Messed up my catalog

I went into windows explorer and moved and renamed many of my files not realizing what it would do to my catalog. Now many files missing or unaccessable. anyone have any suggestions on how I might fix my mess?

I am on a Mac so it might be slightly differennt
Go to the File menu and select Reconnect, then click on All Missing Files
follow the prompts to point the files to the new location

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Or am I just too dense to understand an easy, quick solution to dealing with ONLY the Jpegs, resizing them for quick and view-only upload to a gallery, and retaining the integrity of the Elements organizer.???????
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