Midi loops sound great in preview - but completely different in track

I'm running Garageband 08 and have installed all the additional jam packs I purchased while using Garageband 2.
When previewing a loop in the browser - it sounds as it should, but when I drag it to create a new track, the sound/instrument changes completely.
I've checked the track settings and tried changing instruments, but the sound is never the instrument I choose. This is basically rendering Garageband useless for me and I'm wondering if I should go back to Garageband 2.
Any ideas as to what can be causing this? And how can I fix it.
Thanks

I've cleared the preferences and repaired the permissions and still nothing.
Is there no way to repair the instrument library without reinstall?
does anyone have a clue as to why this has happened? - I am surprised I haven't seen this as a major issue.
Thanks to all and any who can help.

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