Metadata without images??

I have been working to get rid of inconsistencies in applying metadata (CA vs. California, for example), and after changing all of the photos with CA to California, I discovered that there were still 14 occurances of CA, but there are no images to go with them. That is, in the Metadata Browser when I click on CA, there are no images in Grid View. Does anyone know how this might happen and what if anything can or needs to be done about it?

Well, the count never changed, so I decided to see what would happen if I imported the XMP metadata from the files. After a very very long time, the metadata from 12,000 files finished, and big surprise, There were now 650 images with CA rather than California. So I changed CA to California, and when it finished, the count for CA was still 650, but with no thumbnails in grid view.

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