Merom CPU Compatibility & Technical Question

I read that Intel demonstrated that the upcoming Merom chip was drop-in compatible with the current Core Duo chips. Because the current systems' CPU is soldered to the motherboard I understand that current systems will not be upgradable. My question is timing of their release based on hardware engineering. This question is for the engineers out there.
What other issues would need to be addressed from a hardware perspective in the changeover to the Merom chip? Are there reasons why Apple would not simply drop in the new chips once they start shipping? Do they need to change things for heat management (do the chips run hotter or cooler)? Do they need to update any of the supporting chipsets in order to start shipping Merom systems? Have there been any other reports of competitors' approaches to this chip change?

There's no reason they won't just drop them in, its like the PC world which I live in, if its the same socket, just drop it in and if it needs a bios update, update it and you got pretty much a new computer.
as I understand from the Core 2 Duo Line up, its basically an entirely new internal architecture. where as the current core duo is based on the Pentium M, which is really fast already..
not sure about consumption though

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Not that it was ever very effective. But, better than nothing.
I'm beginning to see a number of posts with questions and responses that don't belong here, but in the appropriate forum (to which they haven't yet been moved.) I would like to see this forum still reserved for discussions or doesn't-fit-elsewhere feedback only.
I'm seeing one post with replies, which is almost a day old; it hasn't been moved.
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It would have been over the top if I had been in any way scolding, but my remarks and tone were far from that.
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