Microsoft Office 2004 & Leopard OS X 10.5.6
I'm about to upgrade a couple if iMacs (PC) to Leopard and I need to know if MS Office 2004 will function with the upgrade. I'm not quite ready to spend the $ to upgrade to MS Office 2008.
Has anyone had any trouble?
It's a very "iffy" question judging by what people here report. Some have no problems, others reinstall and it works, others have continuing issues.
I suggest doing this:
Make a bootable clone from one of the machines using CCC or SuperDuper! and then upgrade the clone to Leopard and see what happens. This will test all the software and hardware and give you a very good indication of any issues you will experience. It's essentially a sandbox and it saves lots of headaches.
If you do have problems with MSOffice on the clone, you can play around with the clone and see if you can resolve the issues. If and when you are satisfied, you can move on to the real OS.
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Microsoft Office 2004 (Word) unable to save files
I have been running Office 2004 on my Intel iMac with Snow Leopard for some time and all of a sudden I cannot save a document. Word just stopped responding and I have to force quit. I can open Word and create a new document but I cannot save it. I reinstalled Word but that didn’t help. Then went to the Internet and found at least one other Mac user having the same problem which it suggests is caused by a recent Mac Security Update:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/mac/forum/macoffice2004-macword/word-2004-wil l-not-open-or-save-documents/b04eb870-9b0d-4f3b-bb47-b122301e36f6
So I check for a new Mac Security Update and sure enough there was one. I downloaded it and now Word seems to be working, as it should. I can both open and save files. The only problem remaining is that when I open Word I get the following error message “An unexpected error occurred while trying to load the Microsoft Framework library”. I contacted Apple but they were unable to help.
How can I get rid of this error message?Look, I realize you might have to get your machine working, so this is how you revert back.
Restore proceedure to pre-Security Update 2012-001 v 1.0 & v 1.1
#1 Backup your personal data off the machine.
Backup files off the computer (not to TimeMachine). If you don't have a external drive, get one and connect to the USB/Firewire port and simply drag and drop copy your User folder to the external drive, it will copy all your files. It's best to have two backups of your data off the machine when trying to restore.
Disconnect all drives now to prevent any mistakes from occuring.
#2 Reinstall OS X 10.6 from disk
Get out your 10.6 install disk and make sure it's clean and polished (very soft cloth and a bit of rubbing alcohol, no scratches) If your disk is borked, you'll have to order a new one from Apple with your serial number.
Hold c boot off the 10.6 disk (wired keyboard, internal optical drive), use Disk Utility First Aid to >Repair Disk of your internal drive (do not format or erase!!), Quit DU and simply re-install 10.6.
Note: Simply reinstalling 10.6 version from disk (without erasing the drive) only replaces 10.6.8 with 10.6.x and bundled Apple programs, won't touch your files (backup anyway) or most programs, unless they installed a kext file into OS X itself. (only a few on average do this)
#3 Update to 10.6.8 without Security Update 2012-001 v1.0 or v1.1
Reboot and log in, update to 10.6.8 via Software Update, but EXCLUDE THE Security Update 2012-001 by checkinig the details and unchecking the blue check box.
#4 Reinstall any non-working third party programs
When you reboot, make sure to reinstall any programs that require kext files installed into OS X, you'll know, they won't work when you launch them or hang for some reason as they are missing the part they installed into OS X.
If for some freakish reason you get gray screen at any time when booting (possible it might occur when you reinstall older programs), hold the shift key down while booting (Safe Mode, disables kext files) and update your installed third party software so it's compatible with 10.6.8.
https://support.apple.com/kb/TS2570
That's it really. -
Hi I've just upgraded my MacBook Pro from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion. Now my installed programs:- Quarkxpress 6.5 - Adobe creative suite CS2 - Adobe Acrobat 7.0 professional and Microsoft Office 2004 will not open - I get a banner saying not supported by power mac. Can anyone please help me I really need these programs for my work. Thank you!
hi tuggerose
i think it is bad new for you. if it's any consilation i went through the same thing when i loaded mountain lion when it first came out. i think the problem is that mountain lion is a pure 64bit operating system and the software you have is 32bit. earlier os's were able to emulate 32bit but the new system does not. the answer is new software. i did it and it cost me a load of money and much angst so your not alone. -
Microsoft Office 2004 Crashing with Leopard on Power Mac G5
I'm running Leopard 10.5.1 on a Power Mac G5 (Late 2005) Dual 2.3 GHz. I have Microsoft Office 2004 installed and it keeps crashing. And I have installed all of the available updates for Leopard and Office 2004. Is anyone else having this problem? Office 2004 is now essentially unusable because it often crashes during save or exit.
We have a similar problem.
10.5.2 Server, 10.5.2 Client, MS Office 2004 (All latest patches)
Its an intermittent problem that freezes MS Office when navigating through the "Save" Finder. It only appears to occur when trying to navigate through server folders and only affects MS office, all other apps are fine. -
Is Microsoft Office 2004 compatible with Snow Leopard?
I am just about to buy a new MacBook Pro and would like to transfer the Microsoft Office 2004 programme & all my Word/powerPoint/Excel files from my old MacBook (OS 10.4.11). One local vendor tells me MS2004 is not compatible with Snow Leopard and I have to spend c$250 to buy the Office 2008 version. Another says they are compatible and I can easily transfer. It is important to me as I need to use the Office for my work.
1.Which is correct?
2. And are there an significant advantages to the new 2008 Office version which would encourage me to upgrade and spend $250?Hi a:
Welcome to Apple discussions.
I have been running Microsoft Office 2004 for quite awhile. On my system, it runs just fine. I use both Word and Excel and it does read PowerPoint presentations.
I have read the posts on the Apple Store part of this site and have shied away from Office 2008 because of some negative feedback. Functionally, I could not see any difference from the written material. Since Office 2004 was working just fine, I did not buy the 2008 product.
Barry -
Microsoft Office 2004 and Leopard
Does anyone know if Microsoft Office 2004 will work fine on Leopard? I am currently in the process of upgrading from Panther (10.3.9) to Leopard.
MicroSoft says requirements are 10.2.8 or later, so according to their site, it will work. It shows 10.4.9 or later for Office 2008.
Hopefully someone using Leopard and Office 2004 will post so you will know for sure. -
Snow Leopard Problems with Microsoft Office 2004
I installed Snow Leopard about two months ago. Ever since I have nad problems opening Microsoft Worrd 2004. Every time I try to open Word it hangs up at "Optimizing font menu performance..." Before I installed Snow Leopard I had no problems with any Office 2004 applications. I also have a lot of problems with fonts when I open Safari.
This message occurs whenever your installed fonts change. I work for a publisher so was getting it all the time as I turned fonts on and off for different projects.
In Office 2004, do this:
1. Go to */Applications/Microsoft Office 2004/Office/Support Files/*
2. Rename or move FontCacheTool. (Requires administrator access)
In Office 2011, do this:
1. Go to *~/Library/Preferences/Microsoft/Office 2011/*
2. Delete *Office Font Cache*
3. From Terminal, type touch" then drag in the Office 2011 folder
4. Back in the Finder, do Get Info on the new, empty *Office Font Cache* file. Make it read only and lock it.
Notes:
1. WYSIWYG menus will now just show the font name in standard font.
2. You may be able to disable the 'optimising' message more easily by going to Word's preferences and turning off the 'WYSIWYG font and style menus' tick box in the General section. This takes affect in all Office applications but doesn't seem as reliable at preventing the caching problem.
4. Newly added fonts should still appear when you next start an Office application.
3. However you have Office set up, it can't see certain fonts. They are the ones logged to Console, e.g.:
12/04/2011 09:58:14 /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Frameworks/ATS.framewo rk/Support/fontd[21782] ATS Font family could not be created for Abaton ITC Std - Legacy Applications may not see this font -
TS3938 how do i uninstall microsoft office 2004 from my new macbook pro intel 5.....
When it won't allow me. I get the same popup window message. "You can't open the app...beacause PowerPC apps are no longer supported."
Can anyone help or offer advice please.
kind regards
vickynsimonvickynsimon wrote:
When it won't allow me. I get the same popup window message. "You can't open the app...beacause PowerPC apps are no longer supported."
Can anyone help or offer advice please.
kind regards
vickynsimon
Vicky: The initial question is why do you want to uninstall Microsoft Office 2004?
If your answer is that you are upgrading to Office 2011, my recollection is that the installation process of Office 2011 will do all of the proper "uninstalling" that is necessary as it installs all of the necessary new files.
If your answer is that you do not intend to ever use Office again, including any of the data files that were created from it: then at this point, I would suggest that you just leave it alone. Manually uninstalling raises more risks than it cures.
Even if you do upgrade to Office 2011, if you have continuous need to have access to your Office 2004 data files, you may find that Office 2011 does not properly translate some of your old files correctly. I have this problem with an Excel 2004 chart that I access on a weekly basis and it gets trashed by Office 2011.
I have solved this problem by installing Snow Leopard (with Rosetta) into Parallels 7 in Lion (and reinstalling Office 2004 inside the Snow Leopard environment):
[click on image to enlarge]
In this way I can access my Excel 2004 chart, modify it as needed and save the changes.
Full Snow Leopard installation instructions:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1365439 -
My Microsoft Office 2004 stopped working after upgrading to Mountain Lion. How can I get it to work again, or, how can I uninstall MT?
Office 2004 Applications Won't Work in Lion
You must have Office 2004 which is a PPC-only suite and will not work in Lion. You need to upgrade to Office 2011 - Mactopia - or you can try the freeware suite, Libre Office, that is functionally similar to Office 2007 for Windows except it works on Lion.
You may want to consider as well:
These two suites are similar to Libre Office but not as current or as well-supported:
NeoOffice
Open Office
And, then there is Apple's iWork suite:
Pages - word processing and layout
Keynote - presentation
Numbers - spreadsheet
Each can open and save Office compatible files. They may be purchased separately via the Mac App Store for $19.99 each.
(Access to the Mac App Store requires Snow Leopard 10.6.6 or higher and an Apple ID.) -
Does Microsoft office 2004 work with lion?
Does Microsoft Office 2004 work with the new Lion OS?
Ptit-Loup wrote:
Angry at Microsoft, and now angry at Apple...
Microsoft killed macros compatibility when upgrading from Excel 2004.
Apple kills OS compatibility with Office 2004 when upgrading to Lion.
I did not upgrade from Excel 2004, since I spent a lot of time and energy to develop a large number of functions using Excel macros.
I will not upgrade from Snow Leopard.
What else ?
I had the intention to change my 4-year-old 17" Macbook pro, not compatible with Lion, to a newer one. I had... There is no further reason to do that.
Apple, now loosing old supporters and customers ? Or am I getting too old ?
A 4 year old Macbook Pro should run Lion. Unless its a CoreDue and not a Core2Duo. Remember that PPC computers can not even run Snow Leopard. This was when Apple announced that support for PPC programs would be phased out. Office 2004 is almost 8 years old now. Twice as old as your computer you say needs to be replaced. I can't believe people rush in to install a new system without doing a little bit of research, and the dropping of Rosetta to run old PPC programs was well advertised if you read up on Lion, as was the introduction of Mission Control and Versions. I even read up about them, and I'm not a professional like some who come here. May pay to remember to research in future releases.
Good Luck -
I just installed the Lion operating system, basically to upgrade my iPhone. I didn't realize that my Microsoft Office 2004 application would no longer work. I have been using Word for my writing and I receive most of my emails with Word attachments. I have been using Apple products for years, always touting their reliability and customer service. I am not a techie, I just want to be able to do what I do on the computer and Apple always fulfilled my needs. Now I am told because of some operating system gobbledygook, I have to go out and purchase new software to use Word. This is despicable. I see no particular benefit to using Lion, but I do see a lot of detriments. Apple now seems to have turned into Microsoft, making software obsolete so they can make more money and to **** with the customer. You can be sure that my next computer will be a PC. I have completely lost confidence in Apple.
I seem to never tire of saying this. It was for Apple when they first announced 10.7 to disclose this. Yes, it was widely reported -- or rather, rumored -- but not by Apple. And many people who have gotten caught by this assumed that Apple itself would have told them beforehand about the loss of this very important feature which they had come to rely on. As far as I know, not even in fine print, does this appear anywhere on the Lion announcement or any of its links.
I am not saying Apple had to continue Rosetta in Lion, or forever, just that if it was going to be dropped, it should have been made known.
As relative "insiders" we should not forget that many people don't have the time, habit or interest to do this kind of research. I think it is a breach of trust that Apple has never directly made this announcement or given people the opportunity to decide beforehand if giving up their PPC apps for a new OS is a worthwhile tradeoff. -
I have Microsoft Office 2004 on my MacBook (2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo). It is currently up to date with Microsoft updates. I am running Mac OS 10.6.8. I just updated my Mac software with "Security Update 2012-001". I am now unable to print (Epson NX510 printer) from Excel or Word. When I click on the Print menu item in Excel, there is a flash in the background like it is trying to open the print window, but nothing else. I am able to print from other programs like TextEdit, Mail or KakeidaGraph. As far as I know I have the latest Epson print driver.
Also, I am also unable to open an existing Excel or Word file from the open menu - both programs lock up and do not respond. I have to force quit. After I restart Excel or Word I can open an existing file by double clicking on the file, but if I again try to open another file from the open menu, Excel or Word lock up.
Any similar problems?Howdy,
Apparently some are reporting that this causes the older PowerPC (PPC) applications that are supported in 10.6 via 'Rosetta' to crash upon attempting to open/save/print using any dialog box, or fail in other similar ways such as simply not printing or quitting, or freezing/hanging/crashing of the application.
I have read of some companies that have indeed submitted proper bug reports to Apple, but that is not a guarantee of a bug-fix being issued.
You might wish to read:
http://www.macintouch.com/readerreports/snowleopard/index.html#d02feb2012
If you are unsure if you are still using PowerPC apps, if the application is currently running, look under the 'Activity Monitior' (in Applications -> Utilities), or alternatively you could check in the System Profiler, Applications. Check the column "Type".
Here is a fairly simple way you can restore you system and restore you applications functionality again, if you don't have a recent clone or good Time Machine backup that you can restore from. If you do, restore from your backup prior to having installed the Security Update 2012-001.
Time Machine restore: http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1427
If you are restoring a backup made by a Mac to the same Mac
With your backup drive connected, start up your Mac from the Lion recovery partition (Command-R at startup) or Mac OS X v10.6 installation disc. Then use the "Restore From Time Machine Backup" utility. Select the backup prior to your issues, and it will be restored back to the state it was in at that time.
If you can't easily restore from a backup, you can instead do the following:
- You first start by reinstalling your OS X 10.6.x, this will preserve all your user data, your applications, no worries there.
- Then install the Mac OS X 10.6.8 Update Combo v1.1 (links provided below)
- Make sure you're printers are showing up correctly in your system preferences, if not, re-add the printers
- Then finally, run the Apple Software Update (by pulling down the Apple Menu), and install any and all remaining updates, except do not then re-install the Security Update 2012-001. It is possible that you may have to reboot after installing some of the updates, and you may even need to run it a 2nd time to make sure that you've got all updates, except NOT the Security Update 2012-001.
Links for 10.6.8 Update Combo v1.1:
http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1399
or the link to directly download this 1.09GB combo updater:
http://support.apple.com/downloads/DL1399/en_US/MacOSXUpdCombo10.6.8.dmg
Cheers,
Daniel Feldman
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IMac G5 no longer able to use Microsoft Office 2004
I have had Microsoft Office 2004 installed on my G5 for several years but I am not able to access any of the Microsoft applications anymore. I get the following message when trying any of the Office applications: "Microsoft (Entourage, or whatever) has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience." It provides an error report that can be sent to Microsoft which I have done several times.
I did a verify using the installed disk utility app and received the following message: "Volume bit map needs minor repair Macintosh HD" "Error: The underlying task reported failure on exit" "1 HFS volume checked" "Volume needs repair."
The installed Disk Utility doesn't allow me to click on REPAIR. I have 118 GB available. If I use the Disk Utility on the install disk will it allow me to do a REPAIR to the HD and can I mess up anything else?
Any help I can get will be appreciated. I have some important stuff on Word that I would hate to lose.
Thanks in advance for any help offered.In order for Disk Utility to work, it has to be on a differnet disk than the internal drive:
Disk Utility
1. Insert the Mac OS X Install disc that came with your computer, then restart the computer while holding the C key.
2. When your computer finishes starting up from the disc, choose Disk Utility from the Installer menu. (In Mac OS X 10.4 or later, you must select your language first.)
Important: Do not click Continue in the first screen of the Installer. If you do, you must restart from the disc again to access Disk Utility.
3. Click the First Aid tab.
4. Click the disclosure triangle to the left of the hard drive icon to display the names of your hard disk volumes and partitions.
5. Select your Mac OS X volume.
6. Click Repair. Disk Utility checks and repairs the disk.
Then reboot from your internal drive and repair permissions.
It will not mess up any of your data.
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I just upgraded my iMac to 10.6.8. Now my Microsoft office applications,(word, excel, ppt) and my camera software to transfer picts from my camera will not launch. (Separate apps but all stopped working as soon as I upgraded from 10.5.8). The software for the Canon Powershot is Ver.37.2. Image browser 6.2 EOS utility 1.1. Any help would be appreciated.
Also if you could tell me what happens to the individual jpegs that get imported through iPhoto, I would go back to using that instead of the Canon software. I want to be able to go into a folder and see all the jpegs and not have to rely on iPhoto's one enormous file. What happens if that iPhoto file gets corrupt? Thanks, LeeshaLeesha wrote:
I just upgraded my iMac to 10.6.8. Now my Microsoft office applications,(word, excel, ppt) and my camera software to transfer picts from my camera will not launch. (Separate apps but all stopped working as soon as I upgraded from 10.5.8).
Actually, Microsoft Office 2004 works fine with Snow Lepoard OS 10.6.x. However, it does require Rosetta, Apple's app for Classic apps. In your upgrade from Lepoard 10.5.8, Rosetta may not have installed but you can manually install it with the instructions here.
On another note, when upgrading the OS, some anomalies get resolved by repairing disk permissions with Disk Utility in the Utilities folder.
One more note, there was an issue with Rosetta crashing with OS 10.6.8 in February 2012. Apple released a security update that fixed it. You can see if Software Update (launch from the Apple menu) shows it or manually download Security Update 2012-001 v1.1 and install it. Software Update will also show other applicable apps available for updating for your upgraded system.
Rosetta is no longer available with OS 10.7 Lion and beyond. Then you will need to upgrade MS Office 2011 for Mac.
HTH -
Design flaw in Microsoft Office 2004 - Anyone can get it for free!
Hello all.
This is going to sound a bit strange, but I've been in the pub today giving my new MacBook owning friend a lesson in the joys of Mac goodness. One of the best things was discovering that I could use Bluetooth to beam across some of my favourite freeware application from my PowerBook to his MacBook. All small stuff, usually in the 5 - 10 megabyte range. I sent him a solitaire game, some media viewers, all the usual non-Apple things that make a Mac even more useful to run. I know, nothing strange so far, but bear with me.
My friend volunteered the question of whether Bluetooth would time out during the transfer of large files. An experiment was needed. I was also curious to find out if larger applications would beam across and still work. After all, if a 5 megabyte freeware app works when copied from my applications folder to his, would a larger piece of commercialware work as well? I mean, it shouldn't right? As a recent Mac switcher myself (5 happy months) I thought it would be appropriate to try a Microsoft application. I bought my PowerBook second-hand and I inherited a copy of MS Office that I've never used (and never will).
So here is the curious thing. I used Stuffit to compress the entire Microsoft Office 2004 folder. Minus Entourage, which I had already deleted as being surplus to requirements, the SIT file weighed in at a whopping 250 megabytes. I was very impressed to find out that it transferred across in a little over half an hour. No timeout limitation for large file transfers, Macs rock. I was however, extremely disturbed to discover the that unzipped file played perfectly well on my friend's computer. To clarify, by just copying across the entire Microsoft Office 2004 folder he was now in possession of a free, activated, and 100% working copy of the program. Surely this can't be right? I know that piracy is a major issue, and for Microsoft to just allow people to copy across the entire application means that a single copy released on a fileshareing network would be usable by an unlimited number of people potentially.
I would like to stress that I absolutely do NOT endorse piracy in any way. This was just a drunken experiment to see what would happen, and I'm reporting it here so that Microsoft and Apple can close this loophole and make sure that future versions of the application can be protected. This application retails at £350 and a simple copy and paste of the entire folder means it is available free for the pirates out there. It is not fair that some people should get for free what others have to pay a premium rate for.
My friend has deleted the copied program from his computer as neither of us wish to indulge in illegal activity. This was just an accidental discovery made during a casual "what if?" experiment. We did a search on Google (we are still in the pub as I write) and I can't find any mention of this having been found before. I hope the forum admins can bring this to the attention of someone higher up as I'm sure that it will be of great interest. It is bad enough that some people crack open applications for use by the less scrupulous out there, but this application is able to be freely copied by all and sundry. It might as well have a big "steal me" sign posted on the boxes.
Um, I'm guessing that as it is a Microsoft application that it is their mistake right? Just another reason why I am no longer running a Windows computer if this is an example of their attention to detail. It is breathtaking that some people are paying a huge amount of money for a program that can just be copied and pasted between computers.That is the way Microsoft Office 2004 works. It's a drag and drop install of the folder itself. (Although, it's usually done from the install CD, not someone else's computer.) Any missing support files (not entire applications like Entourage, though) will re-install themselves the first time an Office application is launched. This is how Microsoft designed it, so it would be simple to install and self-repairing. The registration information is saved, somewhere, inside that folder.
If you wanted to alert someone, you should probably tell someone at Microsoft.
-Doug
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