen.
8- WinXP should say something about finding a new SCSI device. If not just see if it's in Device manager and right-click>>"Install Drivers" and point it to the driver folder from before and install the "WinXP Promise SATA378 (tm) IDE Controller Driver". Not the Fastrack ones for raid.
9- Now after another reboot if the SATA drive isn't visible from Windows Explorer, try the diskmgmt.msc utility again.
10- If all this works, try adding 1 of the IDE drives by shutting down again, installing the HDD and checking the Disk Manager. If the drives are already partitioned/formatted you wouldn't need to use Disk Manager. Repeat with the 3rd drive.
If this doesn't work, let me know which step you got to and the problem encountered.

Memory(??) Errors, 875p NEO

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