Message font in mail

Soorry to have to ask this, it seems pretty obvious but I can't figure it out.
How can I change the size of the font of messages I receive in mail? Going to prefs/Fonts&colors only lets me change the size of the header and message list. There must be a simple solution....
Thanks

Hello Richard.
There is no default selection in Mail to do so for messages received that were composed in HTML. This only applies to messages received that were composed in RTF or Plain Text.
You can add a Bigger/Smaller selection to the message toolbar for making all message text bigger or smaller and for messages received that were composed in HTML, at the menu bar go to View > Message and select Plain Text Alternative.

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first portion was my text, and I see no HTML tags to define font. After that comes my signature, which is heavily formatted and contains default font, so my recipients see it exactly how I want.
But what about message text? How can I define it to be displayed upon arrival to my recipients' mailboxes in exactly that font I need?

If I understand your request...
MIME-encoded mail clients will usually send both plain text (or base64-encoded plain text) or rich text (or probably base64-encoded rich text, but I haven't seen that) and also as HTML, and an arbitrary mail client might display the text or might display the HTML. And then there's whether the HTML will be rendered the same, and that's far from certain.
HTML moved various parts of the viewing and rendering details from the perview of the provider or the presenter or author along to the viewer. This is a large shift from what went before, and from what the expectations of the producers were. Fonts were one of those details that moved to the client, too. Not all fonts exist everywhere, and font fallback and font overrides are common. I regularly override the sizes of some messages, and various clients allow that and allow overriding the font choice for one that's more readable. (This change gets into trusting the HTML reader to configure their client for what they prefer, and sometimes for what they can see and read.)
Put another way, the viewer can and will select local fonts and font sizes and such, and may or may not honor the sender's requested fonts.
Formatted HTML itself — such as the Apple Mail.app stationery — is somewhat problematic in general, as client rendering differs. Apple's stationery works well among Apple clients, but can be rendered differently with other clients.
ad for your case, I've been able to set the sending font — brute-force ⌘A in the text area — by changing the font within the compose window. But whether an arbitrary mail client can or will honor that is an open question.
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Add a signature to your email account with whatever font you want. Two steps...like this.
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Message was edited by: AlasdairThomason
Message was edited by: AlasdairThomason

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