MetaData in file not shown in Illustrator cs6 file info panel

I have a command line application that puts meta-data into files. It was created using the 5.1.2 xmp toolkit. The metadata is in the file. I can see it if I just use TextEdit to look at the file. I can also see the custom metadata in the Illustrator CS5 File Info Panel AND the Photoshop CS6 File Info Panel. The information doesn't show up in the Illustrator CS6 file info panel. Any clue why?

The files I am testing with are .jpg's. They ultimately need to be opened with Illustrator which is why I posted. I only tested with Photoshop to see what would happen and was pretty surprised to see the data there. Like I said, it works in CS5 Illustrator, CS6 Photoshop, but the data just doesn't show up in the CS6 Illustrator (in the advanced nor the raw tab), and when I view the .jpg with textedit the data is difinitely there. Pretty weird.

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Thanks! If there is a workaround or simple solution, I would be very glad if you could inform me.
Christian
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Am 14.05.2012 um 13:49 schrieb FrankBiederich:
Re: Bridge CS6 Mac XMP File Info Panel Bug: can't copy and paste metadata
created by FrankBiederich in XMP SDK - View the full discussion
Thanks for your report; we'll look into it.
Frank
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XMP data not showing up in the custom file info panels when upgraded to CC

For several versions of Photoshop, I have been able to use a modified custom file info panel to input, update, and track psd files. With each version of photoshop there are always some changes in the way the object data is handled. The lastest challenge is:
1. XMP data not showing up in the custom file info panels when upgraded CC from CS6.
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alanterra wrote:
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alanterra wrote:
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Help. Not a photoshop guy but rather a genealogist. Many years ago downloaded a custom file info panel for photoshop which I used to enter meta text about the family photos I scanned. Currently using adobe creative cloud but cant figure out how to use panel or see most of my metatext last few version. Below is information about the panel. All I really want to do is install my panel and get back to genealogy. I apologize but not sure I need to understand the basics of photoshop..
john weis
[email protected]
This is the authors description of the panel:
Genealogy Photo (Private Collection) Custom File Info Panel 1.0 for Photoshop. 11 FEB 2007
Developed by Ron Reiger [email protected]
Please contact me to suggest improvements.
1. BASIS FOR THIS CUSTOM FILE INFO PANEL
2. DESCRIPTION OF EACH PROPERTY NAME
3. WHERE EACH PROPERTY NAME MAPS & OTHER NOTES
4. WHERE TO INSTALL THE CUSTOM FILE INFO PANEL
1. BASIS FOR THIS CUSTOM FILE INFO PANEL
The Custom File Info Panel is used to capture metadata about a genealogy/family history photo that is privately held (that is, the photo is not in the possession of a library). The metadata property names on the File Info Panel are based on my interpretation of the recommended primary citation for a photograph (private possession) (annotated, with provenance) as described on page 95 of Elizabeth Shown Mill's "Evidence! Citation & Analysis for the Family Historian" and on my interpretation of recommended primary citation for an Electronic File (Image from Private Files - Annotated), Mills, "Citation!", page 81. I added a few more property names for location and date the photo was taken and keywords (to ID people by number rather than by name), the name of the person who provided the description, a surety for their description, and an informal description. Each field is discussed below.
2. DESCRIPTION OF EACH PROPERTY NAME
Date Scanned: This is the date the photo was scanned. Date is populated by Photoshop and is not editable.
Provider: The owner of the photo as of the date it was scanned. A researcher in a future generations will know who had the photo at a particular point in time.
Provenance: Describe as best you can how the photo got from the person in the photo to the Provider.
Description Provided By: List the person who identified the people and location in the image.
Description Surety: (This is an open text field. You can use any surety rating system you want.) Describe or rate the quality of the Description of the image's people and location. Note any uncertainties regarding any particular people in the photo.
Complete Subject Description: List the full name of each individual in the image, in order. You may want to list the location and date of the image even though there are separate property names for that data.
Informal Subject Description: An optional non-genealogical description of the image, perhaps for using the photo outside of genealogy. Example Informal Subject Description: "Grandpa as a young man."
Media Description: Describe the paper photo you scanned. Dimensions, border, frame, damage, etc. Your ancestors will have an easier time finding the paper photo later if you describe it well!
Annotations: Copy any annotations on the front or back of the photo and frame. Transcribe any photographer embossing/imprint; this is a clue for dating/locating photos.
Special Editing/Alterations: Describe any restoration you performed on the digital image. Did you correct for the lateral reverse of a tintype or daguerreotype?
City/County: List the City/County where the image was taken.
State: List the State where the image was taken.
Country: List the County where the image was taken.
Photo Date: List the date the image was taken.
Keywords: This is the standard keyword entry. Commas or semicolons can be used to separate keywords. I type the TMG ID number of each person in the photo here so I can search for all photos of the person without typing their name.
3. WHERE EACH PROPERTY NAME MAPS & OTHER NOTES
I have not created a working namespace URI or rdf ala http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/ for this panel. I have not created localization dictionary files for this panel. Data entered into the panel will appear in Adobe Bridge. As you can see below I re-used lots of pre-existing property names and dumped all my new property names into the photoshop namespace. I don't know if this approach has drawbacks.
Date Scanned:                xmp_path: 'CreateDate'   Pre-existing property name
Provider:    xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'Credit'    Pre-existing property name
Provenance:    xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'Provenance'
Description Provided By: xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'DescriptionProvidedBy' Pre-existing property name
Description Surety:   xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'DescriptionSurety'
Complete Subject Description:   xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'Description'   Pre-existing property name
Informal Subject Description: xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'Caption'   Pre-existing property name
Media Description:   xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'MediaDescription'
Annotations:     xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'Annotations'
Special Editing/Alterations: xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'SpecialEditing'
City/County:    xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'City'    Pre-existing property name
State:     xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'State'    Pre-existing property name
Country:     xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'Country'   Pre-existing property name
Photo Date:    xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'DateCreated'   Pre-existing property name
Keywords:               xmp_path: 'Keywords'   Pre-existing property name
4. WHERE TO INSTALL THE CUSTOM FILE INFO PANEL
I have tested this panel with Photoshop CS2 and Adobe Bridge CS2 only. It may not work on earlier versions. FWIW a malformed Custom File Info Panel will fail to load in File Info; it won't crash Photoshop.
The following was taken from "XMP Custom Panels," Adobe, Oct 2003.
Each time an Adobe application opens the File Info dialog, it scans all the files in these directories and appends them to the file list. If more than one of the description files has
the same panel name, the one found in the last file to be loaded is added, and others are ignored.
Changes to the contents of the directories do not require you to reload an application; changes are automatically reflected in the dialog the next time it is opened.
The panel description and localization dictionary files must reside in the following locations for use with Adobe Creative Suite applications:
Mac OS X
{Root Volume}/Library/Application Support/Adobe/XMP/Custom File Info Panels
{Home Directory}/Library/Application/Adobe/XMP/Custom File Info Panels
Windows
\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\XMP\Custom File Info Panels
\Documents and Settings\<user>\Application Data\Adobe\XMP\Custom File Info Panels
The panel description and localization dictionary files must reside in the following locations for use with Adobe Acrobat 7.0 or 6.0:
Mac OS X
{Root Volume}/Library/Application Support/Adobe/Custom File Info Panels
{Home Directory}/Library/Preferences/Adobe/Custom File Info Panels
Windows
\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\\Custom File Info Panels
\Documents and Settings\<user>\Application Data\Adobe\Custom File Info Panels
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<?xml version="1.0">
<!DOCTYPE panel SYSTEM "http://ns.adobe.com/custompanels/1.0">
<panel title="$$$/CustomPanels/Acro/PanelName=Gen Photo (Private Collection)" version="1" type="custom_panel">
group(placement: place_column, spacing: gLargeSpace, horizontal: align_fill, vertical: align_top)
group(placement: place_row, spacing: gSpace, horizontal: align_fill, vertical: align_top, reverse: rtl_aware)
static_text(name: '$$$/AWS/FileInfoLib/Panels/Description/DateCreated=Date Scanned:', font: font_small_bold_right, vertical: align_top);
date_static_text(fbname: '$$$/AWS/FileInfoLib/Panels/Description/DateCreated=Date Scanned', name: '$$$/AWS/FileInfoLib/Panels/DateCreated=Created', xmp_path: 'CreateDate', horizontal: align_fill, vertical: align_top, truncate: true, locked: true);
group(placement: place_row, spacing: gSpace, horizontal: align_fill, vertical: align_top, reverse: rtl_aware)
static_text(name: '$$$/CustomPanels/Genealogy/Provider=Provider:', font: font_small_bold_right, vertical: align_top);
edit_text(fbname: '$$$/CustomPanels/Genealogy/Provider=Provider', horizontal: align_fill, font: font_small, xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'Credit', vertical: align_top);
mru_popup(xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'Credit', container_type: alt_struct, no_check: true, vertical: align_top);
group(placement: place_row, spacing: gSpace, horizontal: align_fill, vertical: align_top, reverse: rtl_aware)
static_text(name: '$$$/CustomPanels/Genealogy/Provenance=Provenance:', font: font_small_bold_right, vertical: align_top);
edit_text(fbname: '$$$/CustomPanels/Genealogy/Provenance=Provenance', horizontal: align_fill, height: gTextViewHeight, xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'Provenance', container_type: alt_struct, v_scroller: true);
mru_popup(xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'Provenance', container_type: alt_struct, no_check: true, vertical: align_top);
group(placement: place_row, spacing: gSpace, horizontal: align_fill, vertical: align_top, reverse: rtl_aware)
static_text( name: '$$$/CustomPanels/Genealogy/DescriptionProvidedBy=Description Provided By:', font: font_small_bold_right, vertical: align_top);
edit_text(fbname: '$$$/CustomPanels/Genealogy/DescriptionProvidedBy=Description Provided By', horizontal: align_fill, font: font_small, xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'DescriptionProvidedBy', vertical: align_top);
mru_popup(xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'DescriptionProvidedBy', container_type: alt_struct, no_check: true, vertical: align_top);
group(placement: place_row, spacing: gSpace, horizontal: align_fill, vertical: align_top, reverse: rtl_aware)
static_text( name: '$$$/CustomPanels/Genealogy/DescriptionSurety=Description Surety:', font: font_small_bold_right, vertical: align_top);
edit_text(fbname: '$$$/CustomPanels/Genealogy/DescriptionSurety=Description Surety', horizontal: align_fill, height: gTextViewHeight, xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'DescriptionSurety', v_scroller: true);
mru_popup(xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'DescriptionSurety', container_type: alt_struct, no_check: true, vertical: align_top);
group(placement: place_row, spacing: gSpace, horizontal: align_fill, vertical: align_top, reverse: rtl_aware)
static_text(name: '$$$/CustomPanels/Genealogy/Description=Complete Subject Description:', font: font_small_bold_right, vertical: align_top);
edit_text(fbname: '$$$/CustomPanels/Genealogy/Description=Complete Subject Description', horizontal: align_fill, height: gTextViewHeight, xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'Description', container_type: alt_struct, v_scroller: true);
mru_popup(xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'Description', container_type: alt_struct, no_check: true, vertical: align_top);
group(placement: place_row, spacing: gSpace, horizontal: align_fill, vertical: align_top, reverse: rtl_aware)
static_text( name: '$$$/CustomPanels/Genealogy/Caption=Informal Subject Description:', font: font_small_bold_right, vertical: align_top);
edit_text(fbname: '$$$/CustomPanels/Genealogy/Caption=Informal Subject Description', horizontal: align_fill, height: gTextViewHeight, xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'Caption', v_scroller: true);
mru_popup(xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'Caption', container_type: alt_struct, no_check: true, vertical: align_top);
group(placement: place_row, spacing: gSpace, horizontal: align_fill, vertical: align_top, reverse: rtl_aware)
static_text( name: '$$$/CustomPanels/Genealogy/MediaDescription=Media Description:', font: font_small_bold_right, vertical: align_top);
edit_text(fbname: '$$$/CustomPanels/Genealogy/MediaDescription=Media Description', horizontal: align_fill, height: gTextViewHeight, xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'MediaDescription', v_scroller: true);
mru_popup(xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'MediaDescription', container_type: alt_struct, no_check: true, vertical: align_top);
group(placement: place_row, spacing: gSpace, horizontal: align_fill, vertical: align_top, reverse: rtl_aware)
static_text( name: '$$$/CustomPanels/Genealogy/Annotations=Annotations:', font: font_small_bold_right, vertical: align_top);
edit_text(fbname: '$$$/CustomPanels/Genealogy/Annotations=Annotations', horizontal: align_fill, height: gTextViewHeight, xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'Annotations', v_scroller: true);
mru_popup(xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'Annotations', container_type: alt_struct, no_check: true, vertical: align_top);
group(placement: place_row, spacing: gSpace, horizontal: align_fill, vertical: align_top, reverse: rtl_aware)
static_text( name: '$$$/CustomPanels/Genealogy/SpecialEditing=Special Editing/Alterations:', font: font_small_bold_right, vertical: align_top);
edit_text(fbname: '$$$/CustomPanels/Genealogy/SpecialEditing=Special Editing/Alterations', horizontal: align_fill, height: gTextViewHeight, xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'SpecialEditing', v_scroller: true);
mru_popup(xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'SpecialEditing', container_type: alt_struct, no_check: true, vertical: align_top);
group(placement: place_row, spacing: gSpace, horizontal: align_fill, vertical: align_top, reverse: rtl_aware)
static_text( name: '$$$/CustomPanels/Genealogy/City=City/County:', font: font_small_bold_right, vertical: align_top);
edit_text(fbname: '$$$/CustomPanels/Genealogy/City=City/County', horizontal: align_fill, font: font_small, xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'City', vertical: align_top);
mru_popup(xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'City', container_type: alt_struct, no_check: true, vertical: align_top);
group(placement: place_row, spacing: gSpace, horizontal: align_fill, vertical: align_top, reverse: rtl_aware)
static_text( name: '$$$/CustomPanels/Genealogy/State=State:', font: font_small_bold_right, vertical: align_top);
edit_text(fbname: '$$$/CustomPanels/Genealogy/State=State', horizontal: align_fill, font: font_small, xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'State', vertical: align_top);
mru_popup(xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'State', container_type: alt_struct, no_check: true, vertical: align_top);
group(placement: place_row, spacing: gSpace, horizontal: align_fill, vertical: align_top, reverse: rtl_aware)
static_text( name: '$$$/CustomPanels/Genealogy/Country=Country:', font: font_small_bold_right, vertical: align_top);
edit_text(fbname: '$$$/CustomPanels/Genealogy/Country=Country', horizontal: align_fill, font: font_small, xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'Country', vertical: align_top);
mru_popup(xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'Country', container_type: alt_struct, no_check: true, vertical: align_top);
group(placement: place_row, spacing: gSpace, horizontal: align_fill, vertical: align_top, reverse: rtl_aware)
static_text( name: '$$$/CustomPanels/Genealogy/PhotoDate=Photo Date:', font: font_small_bold_right, vertical: align_top);
edit_text(fbname: '$$$/CustomPanels/Genealogy/PhotoDate=Photo Date', horizontal: align_fill, font: font_small, xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'DateCreated', vertical: align_top);
mru_popup(xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'DateCreated', container_type: alt_struct, no_check: true, vertical: align_top);
group(placement: place_row, spacing: gSpace, horizontal: align_fill, vertical: align_top, reverse: rtl_aware)
static_text( name: '$$$/AWS/FileInfoLib/Panels/Description/Keywords=Keywords:',font: font_small_bold_right, vertical: align_top);
cat_container_edit_text(fbname: '$$$/AWS/FileInfoLib/Panels/Description/Keywords=Keywords',horizontal: align_fill, height: gTextViewHeight, xmp_path: 'Keywords', container_type: bag_struct, v_scroller: true);
mru_popup(xmp_path: 'Keywords', container_type: alt_struct, no_check: true, vertical: align_top);
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You are not going to be able to run your old system from the backup on this old computer as the hardware is incompatible.
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Custom File Info Panel CS2- CS4

I have a Custom File Info Panel that has been created in Adobe Photoshop CS2 and works in CS3. I am having trouble figuring out how to get it to work in CS4. Is there a way to port the Custom File Info Panel into CS4 without entirely recreating it?
I am seeing references to FileInfo SDK and creating a new Flex UI but I can't seem to find a definitive method on this pre-CS4 File Info Panel to the new UI - and I am in unfamiliar territory.
Any assistance or points in the proper direction would be most helpful.
UPDATE: Answering at least some of my own questions, I have followed the procedure here:
http://blogs.adobe.com/gunar/2008/11/customizing_metadata_ui_in_cs4.html
I am still having some trouble with a couple of the unique properties but I expect that they will be typos... I hope...
Any good reference information is still welcome.

Thank you for suggesting the PS Scripting forum but I think the next stop might be the XMP SDK Forum as there are a few similar questions there such as http://forums.adobe.com/thread/540397. But before I go impolitely cross-posting...
I've had some success and it appears that my custom file info metadata edited and saved in CS2 is now visible in CS4 and the reverse is also true - metadata edited and saved in CS4 is visible in CS2. This was built using the Generic Panel from the SDK according to the instructions shown at the link in my original post.
The only problem is that the external application that relies on the custom metadata doesn't see the CS4 version of the metadata. I suspect that this is just some general namespace issue. Perhaps if an XMP expert would be willing to comment on the conversion of the Custom Info Panel based on the following single portion of the metadata to see if I am doing it correctly - I would very much appreciate it.
In the CS2 Custom Info Panel XML I have this field:
<panel title="$$$/CustomPanels/XYZ/PanelName=XYZCorp Graphics MetaData" version="1" type="custom_panel">
group(placement: place_row, spacing: gSpace, horizontal: align_fill, vertical: align_top, reverse: rtl_aware)
static_text(name: '$$$/CustomPanels/XYZ/fullName=Full Name/Title of Graphic', font: font_big_right, vertical: align_center);
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</panel>
In my CS4 properties.xml the corresponding field:
<xmp_definitions xmlns:ui="http://ns.adobe.com/xmp/fileinfo/ui/">
<xmp_schema prefix="custom" namespace="xyzcorp" label="$$$/Custom/Schema/Label=XYZCorp Graphics MetaData" description="$$$/Custom/Schema/Description=CS4 Version of XYZCorp MetaData Custom Panel.">

<xmp_property name="FullName" category="external" label="$$$/Custom/Property/FullName_Label=Full Name/Title of Graphic:" type="seq" element_type="text"/>

<ui:separator/>
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</xmp_definitions>
It seems that the following CS2 => CS4 translations should be true:
"xmp_namespace" => xmp_schema namespace property (in this case "xyzcorp")
"xmp_path" => xmp_property name property (for this one property, "FullName")
is there another translation that I am missing? I am betting it has something to do with the CS2 "xmp_ns_prefix" but I am not entirely sure how to map this. Also perhaps something in manifest.xml (though it didn't seem like it)?
Many thank you's to anyone that can offer words of wisdom.
j

Custom File Info panels from PS into LR

I have a large number of Custom File Info panels created for use within Photoshop that are imperative to our workflow of different departments. These Metadata strings are later read by Extensis Portfolio as our DAM tool of choice.
I don't see to be able to find where to change this other than making minor tweaks to existing Metadata presets. Any clues hmmm? Ta

alanterra wrote:
there is no way to get the data in the original into the derived copy except by doing it by hand
Better ways:
1-1 or 1-many:
(on the file menu: plugin extras) which brings up:
If you want to do "many to many-others-like-them", you have to use a different plugin, like Relative Antics..
alanterra wrote:
If I understand it correctly, "Custom File Info panels" for xmp data should just solve this problem.
Many of us are hoping Adobe enhances Lr to provide better support for custom metadata - as you've noticed, Lightroom is not one of those "Standard Adobe Applications" referred to in the above link.
Rob

Custom File Info Panels Doc Available !!

Documentation for creating your own custom file info panels is available at:
http://www.adobe.com/products/xmp/custompanel.html
I'm interested in hearing your feedback!
The custom File Info panel for XMP metadata allows you to define, create, and manage custom metadata properties using standard Adobe applications. You can do this by creating a Custom Panel Description file, and placing it in a common location referenced by Adobe applications that support this feature. You can also supply localization dictionary files to localize the contents of your Custom Panel Description files. The resulting custom dialog panel is seen by users when they select the File Info menu option.
The File Info panel allows you to support paths to metadata properties which are not defined in default or other standard XMP schemas, but are needed for your application, company, or industry. By using XMP for that metadata, you take advantage of the potential of XMP for interchange and participation in asset management systems, while providing the ability to use standard Adobe applications to manage it.

Mark,
The PDF/A extension schema provides a big step to the self-sufficient functionality that you are asking about. It permits the XMP schema description information of custom XMP schemas to be embedded into the XMP as payload so that the file can be opened in years to come and the target metadata acurately interperted. Currently, PDF tools are active candidate to make use of this facility. However, there is nothing preventing future use with other file formats, and other tools (via plug-ins?).
It does not include vocabulary, static text, and panel presentation layout information.
http://www.pdfa.org/doku.php
It defines a "known" subset of standard XMP properties from the 2001 XMP Spec. Everything else is "custom".
You could craft a custom File Info "template" with the PDF/A extension for your custom XMP fields. Then import the template into each file.
The PDF/A extension schema itself is implemented with multi-dimensional XMP arrays. MetaGrove Plug-in dialog screen shots can be viewed on http://www.poundhillsoftware.net/Acrobat.htm
Regards,
Carl Rambert

Is there a date entry widget for XMP custom file info panels?

Looking through the Custom File Info Panels documentation, the samples, and the default info panels presented in Photoshop, I can't find any reference to a date entry widget - the closest I've seen is the date_static_text widget.
Is there any way to present an editable, validating date entry field to our end-users through the File Info panel?
(the info we're wanting to store is a release date so it's user-specified, and not derivable from the file in any way)

Mark,
The PDF/A extension schema provides a big step to the self-sufficient functionality that you are asking about. It permits the XMP schema description information of custom XMP schemas to be embedded into the XMP as payload so that the file can be opened in years to come and the target metadata acurately interperted. Currently, PDF tools are active candidate to make use of this facility. However, there is nothing preventing future use with other file formats, and other tools (via plug-ins?).
It does not include vocabulary, static text, and panel presentation layout information.
http://www.pdfa.org/doku.php
It defines a "known" subset of standard XMP properties from the 2001 XMP Spec. Everything else is "custom".
You could craft a custom File Info "template" with the PDF/A extension for your custom XMP fields. Then import the template into each file.
The PDF/A extension schema itself is implemented with multi-dimensional XMP arrays. MetaGrove Plug-in dialog screen shots can be viewed on http://www.poundhillsoftware.net/Acrobat.htm
Regards,
Carl Rambert

File Info panels in Lightroom.

Hello, everybody.
My workflow involves the use of Photoshop, Bridge and more recently I decided to make Lightroom part of it also. As described in Martin Evening's "The Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 2 Book" I am trying to use Bridge as a front end for Lightroom and think that both applications really complement each other well.
Now, to my questions:
1. I am trying to find the File Info panels in Lightroom that can also be accessed in Photoshop and Bridge. I must have missed the obvious but I haven't been able to find it. Could you point me in the right direction ?
2. Where is the keyword catalog for Lightroom located ? What is the proper syntax for this file ? Is there an application I can use that will allow me to create my own keyword catalog that can then be imported into Lightroom ? Last but not least, can Lightroom have more than one catalog installed ? What about Bridge ? Can it also have more than one keyword catalog installed ?
Thanks,
Joe

Those panels are specific to Bridge, Photoshop and other Adobe suite apps. Sadly, they don't exist in LR. Instead, use the Metadata panel.
LR's keywords are stored inside the LR catalogue - there is no "keyword catalog for Lightroom" concept. You can import a list of keywords using the Metadata > Import Keywords command. This list will be a txt file which you can prepare in any text editor or in Excel. To see the format, add a few keywords in Lightroom, and create a txt file using the Metadata > Export Keywords command. Then just edit this file, or copy its format - eg indenting child keywords.
Fr now, if you are asking questions like these, I would recommend sticking to one tool, a single Lightroom catalogue, for entering your metadata. Until you find your feet, using more than one tool will only make work for yourself and will result in inconsistencies. Also, treat yourself to a copy of Peter Krogh's DAM Book (his forum is good for metadata workflow issues).
John

XMP Custom File Info Panels

I've downloaded the new XMP Custom File Info Panels software. I installed the sample xmp panel descripter files in the proper location. Is it possible to view the customized metadata on a computer that doesn't have the descripter files? I hope the descriptor files get imbedded in the image with the customized xmp metadata.
-Mark Thiessen

Mark,
The PDF/A extension schema provides a big step to the self-sufficient functionality that you are asking about. It permits the XMP schema description information of custom XMP schemas to be embedded into the XMP as payload so that the file can be opened in years to come and the target metadata acurately interperted. Currently, PDF tools are active candidate to make use of this facility. However, there is nothing preventing future use with other file formats, and other tools (via plug-ins?).
It does not include vocabulary, static text, and panel presentation layout information.
http://www.pdfa.org/doku.php
It defines a "known" subset of standard XMP properties from the 2001 XMP Spec. Everything else is "custom".
You could craft a custom File Info "template" with the PDF/A extension for your custom XMP fields. Then import the template into each file.
The PDF/A extension schema itself is implemented with multi-dimensional XMP arrays. MetaGrove Plug-in dialog screen shots can be viewed on http://www.poundhillsoftware.net/Acrobat.htm
Regards,
Carl Rambert

Custom File Info-panel stays empty

Hi all!
I want to create my first custom File Info panel and I have trouble with it.
I use either a sample from the XMP-FileInfo-SDK-5.1 (e.g. "BasicControlSamplePanel") or even the "Generic" tool for simple XMP based panels.
I use Photoshop CS4 (on Mac OS X 10.6.4) and so I copy the panels to "~/Library/Application Support/Adobe/XMP/Custom File Info Panels/2.0/".
Now I look with Photoshop and I see the tab for the new panel but the content is empty...
Of course I did no modifications on the samples for my first try.
Any clues what's wrong here? I guess it may be a simple error because even the sample does not work...
TIA,
H.Sup
PS. I did also a test on Win XPwith the same result.

To answer my own question:
The documentation really sucks.
I found this reply from Adobe <http://forums.adobe.com/message/2540890#2540890>
usually we recommend to install custom panels into the "user" location at:
WINDOWS XP: C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\Adobe\XMP\Custom File Info Panels\2.0\panels\
WINDOWS VISTA: C\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\XMP\Custom File Info Panels\2.0\panels\
MAC OS: /user/username/Application Data/Adobe/XMP/Custom File Info Panels/2.0/panels/
The reason why your panels did not work properly was a missing Flash trust file for that user location. Without such a trust file the embedded flash player refuses to "play" your custom panel.
Please see section "Trust files for custom panels" in the XMPFileInfo SDK Programmer's Guide on page 50 for all details on how to create such trust files.
After many wasted hours I have now the simple panels running.
Cheers,
H.Sup

Custom File Info Panel Multi select options

Hi,
I have created a custom file info panel and working on simple properties.
it does not have options for provisioning a multi select list box. Say for example, I want to select multiple values from the dropdown values.
How should i do it? Any help is much appreciated.
Thanks,
Sriram

Hi,
Following is my sample property file. I want to make the property "Line Year" to be multiselect.
<xmp_definitions>
</xmp_schema prefix='x' namespace='x....'
                  <xmp_property name='LineYear' category='external' label='Line Year' type='closedchoice' element_type='text'>
                                <xmp_choice raw_value="2007" label="2007"/>
                                <xmp_choice raw_value="2008" label="2008"/>
                                <xmp_choice raw_value="2009" label="2009"/>
                </xmp_property>
    </xmp_schema>
</xmp_definitions>

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