Memory reading as 166mhz on a K7N2 Delta2

Hi,
I have just installed an K7N2 Delta2 mobo into a case with a 333mhz XP-3000 and put a couple of strips of DDR333 PC2700 memory.
I am having problems with installing Windows XP with file copying errors and blue screens at random.
Something I noticed before I go down the route of new PSU, BIOS etc is that the memory on the boot screen is saying DDR at 166mhz in Dual Channel Mode.  Should this not read DDR at 333mhz.
I have tried some other memory (crucial) becasue I know that the current memory is only value stuff and this Crucial memory fails to allow me to install XP also.
Should DDR333 memory be seen as 166mhz on the post screen?

Hi,
Thanks BOSSKILLER.
I have found the memory test to show up thousands of errors so replaced with another type which doesn't error and it still fails to install XP.  The only way I had to get around it and for it to be fine is to set the CPU to "By SPD" and that then works.
Interestingly, I put the failed memory into a MSI KM4M-L board and ran the memory test and it doesn't error.  I am writing this response with a machine using this failed memory.  It seems like a compatibility issue.
I still have "DDR at 166mhz" on the post screen so if thats right then I'm done.
Thanks for your help.

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