Menu background - chapter image missing

Hi everyone,
here is a recurring problem with my DVD menus in PrE9, I set an image in the background of my main menu, and the same image in the chapters menu, and for some reason, the system never keeps in memory the chapter image,and displays the default background of the template. Any idea why ?

There were several Menu Sets in PrE 9, that would not properly take the changed images.
Several users Opened the Menu Sets in PS, or PSE, and added their Images there. If I were doing that, I would Save the custom Menu Sets (along with PNG images for the Create Menus Library thumbnails) into a new folder, in the same area, say Entertainment. This would not overwrite the Library Menu Sets, even if some are not working properly.
There are several threads, from the fairly recent past, that go into a lot more detail on exactly which Menu Sets were problematic, and also discuss customizing Menu Sets in PS, or PSE.
Good luck,
Hunt

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