Messages "Operation timed out" when connecting to gchat

anyone else having this problem?  Is it a bug? All my other chat accounts are connecting, but for some reason I can't get my google buddies!

HI,
Did your Googletalk account work in iChat ?
If this is a new account in Messages that you have not used before then check that you have entered the account the same way it is spelt when you visit Google's web mail page. (it makes a difference if you have an @googlemail.com or @gmail.com account).
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