Method fprint(String) is undefined for the type JspWriter.

please help me with this problem
below is the jsp code written to access the data from the database and to display it in the new page.
<%@ page
     import = "java.io.*"
     import = "java.lang.*"
     import = "java.sql.*"
%>
<%
     Connection dbconn=null;
     ResultSet results;
     PreparedStatement sql=null;
               String empid1=request.getParameter("empids");
          try
String driver = "com.mysql.jdbc.Driver";
          Class.forName(driver).newInstance();
               dbconn =DriverManager.getConnection("jdbc:mysql://localhost/hris","root","redhat");
               int empid11;
               empid11=Integer.parseInt(empid1);
               sql = dbconn.prepareStatement("select * from employee where empid=?");
               sql.setInt(1,empid11);
               results=sql.executeQuery();
               results.next();
out.print("<html>");
out.print("<head>");
out.print("</head>");
out.print("<body>");
out.print("<table width=810 border=0>");
out.print("<tr>");
out.print("<td width=210>");
out.print("Employee Id");
out.print("</td>");
out.print("<td width=584>");
int emp=results.getInt("empid");
out.print(emp);
out.print("</td>");
out.print("</tr>");
out.print("<tr>");
out.print("<td>");
out.print("FirstName");
out.print("</td>");
out.print("<td>");
String first=results.getString("fname");
out.print(first);
out.print("</td>");
out.fprint("</tr>");
          catch (SQLException s)
               out.println("SQL Error <br>"+s);
catch ( Exception x )
               x.printStackTrace();
%>
but when i click the submit button , the error is
type Exception report
message
description The server encountered an internal error () that prevented it from fulfilling this request.
exception
org.apache.jasper.JasperException: Unable to compile class for JSP
An error occurred at line: 9 in the jsp file: /HRIS/empsearch1.jsp
Generated servlet error:
The method fprint(String) is undefined for the type JspWriter
     org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServletWrapper.handleJspException(JspServletWrapper.java:510)
     org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServletWrapper.service(JspServletWrapper.java:375)
     org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.serviceJspFile(JspServlet.java:314)
     org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.service(JspServlet.java:264)
     javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:802)
root cause
org.apache.jasper.JasperException: Unable to compile class for JSP
An error occurred at line: 9 in the jsp file: /HRIS/empsearch1.jsp
Generated servlet error:
The method fprint(String) is undefined for the type JspWriter
     org.apache.jasper.compiler.DefaultErrorHandler.javacError(DefaultErrorHandler.java:84)
     org.apache.jasper.compiler.ErrorDispatcher.javacError(ErrorDispatcher.java:328)
     org.apache.jasper.compiler.JDTCompiler.generateClass(JDTCompiler.java:409)
     org.apache.jasper.compiler.Compiler.compile(Compiler.java:297)
     org.apache.jasper.compiler.Compiler.compile(Compiler.java:276)
     org.apache.jasper.compiler.Compiler.compile(Compiler.java:264)
     org.apache.jasper.JspCompilationContext.compile(JspCompilationContext.java:563)
     org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServletWrapper.service(JspServletWrapper.java:303)
     org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.serviceJspFile(JspServlet.java:314)
     org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.service(JspServlet.java:264)
     javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:802)
note The full stack trace of the root cause is available in the Apache Tomcat/5.5.15 logs.
i am not able to rectify the error.

JavaB wrote:
Hi ,
I have a method defined in my dataManagerDAO classIs it dataManagerDAO or DataManagerDAO?
getNoc( strRppsId) throws Exception {}That's not a legal Java method declaration, so it's clearly not your actual declaration, so I have no idea what your actual declaration is, so I can't tell you what you're doing wrong.
Now I am calling this method inside my JSP page :
DataManagerDAO dataMgr = new DataManagerDAO();
dataMgr.getNoc(strRppsId)..
But whenver I am running it locally , it fails to compile and gives following error msg :
The method getNoc(String) is undefined for the type DataManagerDAOQuite obviously you're calling a method getNoc(String) but that method doesn't exist on the DataManagerDAO class. No matter how much you may think you know that it does, you're wrong and the compiler is right.
Maybe you misspelled or mis-capitalized something. Maybe you're passing the wrong type of argument. Maybe you're still using an older version of the DataManagerDAO class from before you added that method. Not enough information here to say for sure.
ny clue wats going wrong in here ?I assume you mean "any", not "ny" and "what's", not "wats". Clear, correct, precise communication counts with folks here almost as much as it does with the Java compiler.

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- Chip - regrettably due to the cost and unlikely successor anytime soon - a 39xx (with appropriate cooler) because I want to edit in native AVCHD which seems to require the warrior type chip as opposed to the "economical" build regardless of what my target audience is and this suggests
- X79 motherboard (which must have an old PCI slot such as the Asus Sabertooth and which has room for the cooler I'm considering). As I will be carrying over my old terretec DMX 6 fire 24/96 soundcard - all my videos have their audio mastered in Audition using this card - best piece of advice I read was the audience will watch a bad video with good sound editing but not the other way round)
- 4 hard drives plus additional hard drive for operating system using onboard raid controllers (not sure whether the operating system drive will be WD caviar black or SSD and can't justify cost of external raid controller for either my type of use or number of hard drives being used)
- Video card - I can now buy a GTX 580 for less than the 670 - so not sure on the card especially based on Harm Millards observations that memory bandwith seems to be as important as CUDA cores
- Case - I have an Akasa 62 case with room for 5 hard drives - I won't be exceeding that, and if I overclock it will only be by a little so is it really necessary to replace it for a Tower Case - although I would prefer a case with a front connection for esata so I may have to change the case regardless
- Maximum memory 32G - so is it necessary to upgrade to windows 7 professional?
- Power source - I'll work out when I've decided on my components.
Help please:
For me it's video source/dictated software chosen and hardware/audience(youtube) dictates format edited in. As I don't intend to change my camcorders format (AVCHD or mpeg) in the next couple of years and I'm not interested in having the "fastest" system around what I'm really interested in learning is:
what system setups people use now for doing similar editing to me
what make/models of the component parts in your system work well together
and if you do have a bottle neck in terms of hardware, where is it and what hardware would you change to (not a dream model change, just a practical and realistic one)
I have deliberately not given a budget for the changes I'm intending because budget should not be the deciding factor in determining what I "need" to upgrade to for the "type of editing I do" - especially bearing in mind I've got by so far (admitedly at a tortoise pace) with by todays standards a standard spec laptop. Basically I don't want a Rolls Royce to go shopping at Wallmart but I'm tired of walking there and carrying everything back by hand!
Thank you very much for any help / experiences people can share.

Thank you both for your prompt and helpful replies.
Mr Millaard, regarding your excellent article Planning and Building an NLE system, I have read it a couple of times now and it was your article which finally convinced me the time was now to upgrade but within it you said for good reason "Initial choice of CPU: i7-39xx with the intention to overclock to 4.6 - 4.8 GHz", hence my uncertainty about the CPU to use. I have seen a video you posted here - I think it was based on your cats (which I incidently enjoyed) so working on the editing done there (but not remembering if you mentioned what video format you used) and others who have mentioned many pro's for the i7-39xx I was leaning towards that - but I'm financially relieved at least - if the i3770 will do, although now with the possible recommendation by JEShort01 (sorry not sure of the forum etiquette for use of names) of the 2600K overclocked I'm a little bit back in the position of which is more suitable especially with the update to the i3770 being nearer than i7-39xx. This still makes me lean towards the i7-39xx.
Regarding the editing, the match play you can see on the channel is indeed 1 camera basic edits - multiple titles used to provide the score board. However, the coaching videos use mulitple cameras - 3 to 4 sometimes (another reason for upgrading to CS5.5 for the multi cam editing support) and the equipment testing video can use 3 or 4 tracks layered on top of each other other with each track having opacity settings and multiple motion effects and titles with occasional keying video effects added. For example this video at approx 2 mins 50 and 5 mins 10 seconds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1E5T7xo57c&list=PL577F7AB5E31FC5E9&index=13&feature=plpp_v ideo
Monitor wise I use dual monitor setup. My laptop screen and I link out to an LG M2394 D for widescreen and I sometimes use an old Neovo F-419 for 3 / 4 editing. I won't be using more monitors than 2. If the 580 drops a bit more I'll probably go for that - although I'll have to make sure it's size isn't an issue for the motherboard combo setup. Interestingly there is a thread shown on the forum home page which discusses the 570 vs the 660ti and the opinion was go with the 660ti which surprised me a bit.
Windows 7 professional it is then - I should have known that too - apologises for asking a question already asked.
"Accepted, your correct criticism of the lacking hardware info on the PPBM5 website. That is the overriding reason that for the new site http://ppbm7.com/ we want to use Piriform Speccy .xml results to gather more, more accurate and more detailed hardware info."
No criticism intended Mr Millaard - more an observation and I really look forward to that evolution with PPBM7. I'm assuming the .xml results will use pre populated drop down lists people can select their hardware from - that way you can control and ensure consistent entries - downside being the work required by you to populate the lists in the first place and maintain them.
Thanks again for your help but I'm still unsure a bit about the CPU and video card though.

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