Metrics inspector file info has too good of a memory for file names

Hi, I'm working on a technical manual in Pages 09. We decided we wanted to make sure the file names in the metrics inspector's file info section were descriptive of the images' content, as this would make it easier for us to find the original image file for localization. We want the same images, but different file names in the file info. I have not been able to achieve this, no matter what I try. If I delete the image and then insert the new image via drag and drop, Insert->Choose, or from the media browser, the file always has the same name (the original) even though that name is no longer associated in any way that I can see with the file I've just added to the document. Help! I'm going to have to recreate the entire document from scratch just to get the names in file info right! Any assistance would be very gratefully received!
Jennifer Marden
[email protected]

Jennifer
You are right.
It will switch for an entirely different file. But it remembers the name of even a duplicated and renamed file.
It even does it if you open in Preview.app and resave from there.
+However if you make a small edit in Preview, say rescale or slight crop and resave it, it will accept the new name.+
OSX has a very good tracking ability of files, they actually carry an identity number as well as the name, so that when you change its name and/or location it still can find it. This appears to be too persistent in Pages and I'd say is a bug.
Refreshing Permissions and verifying your Hard Drive or relocating the file to an external Hard Drive may trigger a refresh which may fix this.
Peter

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mru_popup(xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'Annotations', container_type: alt_struct, no_check: true, vertical: align_top);
group(placement: place_row, spacing: gSpace, horizontal: align_fill, vertical: align_top, reverse: rtl_aware)
static_text( name: '$$$/CustomPanels/Genealogy/SpecialEditing=Special Editing/Alterations:', font: font_small_bold_right, vertical: align_top);
edit_text(fbname: '$$$/CustomPanels/Genealogy/SpecialEditing=Special Editing/Alterations', horizontal: align_fill, height: gTextViewHeight, xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'SpecialEditing', v_scroller: true);
mru_popup(xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'SpecialEditing', container_type: alt_struct, no_check: true, vertical: align_top);
group(placement: place_row, spacing: gSpace, horizontal: align_fill, vertical: align_top, reverse: rtl_aware)
static_text( name: '$$$/CustomPanels/Genealogy/City=City/County:', font: font_small_bold_right, vertical: align_top);
edit_text(fbname: '$$$/CustomPanels/Genealogy/City=City/County', horizontal: align_fill, font: font_small, xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'City', vertical: align_top);
mru_popup(xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'City', container_type: alt_struct, no_check: true, vertical: align_top);
group(placement: place_row, spacing: gSpace, horizontal: align_fill, vertical: align_top, reverse: rtl_aware)
static_text( name: '$$$/CustomPanels/Genealogy/State=State:', font: font_small_bold_right, vertical: align_top);
edit_text(fbname: '$$$/CustomPanels/Genealogy/State=State', horizontal: align_fill, font: font_small, xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'State', vertical: align_top);
mru_popup(xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'State', container_type: alt_struct, no_check: true, vertical: align_top);
group(placement: place_row, spacing: gSpace, horizontal: align_fill, vertical: align_top, reverse: rtl_aware)
static_text( name: '$$$/CustomPanels/Genealogy/Country=Country:', font: font_small_bold_right, vertical: align_top);
edit_text(fbname: '$$$/CustomPanels/Genealogy/Country=Country', horizontal: align_fill, font: font_small, xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'Country', vertical: align_top);
mru_popup(xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'Country', container_type: alt_struct, no_check: true, vertical: align_top);
group(placement: place_row, spacing: gSpace, horizontal: align_fill, vertical: align_top, reverse: rtl_aware)
static_text( name: '$$$/CustomPanels/Genealogy/PhotoDate=Photo Date:', font: font_small_bold_right, vertical: align_top);
edit_text(fbname: '$$$/CustomPanels/Genealogy/PhotoDate=Photo Date', horizontal: align_fill, font: font_small, xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'DateCreated', vertical: align_top);
mru_popup(xmp_namespace: photoshop, xmp_path: 'DateCreated', container_type: alt_struct, no_check: true, vertical: align_top);
group(placement: place_row, spacing: gSpace, horizontal: align_fill, vertical: align_top, reverse: rtl_aware)
static_text( name: '$$$/AWS/FileInfoLib/Panels/Description/Keywords=Keywords:',font: font_small_bold_right, vertical: align_top);
cat_container_edit_text(fbname: '$$$/AWS/FileInfoLib/Panels/Description/Keywords=Keywords',horizontal: align_fill, height: gTextViewHeight, xmp_path: 'Keywords', container_type: bag_struct, v_scroller: true);
mru_popup(xmp_path: 'Keywords', container_type: alt_struct, no_check: true, vertical: align_top);
</panel>

You are not going to be able to run your old system from the backup on this old computer as the hardware is incompatible.
You need to get a new computer or a refurbished one.

File Info problems in Photoshop CC & CS5.1 on OS X 10.8

I have recently upgraded my Macs, running OS X Mountain Lion, from Photoshop CS5.1 to Photoshop CC for two reasons:
1. Because it most the most cost efficeint way to obtain the latest Camera Raw plugins that are no longer supported in CS5.1
2. Because I began experiencing issues on two Macs where initially only in Bridge, was I no longer able to input any File Info dialogue.
I make extensive use of File Info templates, which are then applied to batches of files in Bridge before individual files, or groups of files requiring the identical metadata are modified.
After a time, once the overall batch of File Info templates had been applied to files I discovered that I was unable to edit them further. Even after Repairing Permissions in Disk Utility it usually took a reboot to fix the problem, although the problem was always solved.
However there came a point a few weeks ago when I was unable write any further metadata to File Info, in Bridge or Photoshop, no matter what I did. Again this issue happened on two Macs so I'm guessing that it is not a machine issue.
As I needed the latest Camera RAW plugins as well I decided to upgrade to Photoshop CC, which I have to say I have been very pleased with - until now. The dreaded File Info problem has now occurred again, although currently only in Photoshop, not Bridge. When I try to add or modify any information in File Info in Photoshop CC the dialogue box just closes!
Clearly it is not just a Photoshop CC issue although I never had the problem prior to CS5.1 and I leapfrogged CS6 and I find it hard to believe that it is a machine issue. Could it be a conflict with the OS or with Extensis Suitcase Fusion 4?
Has anyone else encountered this problem?

Curt, Thanks for your rapid response.
To answer your questions. I thought that, initially, the problem might be a permissions problem but it occurs on both boot drives and also when the same files are copied to Firewire external drives - on both Macs, but different external drives in each case. I followed your link but there was nothing there that I didn't already know or hadn't already tried, thanks.
One computer is a 24" iMac and the other is a 15" MacBook Pro. I've also tried to replicate the problem on four PowerMac G5s running OS X 10.5.8 with Photoshop/Bridge CS4, with the same drives plugged in, but have experienced no problems at all. It's quite bizarre.
Also, looking deeper into the conundrum, I find that I can't input any numbers, only letters! Using the keyboard all numbers, whether on the main or auxiliary keypads, cause the File Info dialogue box to either jump to a new tab or close. Using Shift on the numbered keys works perfectly however!
It just goes on getting better...

Custom File Info Panel: Bridge Locks Up (trials, tribulations, woes)

o/ all!
So I've spent the better part of this morning trying (for what I think is the fifth time this year) to get a custom file info panel installed properly. I've managed to successfully install a generic panel with most of the properties that I'd like in the panel proper, however, I'm having no end of trouble publishing and installing the panels and having them display properly in Bridge CC (64-bit).
I've followed the instructions provided in the Programmer's Guide to the letter (yes, including the trust files), and I'm still having issues.
-- System Information --
OS: Windows 7 64-bit
Flash Builder 4.7 (64-bit)
Adobe Bridge CC (64-bit)
Right now, all I'm trying to do is:
Create the flash builder project for an XMP File Info Panel
Publish the file info panel
Confirm the file info panel was installed correctly in Adobe Bridge CC.
The process:
1. I create the new project in Flash Builder (I've attempted using the 4.6.0 and 3.6A flex SDKs).
Now, at this point, I'm simply attempting to confirm that everything is hunky-dory with the installation process before I start converting my generic panel into a flash/flex panel; so I'm not modifying any of the files that the wizard created.
2. Right-click the root project folder in the leftmost pane in Flash Builder, select XMP>Publish.
3. Locate the published panel's output directory that Flash Builder published to
4. Copy/paste the published panel's root directory to the following directories:
C:\Users\Erik\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\XMP\Custom File Info Panels\4.0\panels\
C:\Users\Erik\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\XMP\Custom File Info Panels\4.0\custom\
C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\XMP\Custom File Info Panels\4.0\panels\
C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\XMP\Custom File Info Panels\4.0\custom\
I put the panel definition in all of these folders as per various 'fixes' to what I think my issue is that I've discovered while google-troubleshooting.
5. Create a trust file in FlashPlayerTrust folder with the name testPanel36A.cfg (contents listed below):
C:\Users\Erik\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\XMP\Custom File Info Panels\4.0\panels\testPanel36a\bin\testPanel36a.swf
C:\Users\Erik\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\XMP\Custom File Info Panels\4.0\custom\testPanel36a\bin\testPanel36a.swf
C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\XMP\Custom File Info Panels\4.0\panels\testPanel36a\bin\testPanel36a.swf
C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\XMP\Custom File Info Panels\4.0\custom\testPanel36a\bin\testPanel36a.swf
As far as I know, I can put multiple paths in these .cfg files, but I'm not-at-all confident that this is, in fact, the case.
After all this, I fire up bridge, right click an image file, and select FileInfo. The dialog displays fine, and the panel tab appears on the right. Clicking on the panel reveals nothing but a gray area with no content, and Bridge locks up entirely. I can't cancel out of the dialog, and end up having to end the process from Task Manager.
My gut tells me that I'm doing something wrong with the trust files, as this seems like the issue that most closely resembles what I'm encountering. Secondarily, It may be the flex SDKs -- I only have the 4.6.0 and the 3.6A SDKs, and the link in the Flash Builder dialog takes me to the sourceforge page for Adobe, and from there, I cannot locate any additional older SDKs to try this with (I've seen posts around saying that people got their panels to work with 3.0, or 3.5).
Anyone have ANY insight on this? Seriously at my wits end -- I've tried everything but nothing seems to work . Many thanks,
.e

Hi The_Mumm,
     You need to correct content fo the .cfg file (hope your .cfg file is at correct directory i.e. C:\Documents and Settings\<user name>\AppData\Roaming\Macromedia\Flash Player\#Security\FlashPlayerTrust). Yes, I agree that you have followed the documentation and put the path upto .swf file.
    Could you please modify the content of the trust file, with the below content (you path have been modified)
C:\Users\Erik\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\XMP\Custom File Info Panels\4.0\panels\testPanel36a\bin\
C:\Users\Erik\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\XMP\Custom File Info Panels\4.0\custom\testPanel36a\bin\
C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\XMP\Custom File Info Panels\4.0\panels\testPanel36a\bin\
C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\XMP\Custom File Info Panels\4.0\custom\testPanel36a\bin\
Hope everything will work now. If it doesn't work, please put only one path in trust file e.g. "C:\Users\Erik\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\XMP\Custom File Info Panels\4.0\panels" and put the publish panel in this folder.
One more precaution, don't copy, if required move the custom panel from one place to other.
Please let me know if you still faces any issue. Enjoy you new year.
For your reference, I am following the following steps and everything is working fine
1. Open the Fb7,
2. file->new->project
3. in the new project wizards, select "xmp->custom panel wizard"
4. xmp->publish custom panel
5. Open the .cfg file and added the path (C:\Users\<user name>\appdata\Roaming\Adobe\XMP\Custom File Info Panels\4.0\panels) where my panel has got published.
6. Ran Bridge CC, panel is there and working fine.
One more variations I did is, moved custom panel from C:\Users\<user name>\appdata\Roaming\Adobe\XMP\Custom File Info Panels\4.0\panels to C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Bridge CC (64 Bit)\Custom File Info Panels\4.0\panels (the location of the custom file info panel inside bridge).
      For you doubts I tried with flex SDK 3.3A and 3.6a both worked fine. As in forum you have written that you don't have any other sdk. If you like please go on the following links for older SDKs "http://sourceforge.net/adobe/flexsdk/wiki/Download%20Flex%203/"
-Sunil

File info window freezes

My new computer has Yosemite 10.10.3 and I'm happy to say Elements 6 works with it. But when I wanted information about a picture something happened that does not seem right.
I opened the picture and went to File / File Info. A window opened that asked for information about the picture. The problem is that as soon as I clicked anywhere int he File Info window it froze. Nothing happened. Everything else seemed to continue working but when I clicked on the picture behind the file Info window, it did not come to the front. I had to close photoshop to get rid of the file info window. Is this problem common or perhaps I'm doing something wrong?
Also, sometimes I need to know the date a picture was taken. I thought there was a way to find that from file information on the computer but I don't remember how.
Thanks for your help.
Bob

Hello A
Have you tried creating a new account and see how your apps work in that User acct? (That will tell if your problem is systemwide or limited to your User acct.)
Open System Preferences > Accounts > "+" make it an admin account.
If this works, then log back into your problem account and navigate to ~(yourHome)/Library/Preferences and trash these two files:
com.apple.finder.plist
com.apple.sidebarlists.plist
Then log out and back in again. Or restart.
(You will have to reset a few finder prefs the way you like them.)
Let us know.
-mj
[email protected]

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