MI7.0 and Netweaver Mobile 7.1

Hi all
I went through the architecture and functionalities of NW Mobile 7.1, it seems there is a huge difference from MI 7.0. I am in the process of implementing MTT 2.0 at the client. We are going with MI 7.0. MTR is a generic sync application and I am bit curious the way NW Mobile 7.1 is going to support it.
Is it adviceable to go directly with 7.1?
How difficult or easy to upgrade the MAM and MTT applications and the MI setup from 7.0 to 7.1? (smart sync & generic sync)
Is there any upgradation document available?
Thanks
Raj

Raj,
at this point in time NW Mobile 7.1 ist still in Ramp-Up. If you would like to implement xMTT 2.0 on 7.1 as of now you would either have to wait for the Ramp-Up to be finished or you would have to apply for the Ramp-Up and take part in it. Those are basically the options you have. So it's not a question of "is it advisable", it's more a question of "when does your customer want to go live" or "would they like to take part in the Ramp-Up".
xMTT 2.0 will run in the compatibility mode of NW Mobile 7.1. Since it is generic sync it is going to be straightforward to setup the system for xMTT. The application looks the same except for that there is an additional window for the compatibility mode.
NW Mobile 7.1 has a number of advantages over 7.0. Abdulla's blog is pretty accurate regarding these. The better sync is not going to make a big difference for xMTT, the new device management is a major step forward though. Especially since xMTT installations tend to be huge with ten thousands of users.
Hope this helps,
Karsten

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