Memory speed on K8T Master2

I've always seen my current memclock in BIOS as 166MHz as it should be, since I use 166MHz/DDR333 memory. These sticks are placed in the two slots closest to CPU0, slot 1 and 2 as I figured that should support dual channel.
But some days ago I came across CPU-Z, which reports my memclock to be 100MHz, CPU/14 and single channel operation mode.
I'm not sure if this program is trustworthy or not, but this seems a bit odd to me. Is this information correct?

Pretty much what I thought but I had to make sure. I wouldn't want my memory running 100MHz.

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Problems with my multipler on a K8T Master2

I recently upgraded to the FX-51 running on the K8T-Master2. When I run CPU-z, it says my orginal multiplier was 11 (which would allow my CPU to run at 2200 GHz, its actual speed), but my current multiplier is 9 (so i run at 1.8 GHz). Any suggestion on a reason why this is? Found a program that allows me to change my multiplier to 11, but it hard locks my system. Is the chip flawed or can I change the multiplier on the board?

The FX does not have a locked mulitplier setting so the multiplier needs to be set on the mb. The point tug, me, and many others are making here is that MSI says the K8T Master2-FAR MSI Part No. MS-9130 supports a single FX CPU - MSI says :
• Supports Single CPU (Socket 940) for AMD® Athlon-64 FX 51 series or Opteron 100 series (1-way) or Opteron 200 series (2-ways) CPU.
• Supports Dual CPUs (Socket 940) for AMD® Opteron™ 200 series (2-ways) processors and up (SledgeHammer DP)
read it:
http://www.msicomputer.com/product/detail_spec/product_detail.asp?model=K8T_Master2-FAR
The problem is that the bios does not seem to support the CPU and no where can we find an update that will enable the cpu to run with a multiplier of 11 to get the 2200 MHz performace the Athlon-64 FX 51 is rated at without overclocking the chip.
Note also that the K8T Master2-FAR board also comes with 2 heat sinks that are at the very lowest end of what the Athlon-64 FX 51 needs for thermal control. The mb also causes XP to occasionally report the wrong memory in the operating system using ECC Corsair 3200LL with 2 sticks 512 mb each.
Bottom Line for me is that i paid about $1400 for a cpu and motherboard that is barely equal to my old P4 3.06.
MSI states clearly that the CPU is supported which implies that there is must be a way to set it up in the bios to run at 2.2 MHz without oc'ing the CPU. The problem for me is that it is less than obvious as to how to acomplish this task.
Any ideas?

Windows XP 64bit extended systems edition SATA Drivers for MSI-9130 K8T Master2-FAR

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Processor: AMD Athlon 64 FX 51 2.2Ghz 1ML2
Motherboard/Chipset: MSI-9130 K8T Master2-FAR (VIA K8T800) dual channel DDR400
Memory: 1GB total (2x512) actually needs to specifically be Corsair CMX512RE-3200LL XMS3200R 1.1 400Mhz 2326 512MB DDR400 Register ECC
Disk: 160GB Serial ATA Seagate ST3160023AS
Video: Radeon 9800 Pro 8X AGP graphics with 128MB DDR memory

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Hi everyone, few questions about the K8T Master2-FAR;

Hi,
Ive just registered with this forum and have been reading all the messages and find everything very interesting. I know you probably have all heard the same questions before and I am really sorry for asking them again but I just need to clear some things up in my head. Before I ask the question I just need use all to know that Im far from a computer expert so pretty please dont go into to much technical detail. This is actually the 1st computer I built myself. (Everyone I come accross in the desing world is G5 Mac this and G5 Mac that, so thought I would build a system that matching the G5). If you think something is to hard to myself I wont be offended:) Im actually at uni studying Media Design so use my machine for Dreamweaver, photoshop, flash, afterfx and some movie editing etc and some programming......
(Hope i havent bored everyone already)
My comp:-
K8T Master2-FAR
2x Opterons 242
2g ram(pretty decent memory i think!)
nVidia GFX5500 256mb
Maxtor sata 120g Hard Drive
My questions are:-
1) When I had finished building the comp I remember CoreCentre showing a reading of 3600 (the multiplier was sitting on 20 i think!!!) yet I can get nowhere near that now. The highest I can get is 1760, 220x8 mhz. Has anyone else experienced this?
2) If my processors are 1.6 ghz why is the lowest reading not 3600 mhz? This really confuses me and makes me believe that only 1 processor is doing its job. But I know that cant be it because at startup its states 2 cpu's and when I press ctr+alt+delete there are 2 cpu boxes. Is it a problem with corecentre?
3) Can i, and if so, where and how can i increase the multiplier? When I was installing something big(think is was final cut studio) the multiplier went upto x9 but that was it.
4) I think this is most important, I only have the BIOS version that came with instalation cd. I have ran LiveUpdate and doesnt show anything under the BIOS bitty. Where can I find out what bios version I have? Im quessing I have version 1.0 and from reading this forum for a week and working up enough courage to create my first post, I noticed people talking about version 1.4. the BIOS sound pretty important so can someone email me the newest version and a dummies guide to installing(if thats what its called lol) it. My home email is [email protected].
If anyone read this then thank you very much and if you reply I would be very gratefull.
Thanks again
liam

Hi,
You need to remove CoreCenter and install CoreCenterPro, those are different versions.
As for the multiplier, that can't be upped with Opterons and the current BIOS'ses won't even allow you to change it at all.
Maybe the upcomming 1.4 BIOS will change that, but I'm not sure as I didn't see the feature in BIOS 1.4B7.
Anyway, stay away from the 1.4x BIOS'ses at the moment, as most will render the board dead.
At the moment overclocking the Opterons on this board isn't possible.
I can't even do much with my FX-51 as the BIOS doesn't have those features.
It might change when MSI release the final 1.4 BIOS, but the latest beta still has many buggs.

K8T Master2-FAR Bios v1.4 (9130) Help

Hello of people
I have the following problem
My board is a MSI K8T Master2-FAR Bios v1.4 (9130)
Property me 2x Opteron 248 bought.With this Bios when starting 2 CPU' s is indicated to me
But with Vista Ultimate and Vienna XP pro in the task manager only one CPU is indicated,
in the equipment manager however two are indicated.
Property installs already again however without success.
I have the Msi support already written down however without success.
To US support says I is to the German support to turn, that I made
Say the board is not any longer manufactured I is for my problem to the forum to turn.
Someone has a solution possibly another Bios.
I already tried these versions out
1.0, 1,1 thereby does not run the CPU' s
1.35 thereby go it are however very unstable.
Apology for my bad English
Powermicha
Sorry
Motherboard ID   11/26/2003-K8HTB-8237-6A7L0M4DC-00
Motherboard Name   MSI K8T Master1/2-FAR (MS-9130)
CPU    2x AMD Opteron 248, 2200 MHz (11x 200)
CPU Nr: OSA248FAA5BL, CAB1E D637APMW
Memory Module 2 x 1 GB Micron 36VDDT12872G-265C2, ECC. REG 133 MHz
AGP 8x: nVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT
Creative Audigy 2 ZS (SB0350) Sound Card
Drive - SATA RAID 0 2 x 160 GB MAXTOR STM3160813AS
LC-POWER LC8850 Arkange
Max. 850 Watt max.
(DC Output) +3.3V30 A
(DC Output) +5V 28 A
(DC Output) +12V 18 A
(DC Output) +12V 218 A
(DC Output) +12V 318 A max.
(DC Output) +12V 418 A
OS Name   Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate 32bit
Microsoft Windows XP Pro 32bit

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MSI K8T Master2-FAR won't boot!!

Ok, I have the Athlon 64 FX-51 with the MSI K8T Master2-FAR. I have one gigabyte of REGISTERED Memory (Corsair), 500W Power Supply, 120GB Seagate SATA HDD, DVD, DVD-RW, FDD, & 250MB Zip Drive. Everything is (as far as I know) installed properly, but when I try to power it up, it doesn't start up. Nothing will come on the screen, but the fans spin properly, and the motherboard speaker beeps at me (telling me something is wrong). ANY advice will be graciously accepted.

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Ok, I have the Athlon 64 FX-51 with the MSI K8T Master2-FAR. I have one gigabyte of REGISTERED Memory (Corsair), 500W Power Supply, 120GB Seagate SATA HDD, DVD, DVD-RW, FDD, & 250MB Zip Drive. Everything is (as far as I know) installed properly, but when I try to power it up, it doesn't start up. Nothing will come on the screen, but the fans spin properly, and the motherboard speaker beeps at me (telling me something is wrong). ANY advice will be graciously accepted.
Wow, that sounds like a killer system. I have not had a lot of experience with this motherboard, so my ideas here are going to be pretty general. The speaker beep is a POST message: the number and length of beeps should correspond to the failed check when starting your computer. You'll want to check in the mobo manual for a chart of post beeps and the associated failures.
Otherwise, you can check your video card to see if it is working. Make sure it is firmly seated in the AGP slot, and make sure you have supplied the additional power connector (needed for most high end graphics cards). Also, try removing one DIMM (stick of memory) and see if it boots that way and try moving around the remaining DIMM if it still wont boot.
Similar problems often occur when your system does not recognize or support the RAM at SPD settings (or whatever you set them to last). Clear the CMOS and restart if you have changed the settings yourself (this will put them back to the defaults). If you have not changed the memory timings, you could try booting up with other memory modules, and then swapping them out after you have gotten the system to boot (this might be difficult since you need to find registered modules).
More information would be helpful... post the current over your PSU drive rails. Just saying that it is 500W is not enough.
As long as your CPU fans are moving, you shouldn't be damaging anything by trying different things. However, when you stop and restart your system, always wait for a little while for the power in your PSU to dissipate (you should hear a "PZZT" sound). Otherwise, if you keep starting and restarting your computer, you may blow something up.
Good luck!
-Angler

Mixing Memory Speeds

Apologies, wrong thread, please ignore.
Message was edited by: Rhys Bethell

Hi Rhys,
i think what you are talking about is mixing memory size, not speed. You can not mix memory speeds, especially in Macs.
You can mix memory size in most Macs. Very few Macs use memory interleaving that requires exactly the same size memory modules to work best. The iMacs allow mixing size with no impact on performance.
Go ahead, Crucial is very good with Macs and can be trusted.
Also very good is Other World Computing (OWC).
Ralph

A505 S6033 / Memory Speed Mixing

Good Day,
I have a Satellite A505-S6033 i7 720QM @ 1.6GHz Part Number: PSAT9U-006002 OS/Win7 Ultimate HDD/500GB Memory/6GB [Originally 4GB (DDR3-1066/PC3-8500) only].
I removed one 2GB(DDR3-1066/PC3-8500) memory in the 2nd slot and upgraded the memory with a 4GB(DDR3-1333/PC3-10600) and it is working normally. But I noticed the fan is now running intermittently or continuously even if I am not playing games or using applications with high memory usage.
Is mixing a higher memory speed going to cause the fan to run intermittently or continuously to prevent overheating, freezing or auto shut down problems?
Thanks in advance for any advice to my query.

Been doing some more testing and playing around with the A505 and confirmed that my netbook with an Intel® Atom™ Processor N4501 (1.66GHz, 677MHz FSB, 512KB L2 Cache) responds faster in many situations such as start button load time, explorer populating the folder list and things of the like.
So i'm confused about the 1.6GHz A505 vs. 1.66GHz netbook. Are they in fact equal for typical tasks? I guess I was expecting something outrageous with the A505 and I too was mistaken by the 2.8GHz in the ad.
I have til thurs before my 14 day return is up. Wondering if a faster i3 processor like 2.12GHz would be quicker or an i5 without the turbo boost. I dont game.
Satellite A505-S6033 [PSAT9U-006002] Intel® Core™ i7-720QM
6MB L3 cache / 1.6GHz - 2.8GHz / 64-bit Windows 7 Home Premium [BIOS 1.30, 04/14/2010]

Memory speed of fx 5200 cards

I can't find out detailed spec of MSI's fx 5200 cards:
- does any of these have 64-bit memory interface (as some 5200 cards do)?
- what is speed of cpu and memory
For instance, what's difference between FX5200-TD64 and FX5200-T64? First one has dvi out, cooler fan and larger board, but that's not what interests me - I would like to know differences in cpu and memory speeds.
Some benchmark numbers would be nice too, at least 3D Mark 2001.

I'm looking for budget card and I know what I can expect from that. You're right, memory speeds are not crucial here.
However, some fx 5200 have 64-bit memory interface (I know for some Gainward cards) which makes HUGE difference, even for low budget cards. Difference is something like 3500 vs 7000 points in 3D Mark 2001.
I would be satisfied with normal 5200 performance (I'm upgrading from MX400), but not with cripled one (64-bit), and I don't know whether FX5200-TD64 and FX5200-T64 have 64 or 128 bit memory bus.
Regards,
Dejan

Memory speed - Equium A200 PSAF5E

Hi all,
I own a Toshiba Equium A200 - 1V0
Model no. PSAF5E - 001003sp
Bios version updated to v. 2.50
Everest Ultimate 4.5.1330 says that I have 2GB of RAM, in two sticks of Samsumg DDR2-667. Also it says too that my FSB is 133Mhz with correct CPU speed and multipier.
The problem comes with memory speed. It shows DDR2-667 capable sticks and chipset, but DRAM:FSB ratio is set to 8:4 resulting in DDR2-533, in any energy profile. The system operates in dual-channel 128bit configuration, so I'm losing 2144 MB/sec of transfer speed.
The chipset is identified as an Intel Crestline GML GL960, Everest and Toshiba website show it as DDR2-667 capable, Intel website claims about DDR2-533.
Link:[http://uk.computers.toshiba-europe.com/innovation/jsp/SUPPORTSECTION/discontinuedProductPage.do?service=UK&com.broadvis ion.session.new=Yes&PRODUCT_ID=138201]
Link:[http://www.intel.com/products/notebook/chipsets/gl960/gl960-overview.htm]
I haven't found any motherboard info or manual, so here are my questions:
- Is this speed normal or may I expect the DDR2-667 mode with this system?
- Is the dual-channel mode decreasing memory speed?
- If I re-install memory modules one by one and changing the position, Could it reset the speed values of the system?
- Can I access to any hidden BIOS settings to tweak the memory? (I have a Medion system that has a hidden and password protected BIOS mode accessible through F11 instead of F2 where I can find lots of options not shown in normal F2 BIOS)
- Any more ideas?
Many thanks in advance. Any help would be much apreciated.

Hi HiperGrover,
As PauPau wrote, the limited FSB is 533 MHz and that means the memory modules will run at this speed. Furthermore DDR2-667 modules can be used properly but they run only with lower speed.
So don be worry about this, everything is ok with your notebook.
Last but not least in BIOS there are no options about tweaking the modules and such options will not bring a strong performance boost but they could make your computer unstable.

Memory speed 5900 XT

Why I can't overclock the memory clock of my GFX 5900XT at more than 740Mhz...
When the card memory is set at more than 740Mhz some triangles appear in the screen while 3Dmark 03 or some games are running.
What i need.... a better power supply or something else? or this is the higher memory speed of this card.

Well it's likely not the power supply. It's likely to be heat or more likely to be a limitation of the actual RAM or GPU.
It's just like overclocking a CPU, no two are alike, some overclock better than others depending on the yield during production.
Check to make sure you have good case airflow, also check the heatsink (if you are comfortable with delicate equipment) and make sure there is enough thermal paste on the GPU consider getting RAM sinks.
You could try pointing a house fan directly at the card with the side cover of the case removed and see if that improves anything. If you notice, you get a little farther, then you know it's heat related.
I would try that to determing if it's heat before you spend money on a power supply. However, it's always a good investment to have a better power supply as it's what powers your rig and can also kill it if it's not of good quality or pushed too far.

Memory Speed loss with CPU upgrade 2.6 - 3.0

I have a n 875P Neo board with 2 banks 512m DDR400
I have just upgraded my cpu from 2.6G (800 FSB) to 3.0G (800FSB)
My BIOS is ver 1.8 (8/9/ 2003)
I have found that my memory speed timings have dropped by 30% since the upgrade. Will I get better results if I update my bios to ver 2.0 (the latest bios)??
Sysoft Sandra Memory Benchmark shows to memory timings to be about 25% lower than expected
Can anyone help??
Thanks
M Miller

The 875P Neo and 865PE Neo2 boards are kissing cousins They have a lot in common.
It would help if you create a signature and put all your hardware information in it. Things like what type of video card and what type of ram all have an impact on what performance modes you can operate under. See the Rules at the top for what to include and how to do it.
You should also read P4 Neo Unofficial Guide and Moan Guide.

Memory speed in CCC

hi, i have 2x msi r4870x2 cards in crossfire.
what im wondering is that in CCC it says that the memory speed is at 900mhz but in the spec for the card its way higher.
is everything as it should or is there anything i should do to make the cards go at spec speed?
dont like fiddeling to much since i dont wanna ruin anything

That's suppose to be 900MHz means 3600 effective, since memory used is GDDR5, which works at ratio 1:4{not 1:2 like any prevision till now}, R4870X2-T2D2G-OC:
Take for example R4870-T2D512-OC which also use GDDR5, but its single card{not X2 like yours}, rated mem. freq. is 4000, but real one is 1000MHz. http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=prodvgaspec&maincat_no=130&cat2_no=137&cat3_no=&prod_no=1509#menu

Memory Speed (MHz) missing in 'About This Mac'

Hi
I'm using a Macbook Pro with 10.4.9 and all updates and I recently noticed that the memory speed is missing in the 'About This Mac' window.
It's saying: Memory 1GB 0 MHz RAM.
Am I the only one with this problem or is this a bug?

Please search the discussions before posting, as this topic has already been covered:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=4489699

Memory Speed Wrong In Cpu-z I have ddr533

Sorry for the double post didnt mean to do that
WELL I finally got my better memory to see how far I can push my prescott but only thing is my memory speed is showing up as pc3200 in cpu-z I am running in dual channel and yes I do have one in each slot (1 and 3). Can any one help on this issuse and what setting do I set it to in the bios auto?any help would be great. and what would be good timings for this memory.

UnderTheSun,
I can run 3-4-3-7 with SPD set manually with PAT=normal(Disable) and read the same on CPUZ using Bios 3.6, are you always get 3-4-4-8 wiht SPD setting manually?
I dont have this problem with FSB above 250 mHz (testing with CC I can reach FSB 261 mHz)
On what FSB did you have CAS set to 2.5 on Bios, since even I set it manually on bios with CAS value 2.5 the CPUZ is always read 3 with PAT=normal(disable).
Funny thing with this mobo CAS value always set to 2.5 if I turn PAT=Fast (Fast, Turbo and Ultra Turbo always have the same memory speed using memtest86+) and the bad things is I loose the CAS value 3 in Bios so I need to reflash the bios.
I cannot change the CAS value to 2.5 with this mobo as shown on the following link,
http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.html?i=1867
I would like to try OCZ PC3700 Rev.2 EL Gold Edition which in my opinion working best with this 'P' series regarding DOT and manual OCing as shown in the following link,
http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.html?i=1940
According to OCZ office this DDR is discontinued so I need to find it on the online store and hope can get it.
So finally I think we need to wait for the newer bios of the 'P' series.
Casing Tt Xaser III Skull
M/B 865 PE Neo-2 PFS Platinum Edition Bios Ver.3.6
CPU:P4 2.4C (HT enable) and ThermalTake SubZero 4G
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Memory: Corsair Twinx XMS 4000 pro 2x512 meg (dual-channel dimm 1 and 3).
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