Messed up HDV exporting in FCP

Hi!
I use FCP 5.1 to capture HDV1080i50 from a Canon XH A1. When I try to export using Quicktime conversion and HDV1080i50 the image gets messed up. I have no idea why, anybody know? If I open the original HDV file in Quicktime and export using the same settings, the exported version is fine..
Thanks for your help!
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What QT conversion are you trying to get to?
Why not try exporting from the timeline to Compressor and making your conversion there.
Good Luck
Z1

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