Messages, Facetime, iChat and Video Conferencing

We are using 10.7 and a colleague is using 10.8.  Facetime only seems to allow two people to video conference.  ichat allows at least four.  I am told in Messages in 10.8 beta, selecting video opens Facetime (with only two video users.)
1)  With 10.8, is there going to be the capability for more than two to video conference?
2)  Is iChat being replaced by Messages?

Hi,
If you had Buddy list with iChat before you had Messages then it will do the same Video Chats iChat did.
For Mac to Mac (AIM to AIM or Jabber to Jabber) this can be up to 4 people including yourself.
At the Text Chat Level an "Account" is added to the list in Messages menu > Preferences Accounts.
This uses an Apple ID.
If you open New Messages then you can select Contacts (Address Book List) and text chat to them
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Those on iPhone (Phone Numbers or Apple IDs) and iPads (generally Apple IDs) and certain Touches can then be iMessaged.
(As the pic says you can also access the Buddies in the iChat style Buddy lists (rather than display the Buddy lists) and Text chat to them.
At the next stage, as it were, the Blue Icon has become a Video icon.
For iMessages contacts this starts up FaceTime.
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FaceTime is the Video Chat option in iOS 5 devices and is limited by the processors on iOS devices and only does 1-1 chats.
There is however Version on your Mac in Lion so that you can either do 1-1 contact with other Macs and/or Video chats to Phones and iPads.
So...
Your Mac with Messages and the fomer iChat Buddy Lists can do up to 4 way Video chats with the Buddies in those Lists - with the proviso that they are logged in to the same Service.
Messages also adds in Texting iMessages to your Address  Book Contacts using either iPhone Numbers (only iPhones - not other phones) or their Apple ID  (does include some iPads that also have SIM cards)
These Contacts can be FaceTimed which can be activated from within Messages
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    After years of owning all things Mac, I am finally trying to use iChat, and can't get it to work. I am using gmail, and I see my buddy (no camera icon next to her name), but all I can do is send a message--the video and audio chat icons are gray, as is inviting to a video chat under Buddies. My buddy has the same problem as I.  We are able to do video chat through gmail, but I had hoped to use iChat.  I am using OS 10.6.8, iChat v. 5.0.3.  What am I missing?

    HI,
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    However it will not Video to the Web Page login to iGoogle or the Web Mail Page login.  (where people can Google Chat as it were in a  Web Browser).
    Nor does it video to the Google Talk Stand alone app for PCs or any other Jabber apps on any platform.
    iChat uses a connection Process called SIP (Session Initiation Protocol) which is also used by other VoIP devices.
    Jabber/XMPP invited the Jingle Protocol for Jabber Applications.
    Google have included this in their Standalone app and the Plug-in for Web Browsers on both PCs and Mac (you can get this as a Standalone Plug-in or as part of Chrome)
    More on this here  This article has been changed several time in the recent months.  It now claims a greater involvement by Google in writing the Jingle Library (Although now Google's version does not work with the others)
    This tends to mean that using the web Login to Google to Chat also cannot video chat to other Jabber apps that are using Jingle.
    If your Buddy is using iChat then check the Video Menu has two items to Enable Camera/Video chat and Microphone/Audio chats are ticked.
    In the View Menu the Show Status Items should be ticked (Selecting them toggles the tick and the function On or Off)
    It could be Internet speed but at this stage I would doubt this at this stage.
    10:27 PM      Saturday; January 21, 2012
    Please, if posting Logs, do not post any Log info after the line "Binary Images for iChat"
      iMac 2.5Ghz 5i 2011 (Lion 10.7.2)
     G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
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     Mac OS X (10.6.8),
    "Limit the Logs to the Bits above Binary Images."  No, Seriously

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