Message Type & IDOC Assignment

Hi,
Please tell me the reason (logic) of assigning message type to idoc type using two different transactions, i.e. WE82 and BD69. In both transactions we do the same steps.
Regards,
Shabbar

Hi,
Thanks for all your replies. But I'm trying to figure out why we need to make entries in both transactions. As, I've read in more than one documents on SAP ALE configuration about making entries in both transactions.
Still I'm confused because both seems similar and we making same entries in both.
Regards,
Shabbar

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Pls check the below links
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Message was edited by: henry

Hi Henry,
About your question as how should you assign seperate process code for the same message type ( with different IDoc Type )-
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hi,
>>>>I am trying to maintain distribution model in XI,
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Good Morning.
We use the SAP Standard Program RC1_IDOC_SET_STATUS to convert the status of Idocs. Recently, we had encountered a behavior which we havent come across before.
The selection screen has the IDOC number, the message type, the current status and the new status. There is an additional trial run checkbox as well.
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