Mensajes EDI atraves de SAP
Estimados amigos:
hay una empresa europea que me ha hecho esta consulta respecto al SAP quisiera saber a que se refiere que son los mensajes EDI en SAP y si SAP BO puede enviar dichos mensajes y como???
Slds
JESUS
QASAC
Hola
Entiendo que NO aplica con SAP BO, se tendrian que ajustar los planos generados por EDI para cargar a SAP BO.
Electrónic Data Interchange por sus siglas en Inglés es un estándar mundial de comercio electrónico que nos indica los documentoso transacciones electrónicas globales que podemos estar intercambiando con nuestros clientes, proveedores, etc., que al entrar en un proyectode EDI, se convierten en socios de negocio.
Estos documentos o transacciones electrónica fueron desarrollados hace más de 20 años por la ONU. Actualmente dentro de EDI existen dos grandes que son:
u2022ANSI X-12 (Estados unidos)
u2022EDIFACT (Europa)
Ambos manejan muchas transacciones electrónica, pedidos, avisos de pagos, facturas, reportes de ventas etc. El propósito inicial de EDI es la reducción de costos, eliminación de errores, agilización de los procesos. La comunicación electrónica de sistema a sistema con la mínima intervención humana para automatizar los procesos, sin importar las aplicaciones de cada cliente, ya que no será necesario que sean las mismas, es decir una empresapodrá tener su sistema empresarial (ERP), como puede ser SAP R/3, BAAN, BPCS, etc. y con EDI ellos se pueden estar intercomunicando
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Data transfer using EDI from one SAP system to other SAP system
Dear all,
I understand that i should use normal ale-idoc features to transfer data from one sap to other sap system.
but can i transfer those idocs using EDI from one SAP to other SAP systemHello,
surely you can do so.
EDI means that you transfer data in standardized EDI-formats. To get the data at the source into that formats you normally use an EDI-Converter, which maps the IDOC-format into the EDI-format. Then you send the data in EDI-format to an EDI-converter at the target. There's the reverse mapping. You map the EDI-Format into IDOC-format and book these IDOCs into SAP.
I think this makes only sense if you cross organizational borders within the business process, e.g., if you define an exchange with many customers, but not all of them have an SAP-system.
Regards Wolfgang
Edited by: Wolfgang Valtin on May 19, 2009 6:13 PM -
Replacing EDI subsystem with SAP XI
Hi Everyone,
I have a scenario in place where i want to replace the EDI subsystem with SAP XI.
I know that using Content Master is one of the solution but i have also heard that Content Master is having some license issues. Now after Content Master what is the next best solution for parsing the EDIFACT and X12 format files.
Thanks and Regards
Rahul NawaleHi Rahul,
SAP Conversion Agent by Itemfield is a data conversion system that enables you to create interfaces between any data formats and XML-based systems. The Conversion Agent can convert unstructured, semi-structured, and structured formats to XML, and the other way around.
Have a look at these links:
/people/william.li/blog/2006/03/17/how-to-get-started-using-conversion-agent-from-itemfield
/people/paul.medaille/blog/2005/11/17/more-on-the-sap-conversion-agent-by-itemfield
http://www.stylusstudio.com/edi/XML_to_X12.html
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/b0b355ae-0501-0010-3b83-8f2bb566fa47
Seeburger EDI Adapter provides an EDI solution on internet via HTTP or AS2 to replace the expensive VAN. It provides some pre-built mappings for IDOC to ANSI X12(810,850,855,856 etc.,) and Idoc to EDIFACT(ORDERS,DESADV,INVOIC etc.,) and has the ability to build your own. These pre-defined mappings transform the IDOC-XML to EDI-XML format.
These transformed EDI-XML messages are then converted to EDI specific format using the Seeburger's BIC(Business Integration Converter)adapter. In addition, Seeburger provides adapters like AS2,FTP(EDI specific) and so on to route these EDI messages to external EDI Partners.
For more i would suggest you to go through these links:
http://www.seeburger.it/fileadmin/it/pdf/2005_04_sapphire_Ferrero_transcript.pdf
http://www.seeburger.com/fileadmin/com/pdf/Butler_Group_SEEBURGER_Technology_Audit.pdf
http://www.seeburger.com/fileadmin/com/pdf/AS2_General_Overview.pdf
Seeburger EDI Adapter leverages SAP XI's Adapter Framework. This Adapter is used to perform conversion between EDI and XML format. It also provides some canned EDI layouts and the ability to build your own. It is used to transfer the EDI message via HTTP or AS2 protocols.
The most direct way of using the Seeburger adapters is to configure the BIC as a module. There is a software component from seeburger called bicmapper which will allow you to do the following:
1. define or import the inbound message metadefinition in various formats ( edifact, xml,...)
2. using a mapping create an xml variant as the output metadefinition or edifact in the other direction.
3. create a one to one mapping between input en output.
4. export the metadata in xsd or sda format for import in XI.
5. generate an SDA which can be deployed in XI and used as a module.
Please go through the following links which clearly explains what you want and it also helps you in understanding the same in depth:
http://www.seeburger.com
http://www.seeburger.it/fileadmin/it/pdf/2005_04_sapphire_Ferrero_transcript.pdf
http://www.seeburger.com/fileadmin/com/pdf/Butler_Group_SEEBURGER_Technology_Audit.pdf
http://www.sap.com/france/company/events/2006/02-01-Automotive-Seeburger.pdf
http://h41123.www4.hp.com/presentations/ISUG/XISeeBurger.ppt
http://www.sap.com/asia/company/events/nwtechdays/presentation/australia-slides/Pre-Built_Integration.pdf
There are also a few ways to use EDI with the ALE system of R3.
inbound EDI to R3
1.use a 3rd party adapter for the EDI protocol(eg.SEEBURDER) from the EDI system,send the produced XML to the XI ,map the xml message to a matching IDoc using the IDoc adapter.
outbound ALE message from R3 to EDI system
1. Configure the ALE system to point to the XI the relevant IDoc (SM59,WE21,WE20...)
2.use a file adapter3rd party EDI adapter and map the fields to the target structure.
have a look at this example:
http://www.ean.se/EANCOM%202000/iftmin/example.htm
Details on how to configure can be found on SDN
I hope this helps....
Regards,
Abhy -
Hi all,
Is is possible to map EDI messages to SAP iDocs using Oracle Integration?
ThanksYes, OracleAS Integration has several components. One is called Integration B2B, which allow you to send and receive EDI messages. You can then pass this on either using Integration InterConnect or BPEL Process Manager to the SAP adapter which can talk to SAP systems using e.g. iDocs.
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Hi,
Could anyone please explain me as to how we could verify that the data in SAP system matches with the EDI subsystem. Is there a transaction to verify the content of the data in SAP is same as that in EDI.
Many Thanks, SR.There is no transaction for such global comparison. You can compare the data in EDI system and SAP item by item. For example, if you use EDI to send purchase orders, then you could get a list of POs in EDI and then run a query for them in SAP.
If you use IDocs, you can see the IDocs in WE05 transaction and also compare tto EDI one by one. There is no magical transaction to compare "everything" to "everything". -
What are the different Electronic Data Interchange (EDI) formats available for SAP B1?With complete details.
hi,
please check the ff.
http://www.di-international.com/Solutions/SAP-Integration.aspx?gclid=CJic7Pat4K0CFU4b6wodlU3J4A
http://www.dicentral.com/sap_edi/
http://www.highjump.com/solutions/truecommerce/business-system-plugins/sap-business-one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KhBs2Sh7Pg
regards,
Fidel -
Hello,
I am having trouble understanding how a 997 inbound into SAP would be reflected in the system (we are receiving a 997 from the vendor based on a PO we send out)
1. Where would the 997 be reflected in the PO? Would this be a new confirmation category under the 'Confirmation' tab?
2. What basic idoc type/message type would be used?
Thanks for the help!!Hello Tiffanie
The EDI 997 message is a functional acknowledgment which corresponds to an acknowledgement IDoc in SAP. This acknowledgment is reflected in the EDI/ALE status of the outbound IDoc.
Example:
I created a purchase order and sent it as outbound ORDERS.ORDERS05 IDoc (no = 414840).
For this outbound IDoc I created an inbound ALEAUD IDoc. Processing the acknowledgement IDoc (WE19, inbound fm IDOC_INPUT_ALEAUD) Idoc 414840 received an additional status 41 = Application document created in target system.
To be honest I do not know whether this IDoc acknowlegement is somehow reflected in the original purchase order but I doubt this is the case.
The ALEAUD01 IDoc looked like this:
Header E1ADHDR:
MESTYP ORDERS
MESTYP_LNG ORDERS05
Status E1STATE:
DOCNUM 0000000000414840
STATUS 53
STATXT DOCUMENT PROCESSED SUCCESSFULLY IN APPLICATION
STAMQU SAP
STAMID IDOC_ADPAPTER
STAMNO 000
Regards
Uwe -
EDI Format in SAP without Gentran Subsystem
Hello,
Our customer currently use Gentran to generate the EDI Formats, and then send it to the WebSphere broker. They do not want to use the Gentran subsystem anymore, and ask if there is a solution in sap for creating this EDI Formats directly. I investigated that SAP does not supply the EDI subsystem for several reasons, so i have to give the customer a valid reason if this is not possible. Also i would like to know if it is possible to send directly the Idocs to the Broker and convert it to the EDI Format there .Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks.Hi Francisco,
I am not aware about Gentran system. But i can give you some information related to EDI format with help of PI
You can send or receive EDI files via PI with Seeburger insertion.
Seeburger is used to convert XML to EDI or EDI to XML.
For example I am sending an IDOC from SAP system and want an EDI file in third party system. for this scenario you have to use PI with seeburger. SAP IDOC ->PI->Seeburger->EDI file (third party)
In PI you have to create 1:1 mapping to convert IDOC to EDI XML and this EDI XML is send to seeburger to create EDI file.
There are many standard EDI mappings available in seeburger. You can check all the maping from there.
I hope this answer will help you.
Regards,
Shradha -
Hello Experts,
I know that EDI transmission method can be used for PO output from SRM, but not sure how this is achieved, is it done via XML/XI and can some one throw some light on this process and the pain points to achieve this.
My currenct implementation is SRM 5.0, ECC 5.0, ECS.
Thanks,
CSHi CS,
You need to collect the data on the XML fields that are output as default for the SRM PO.
Then you need to map these XML fields to the EDI standard fields (could be EDIFACT or ANSI or..) in the EDI middleware.
I think XI may not be required in this scenario.
Most of the XML PO fields will find a counterpart in the EDI standard. But, you need to really get the details and analyse. secondly, you need to find ways to transmit the custom fields, if any, in the PO.
Cheers,
Akash -
[SAP XI] EDI orders posting job to SAP R/3
Hi everyone!
I would like to know if SAP XI has the capability to directly post EDI orders in SAP R/3 wherein IDocs are placed. If yes, how? (Please describe the process in detail)
In normal EDI implementation (AI, 3rd party translator used), batchjobs are created to be able to post EDI orders. The AI/3rd party translator are sending the IDocs after conversion from customer format order file to the specified UNIX directory in SAP and batchjobs will post these as EDI orders that can be viewed in WE02/WE05.
In SAP XI direct connection case, all IDocs received are automatically posted in SAP R/3 without having a batchjob executing this. However, orders are not successfully posted as there is an authorization issue** (user/system/technology posting EDI orders are not allowed to create an EDI order) so we need to determine which user/system/technology are executing the job (posting of IDocs to an EDI order).
Please advise. Thank you very much!
FredHi,
U can do the send EDI data into SAP using third party tool or adapter(Seeburger) or by using the conversion agant.
U need to have the XSD for the EDI structure and EDI data should be flat file.
Check some links on Conversionagant and Seeburger.
/people/bla.suranyi/blog/2006/06/08/sap-xi-supports-edifact
http://www.seeburger.it/fileadmin/it/pdf/2005_04_sapphire_Ferrero_transcript.pdf
http://www.seeburger.com/fileadmin/com/pdf/Butler_Group_SEEBURGER_Technology_Audit.pdf
http://www.seeburger.com/fileadmin/com/pdf/AS2_General_Overview.pdf
SAP Adapters
EDI with XI
http://www.seeburger.com
http://www.seeburger.com/fileadmin/com/pdf/AS2_General_Overview.pdf
http://www.seeburger.it/fileadmin/it/pdf/2005_04_sapphire_Ferrero_transcript.pdf
http://www.seeburger.com/fileadmin/com/pdf/SEEBURGER_SAP_Adapter_engl.pdf
http://www.seeburger.com/fileadmin/com/pdf/Butler_Group_SEEBURGER_Technology_Audit.pdf
http://www.sap.com/france/company/events/2006/02-01-Automotive-Seeburger.pdf
http://h41123.www4.hp.com/presentations/ISUG/XISeeBurger.ppt
http://www.sap.com/asia/company/events/nwtechdays/presentation/australia-slides/Pre-Built_Integration.pdf
http://www.seeburger.com
http://www.seeburger.it/fileadmin/it/pdf/2005_04_sapphire_Ferrero_transcript.pdf
http://www.seeburger.com/fileadmin/com/pdf/Butler_Group_SEEBURGER_Technology_Audit.pdf
http://www.sap.com/france/company/events/2006/02-01-Automotive-Seeburger.pdf
http://h41123.www4.hp.com/presentations/ISUG/XISeeBurger.ppt
http://www.seeburger.com/fileadmin/com/pdf/AS2_General_Overview.pdf
http://www.seeburger.it/fileadmin/it/pdf/2005_04_sapphire_Ferrero_transcript.pdf
http://www.seeburger.com/fileadmin/com/pdf/SEEBURGER_SAP_Adapter_engl.pdf
http://www.seeburger.com/fileadmin/com/pdf/Butler_Group_SEEBURGER_Technology_Audit.pdf
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/43/6d95e0ac846fcbe10000000a1553f6/CMGetStart.pdf
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/43/4c38c4cf105f85e10000000a1553f6/content.htm
/people/paul.medaille/blog/2005/11/17/more-on-the-sap-conversion-agent-by-itemfield
/people/alexander.bundschuh/blog/2006/03/14/integrate-sap-conversion-agent-by-itemfield-with-sap-xi
/people/paul.medaille/blog/2005/11/18/conversion-agent-a-free-lunch
/people/william.li/blog/2006/03/17/how-to-get-started-using-conversion-agent-from-itemfield
Regards,
Phani
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Comm channels between edi siebel subsystems to sap r/3
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wojtek -
Hi All,
I have to send EDI 857 Information from SAP. Could you please let me know which IDOC should i use to achieve the functionality. I appreciate if anybody can send me the mapping document of EDI 857 from SAP.
Thank You,
SureshHi,
I have to send the Shipment/Billing Information and the triggering point is When we save the Shipment of the Delivery.. I am using SHPMNT03 IDOC for Shipment Details.. I am thinking of extending the SHPMNT03 IDOC for getting the billing details. Is this the right way for sending the Shipment/Billing Information to EDI 857 ?
Thank You,
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Integrate SAP to another program by EDI message
I would like to integrate data between SAP and another application by using EDI concept (any SAP module). Is EDI congifuration / idoc in SAP standard ? or I have to integrate an EDI module to my current SAP module first ?
Voradanu,
I would like to integrate data between SAP and another application by using EDI concept (any SAP module).
I assume that when you say "EDI concept", you mean one of the various Electronic Data Interchange standards (e.g. EDIFACT, X.12, etc.). Within SAP ERP there is no "EDI Module". SAP does not provide EDI translators. If you want to output data using one of these EDI standards, you will probably have to purchase a third party EDI translator.
Do SAP EDI configuration / idoc are SAP standard ?
I am not sure what this means. As I said before, SAP ERP does not support EDI. However, SAP does provide IDOCs (Intermediate documents) for virtually any data export or import need. SAP has standard IDOCs, and they are also extensible, in that if the standards do not meet your requirements, you can create customized IDOCs.
or I have to integrate an EDI module to my current SAP module first ?
I am not sure what that means. Just about all SAP modules support export/import of IDOCs. Outgoing IDOCs in turn can be sent to an EDI Translator, where additional processing can be done, prior to creating the EDI message and transmitting to a partner. Likewise, you can use your EDI translator to receive EDI messages, perform additional processing, and then pass the results to SAP IDOC input processing.
Best Regards,
DB49 -
Step by step SAP EDI Configuration
Hi,
Can you please shar step by step SAP EDI Configuration deatils.
Regards,
Nitin PatilHi
Seeburger EDI Adapter leverages SAP XI's Adapter Framework. This Adapter is used to perform conversion between EDI and XML format. It also provides some canned EDI layouts and the ability to build your own. It is used to transfer the EDI message via HTTP or AS2 protocols.
The most direct way of using the Seeburger adapters is to configure the BIC as a module. There is a software component from seeburger called bicmapper which will allow you to do the following:
1. define or import the inbound message metadefinition in various formats ( edifact, xml,...)
2. using a mapping create an xml variant as the output metadefinition or edifact in the other direction.
3. create a one to one mapping between input en output.
4. export the metadata in xsd or sda format for import in XI
5. generate an SDA which can be deployed in XI and used as a module.
Please go through the following links which clearly explains what you want and it also helps you in understanding the same in depth:
http://www.seeburger.com
http://www.seeburger.it/fileadmin/it/pdf/2005_04_sapphire_Ferrero_transcript.pdf
http://www.seeburger.com/fileadmin/com/pdf/SEEBURGER_SAP_Adapter_engl.pdf
http://www.seeburger.com/fileadmin/com/pdf/Butler_Group_SEEBURGER_Technology_Audit.pdf
http://www.sap.com/france/company/events/2006/02-01-Automotive-Seeburger.pdf
http://h41123.www4.hp.com/presentations/ISUG/XISeeBurger.ppt
http://www.sap.com/asia/company/events/nwtechdays/presentation/australia-slides/Pre-Built_Integration.pdf
Integrating XI with SeeBurger
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/6dc02f5d-0601-0010-cd9d-f4ff9a7e8c33
Thoughts on EDI in an SAP XI Environment
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/135b0b94-0701-0010-f6a9-86a14057544a
regards,
Kishore -
Hello Experts,
We are having a scenario wherein our customer sends JIT and Forecast schedules which we update to already created scheduling agreements. The customer sends these details through EDI and we are using DELJIT.DELFOR01 to update the scheduling agreement.
Now for EDI, i guess SAP allows only 1 scheduling agreement at a time. However we are having scenario where we create a new scheduling agreement before the earlier gets complete (typically overalapping scenario) and customer can send the schedules with dates later than the current scheduling agreement.
The requirement is such extended schedule lines should be updated to new agreement while the rest should be updated to the current one.
If anyone faced such issue let me know.
Thanks in advance.
regards
rajeevHi Praveen,
we could always create a Z-function module. however thats lot of work and lot of customization. i am looking for a solution which would just be an enhancement to the existing funtionality (maybe some user-exit or enhancement or any configuration change).
regards
rajeev
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